IFH 649: First-Time Filmmaking, Oscars & Netflix with Scott Copper

Scott Copper (Director, Screenwriter, Producer) made his feature film directorial debut in 2009 with Fox Searchlight’s Oscar-winning CRAZY HEART, which he also wrote and produced. The film, which starred Jeff Bridges, Maggie Gyllenhaal, Colin Farrell and Robert Duvall, earned three Academy Award nominations, winning for Best Actor (Bridges) and Best Original Song (T Bone Burnett and Ryan Bingham). Cooper won an Independent Spirit Award for Best First Feature and earned WGA, USC Scripter and Independent Spirit Award nominations, for his screenplay.

Cooper’s follow-up was the Leonardo DiCaprio/Ridley Scott-produced OUT OF THE FURNACE, starring Christian Bale, Woody Harrelson, Casey Affleck, Zoë Saldana, Forest Whitaker and Sam Shepard. For his work as writer, director and producer, Cooper won the Best Debut and Second Film Award at the 2013 Rome Film Festival, where he was also nominated for a Golden Marc’Aurelio Award. Next was Cooper’s 2015 Warner Bros. gangster film BLACK MASS, which Cooper both directed and produced and which made its worldwide debut at the Venice International Film Festival.

The box-office hit garnered wins from critics associations across the country, and earned lead actor Johnny Depp the Desert Palm Achievement Award at the Palm Springs International Film Festival, as well as a Best Actor nomination from the Screen Actors Guild. In 2017, Cooper’s western epic HOSTILES debuted at both the Telluride Film Festival and Toronto International Film Festivals, earning widespread critical acclaim. The film reunited Cooper with his OUT OF THE FURNACE star Christian Bale and featured performances from Rosamund Pike, Wes Studi, Jesse Plemons, Rory Cochrane and Ben Foster. Cooper followed this up with ANTLERS, an exploration of yet another genre in the Guillermo Del Toro-produced horror film. Searchlight released the film to acclaim in October 2021.

Most recently, Cooper re-teamed for the third time with Bale on THE PALE BLUE EYE, an adaptation of Louis Bayard’s novel of the same name. The film tells the story of a series of murders at the United States Military Academy at West Point in 1830 and a cadet the world would later come to know as Edgar Allan Poe. Robert Duvall, Gillian Anderson, Timothy Spall, Toby Jones and Harry Melling round out the cast. The Netflix film will debut in Fall of 2022. Born in Virginia, Cooper now resides in Los Angeles.

Please enjoy my conversation with Scott Copper.

Scott Copper 0:00
I mean, even when you work with trusted collaborators, there will be moments on set where there is Sturm and Drang as the director, and as the writer and as the producer, you have to be able to solve those issues.

Alex Ferrari 0:12
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Scott Copper 0:26
Great. Thank you, Alex.

Alex Ferrari 0:28
Thanks for coming on the show. Man. I'm a fan man. I've been a fan for a while. Man. You you're doing some really good work, brother seriously, man.

Scott Copper 0:35
Thank you. Thanks. So upper and tougher.

Alex Ferrari 0:38
It's man, I I was just talking, I was just talking to somebody a few minutes ago about how the movie business is changing so dramatically, even from when you made Crazy Heart to now getting somebody to the movie theater. If avatar is having a problem. I mean, is a problem? You know,

Scott Copper 1:01
I suspect people go out for that though.

Alex Ferrari 1:04
I did. And I saw it. It's one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen in my life. Like what Jim Jim did was, ya know, it's remarkable, but it's doing well. But people are like, Oh, I should be doing better. And there's a lot of pressure on a movie like that. But other than avatar in Top Gun last year. It's tough to get people out.

Scott Copper 1:24
Man. Yeah, well, in fact, maybe that was happening also a little bit before COVID Certainly accelerated during COVID. Look, it's expensive to consider dinner and parking and then price of a movie, maybe for the kind of movies that I make. And some of my favorite filmmakers, perhaps the ticket prices should be lower. And then right will be more likely to come out because there really is nothing like experiencing. And in fact, that film will not have the same effect on you, regardless of what it is if you're watching it anywhere. But in this.

Alex Ferrari 2:05
There's no There's no question my friend. But But you've lived a very interesting life in the film industry. You've you've you came up as an actor. So my first question, how did you and why did you want to get into this insanity that is the film industry?

Scott Copper 2:19
Well, look, it's you don't choose your obsessions, your obsession, you choose you right very much. I also spent, I was born and spent a lot of my formative years in this kind of artistic crown jewel of Virginia called Abingdon, Virginia, where the State Theatre is also a lot of great music comes out of that, that region, the mountain empire, as well as a lot of arts and crafts. So the arts were always a part of my life. My father would take me to see films at a young age at a local college. And then you know, when you're young, and you're transfixed by that, and you also had spent time as an actor, Christian Bale and I had discussed this, that people who get into the film business aren't meant to have office jobs. And I think I realized that at a young age, I also realized at a young age that there were actors who were a whole lot better at this vocation than I, especially when you're on the other side of the camera and your first film is your you're recording Jeff Bridges for posterity and Robert Duvall and Maggie Gyllenhaal and Colin Farrell, that quickly makes you realize that there are people who do it a whole lot better than you. And then my second film was Christian Bale and Casey Affleck and Woody, Willem Defoe and Sam Shepard and, and Forrest Whitaker and Zoey Sadat. And then I'm like, Okay, well, I'm definitely not gonna be an actor again. So, but quite honestly, Alex, this is I mean, I couldn't imagine a better job than being a film writer, a film director. I mean, I suppose being Mick Jagger, or Bano, Eddie Federer, someone who's a rock star, right and sings to at 100,000 people, certain events. But I love being able to express myself as a filmmaker. I love the people that I've met over the course of my career. I mean, look, I've been for an actor with an unremarkable career, I have been incredibly fortunate as a filmmaker, I'll just say that.

Alex Ferrari 4:31
You know, it's interesting, because a lot of people like, you know, everyone could play basketball. You know, generally everyone could take a ball and try to make a shot, but we're not all Michael Jordan or LeBron James. And, and that's, I think that's where you were at?

Scott Copper 4:44
Well, sure. I mean, even Robert Duvall, who was my mentor and expressed to me and still does how much he liked me as an actor Jeff Bridges the same thing but but I just have much more fun doing this and and I never even really had A chance to grow as an actor, I wasn't getting the kind of challenging parts that, that I now write for actors and I adore actors. And performance is critical to me and, and, and working with actors that I've always admired. And, you know, also being able to work with actors that teach me something, as Jeff certainly has, or Robert ball or Christian. Or even Johnny Depp. So I'm blessed man i But that's, that's just the truth.

Alex Ferrari 5:36
So at what point? Because I'm assuming as you were going down the path as an actor, there might have been some rejection not much, I'm sure but some rejection all

Scott Copper 5:45
The actor who isn't? Who isn't rejected a lot. Right. So I'll look at started 12 I mean, so yeah,

Alex Ferrari 5:53
He had he had a good start. That's Little Spielberg independent film thing. He did. Yeah. But so when you're going so when you're going through the the acting process, at what point did you say, you know, what, I'm not going to hit the all star team as an actor, I want to jump to the other side of the like, what was the point where you just said, I'm

Scott Copper 6:14
I was just auditioning a lot, and you know, kind of becoming a bridesmaid coming in second. And, and, and not getting the parts that made me want to become an actor in the first place. I think everybody who's you know, a young actor coming up in the 90s, one, you know, a career or at least I did, like Sean Penn or dinero, or PacMan or Pacino. So, when you're not getting those parts, and you're going up for leading men, and you're not really loving them, but you have to support yourself. It just, ultimately, the rejection, that's a lot. And I mean, look, we all get rejected, certainly in the arts, sure, when you make things that, that take big risks, for sure. But it was really just the continual process of of auditioning and films that I would have liked to have been in not getting parts in them. Whether it would be thin red line or Saving Private Ryan. And then I was doing a Western with Duvall being directed by the great Walter Hill, who's also a mentor of mine. And, and and you've all said, you know, you should really write something. And of course, I ended up at the time I had spending a lot of time considering writing the film about Merle Haggard. He had too many ex wives getting the rights were difficult. So I ended up writing precis Hart and Duvall was the first person to read it. And, and you know, Alex, the truth is when Jeff Bridges says yes to your film, it changes your life. And that's exactly what happened to me.

Alex Ferrari 7:52
So is that how you got? Because I was gonna ask like, you're basically a first time filmmaker at this point. Yeah, you've been on set for a long time. But you're a first time writer.

Scott Copper 8:00
That's right. never directed a film. I've never directed a commercial. I've never directed a high school play. But I know this world. And I know that by surrounding myself with great collaborators, production designers, customers, cameraman, women, that sort of thing that I knew that I can tell the story. And Jeff, I remember it is is though it were yesterday, Jeff said, so this is your first time. Yeah. So it is. He said, Well, I've had a lot of success with first time directors, Fabulous Baker Boys being one of them. That I'm in. And you know, Alex, at that point in my life was never the same.

Alex Ferrari 8:40
And so I have to ask you, first day on set, you're sitting, you're the big man on your big man on campus first day? How do you deal with not only the pressure of the first day and making sure that you make that first day, but you're looking through the lens? And you see Jeff Bridges? They're like, and you're directing a legend? Multiple legends, by the way in that film? How do you deal with that as a director?

Scott Copper 9:07
Well, you deal with it by forgetting to call cut. And my ad cabinet shows looking at me as the scene had finished. And I'm transcendent, this is the truth and I'm transfixed and, and she looked at me, she said, and I said, Cut. And literally, it was like, my god, I remember that night that Jeff Bridges is taking dialogue that I have written in taking it to places that I never expected. And that's especially because I've written specifically for him. That's the sign of a great actor. And now, five films later it's happened in, in every film, thankfully.

Alex Ferrari 9:46
So the one thing that's so impressive about your work not only the writing and the directing, but the cast that you're able to attract is honestly unheard of. I mean, your second film, that list of actors, any one of them could have been the star. But a lot of them took secondary roles because they wanted to work on the project. How do you attract all of these? I mean, it's film after film after film after film. As I'm going through filmography, I'm just like, how the hell is this guy grabbing, I know it's the material. But like, even good material doesn't attract a lot of times because of politics and schedules. And this or that.

Scott Copper 10:23
And often that is that is the case, it's difficult to get all the actors that you're referring to everybody else wants, and trying to fit them into a schedule is often one of the most difficult things to do about making a film. But I think, look, certainly the success of of of Crazy Heart has helped when when you're filming, your first film is nominated for three Oscars of wins a couple. That certainly changes the calculus for everybody else, when they see how wonderful Jeff is Maggie and Colin and Duvall, and on and on and on, right. So that probably doesn't happen if that film doesn't have the success, but it did. And then out of the furnace had kind of like a murderer's row of actors that all of whom are, you know, considered to be favorites of mine. So I think once those two films were made, I think actors felt like you know what he, I can feel safe with Scott, because that's the key is to really make an actor feel very safe, safe to take big risks, knows that I'm going to protect them not only on the day when we're shooting, but also in the cutting room. I think the actors that we're talking about know that I'm more interested in films that push me into an uncomfortable space, I've spoken to all of them about the great danger is really doing safe work, where all of the edges are sanded off, so that a lot of people will like your film, The Academy or people who are voting bodies, right. And I think they realize that those don't, those concerns don't really concern me. So it's all about telling a very honest story, a very authentic story. And a story that's not afraid to not let the audience off the hook. I think striving for consensus is not something that I tend to do. I don't make films out of fear, and certain actors respond to that.

Alex Ferrari 12:32
And so another thing about working with all of these amazing actors is I know that all of them have very different processes. So as a director, I mean, as a director, how do you handle like when you have, you know, four or five different of these actors in, in a scene? You can't just yell out direction, you got to kind of go,

Scott Copper 12:52
I've never do that I own two actors that nobody hears, but the actor, I'm actually exactly mixer has turned off all mics and nobody on set will hear the direction that I give Sam Shepard, right? Where Robert Duvall, Christian whomever it is, I think, why don't think I know you have to be very specific, with actors. Don't talk in the abstract. It's really about who is your character? What does the character want the scene? What's the subtext? And again, make them feel safe, safe and free to take big risks. And every actor comes at a scene differently. Casey Affleck and Willem Defoe couldn't be more dissimilar in terms of styles. You have to on the day balance those styles to make sure that all ideas are welcome. But that we're all trying to serve the theme of the film. And what's the subtext of a theme. And then when you cast people, Willem Defoe has made that around probably 100 films or Christian who's made 50 Evolve is made 100 I mean, it's like, and I've said this before, it's almost as though you're like a jockey at the route. Imagine wanting to be at the Kentucky Derby, you're on the best. And it's a little bit of guidance here, a little bit of guidance, they're showing the whip, you know, and then let them run rest of the work. I mean, that's the key is like not getting in their way. And helping an ice ball would always say to me, the key to being a successful director of performances, which is what I hope I am, is knowing how to help an actor when he or she is in trouble.

Alex Ferrari 14:29
Now with crazy heart you I mean, again, you very rare example of your first film being nominated for three Oscars. It doesn't happen quite very often. How did you

Scott Copper 14:42
I gotta be honest

Alex Ferrari 14:43
Yeah, I that was my question. How did you handle the print not only the pressure, the accolades the year, the greatest the ego trips, being in the center of that hurricane and then after winning, you know, the film winning a few a couple Oscars, and how the town entreated you because Hollywood's a dangerous place. And, and but you already been in town a bit as an actor. So you've seen a few things that I'm Oh yeah. So how did you deal with it man?

Scott Copper 15:13
Well, by making a film that was the complete polar opposite, which was out of the furnace, which, you know, I hope to make as an L.A giant crime film. Right, that would remind me of smaller version of The Deer Hunter, right? And you feel like, okay, well, you're definitely not going to sand off the edges. You're not going to strive for consensus, you're gonna make a film that is as hard hitting as the people experience who actually live there. Right. And fortunately, that's where Christian and I met in Braddock, Pennsylvania Mayor John Fetterman, who's now the senator from Pennsylvania. Right. And I know how tough it was to live in a place like that probably still is in Braddock. So if you're being authentic to tell him the story, that's really the key. And you don't worry about what others will say. You know, worried about what category voters will say you don't worry about what critics say because if you look at most of Stanley Kubrick's films, they were not well received when they first came out.

Alex Ferrari 16:18
All of them almost I think all of them unanimously were not well received.

Scott Copper 16:21
And time is what settles the score. Right? So often, you see movies that go on to win Oscars and receive a claim and you watch them 234 years later, if not sooner, you've and you realize that they don't really hold up right so if you're if you're playing and these actors that I work with know that you're playing for the long game. And really what what means something to me is that when I hear from people who are also filmmakers who have responded to me whether it's Bogdanovich with crazy horror, whether it was Michael Cimino calling me or William freaking after seeing out of the furnace, you know, Michael Mann, who was has been very kind to me, Mike Nichols, like all of these people that I admired, really reached out to you after seeing your films and, and continued to applaud you and continue to push.

Alex Ferrari 17:14
How do you as I mean, as a filmmaker, there's so many traps with that, because you know, when you're getting you're, you're basically the people you admire calling you telling you that you're great. And to keep going. The ego has to fall into how do you keep that in place? Because that's a problem when you have so much

Scott Copper 17:33
Yeah, of course, yes. And you have to, of course, my wife would disagree with saying that I feel like I have no ego she

Alex Ferrari 17:42
Wives do that.

Scott Copper 17:43
Yes. But ultimately, it's really about serving the story about telling the stories that that you want to tell. And you and Alex, what you try to do is, is try to keep ego out of any decisions that you make. Which is often very difficult for artists to do, whether you're a painter or whether you're physician, whether you're a filmmaker, Jeff Bridges, said to me, I don't care what happens to a movie when it comes out in terms of winning awards that the reward is, is in the journey for him. And it's the experience and the more movies that I make. That's the truth. It's when you and a group of gifted collaborators are, are all striving for the same goal. And I think that's really important. I think, also, I have tended to try to figure out how the how to tell the truth about how tragic and unfair life is without losing hope. You know, most narratives lie to the audience about how life works out. And shocking. Yes, and

Alex Ferrari 18:53
Hollywood does that. No, you're kidding me?

Scott Copper 18:57
Yes. So that's our bread and butter. It is yeah. So for me really, it's it's about, you know, working through the difficulties in my life by dressing them through art.

Alex Ferrari 19:09
Fair enough. Fair enough. Now, the one thing that's not spoken a lot about in, in the filmmaking space, especially in the film, schools, and for young filmmakers coming up, is the politics of the set. As a first time director, you know, you have collaborators who you might have chosen wrong, you know, incorrectly that you didn't align with what you want it or or try to enforce their vision on top of the director. Have you dealt with any of that? And if you have, how did you overcome it?

Scott Copper 19:37
No, frankly, I haven't. Because I didn't think so having gone to film school, actually, all six of my films have been incredibly harmonious. Now I work with the same crew largely over and over because we have a shorthand, and you know, my films are not inexpensive and every moment counts. And every minute is, you know, you can just hear the dollar sign I think it was Kubrick again who, who said that actually, prepping is much easier editing, you're much more relaxed. But when you're shooting, it's like you're in this cauldron of fire because you have to make so many decisions every day. And you're dealing with production designers, actors, cameramen, and women sound. Everything is coming together at once. So the key is, how do you hire people that see the world as you do, who will make push you to become a better filmmaker, because I didn't go to film school and all of my film school is reading as much as I can about film directors, watching their movies over and over and over with the sound off, how do they move the camera. Most importantly, when they don't move it, how they use composition and missile scene and lighting, staging, to help tell the story. And which is more and more difficult because we're living in the most impatient of ages. Because of this, right? And because we're getting instant, in social media, we're getting instant gratification constantly, and that we were no longer patient. We have to you have to really resist that when you're making a film. Because if you were to put an audience today in front of 2001 I knew what that was. Barry Lyndon The Godfather even and it never heard of these actors have seen it, people would find it painfully slow, boring. And if they were watching home, they would turn it off. Not everybody but a lot of people. And you have to resist that. You have to say okay, well, this is the story I'm telling you, you might find it to be a slow burn. But I said this before making you know, experiencing a film in a cinema is not like getting an enema. You don't want to have wanted to get over as fast as possible. luxuriate in Stanley Kubrick's world, or in Jane Campion's world, or countless other filmmakers that have inspired me for years. Right? That's the key. So. So it's really about trying to assure an ego, hire people that see the world as you do know their work incredibly well. Take meetings with them. And then you will just learn to push one another. I mean, even when you work with trusted collaborators, there will be moments on set where there is Sturm and Drang as the director, and as the writer and as the producer, you have to be able to solve those issues, you also have to be open, and realize that all ideas are welcome. And that is the key, you can't only just say it's my way, you have to very strong vision. But it's clear that there are people that you hire, who will bring ideas to make you not only a better filmmaker, that makes the film better.

Alex Ferrari 22:46
Now, how do you approach the writing process? Because your your, your, your work is so character driven? How do you how do you just deal with the writing process?

Scott Copper 22:57
Quite quite frankly, and and I work very long stretches from early in the morning, through lunch, take a break, and then get back at it because I do kind of what Coppola did, which is like this vomit draft, where you don't go back and edit. You literally write the story from page one to page 120 or however long it is without going back to edit and reading it it very often will be terrible to see if if this is a story that you would want to race out to see on Friday night. That's my litmus test. And before I became a writer, I would study Robert towns work I would study free King's work I would study the network perish is the whoever. And I would I would try to understand these are all people who write characters. How is it that they're telling the story largely through subtext. And they're telling it visually, they're telling it with spare dialogue? All these sorts of things that you just keep writing, writing is rewriting and and eventually you come to a place where we feel like you can share a screenplay with Robert Duvall, who's the first one to to read crazy art or now, the person who reads all my scripts, whether he's in them or not, is Christian Bale. Right. Christian has been making films since he's 12. He'll tell you if a story of a character is working quickly. And it's great to have and I'm very fortunate to have those kinds of trusted collaborators who read my things, and help guide me because so often, and even in the editorial process, you get very Snowblind it's snowballing and you can't quite see think things are great. But then there are other people who will come in and say this didn't quite land for me. This isn't working. This is overstated. This is understated. So all of those sorts of things. I'm just getting a text from my pal Casey Affleck right now speaking. So Alex, that's really hitman. It's about how do you use other people's ideas? Look at I mean, I can't say enough to young filmmakers read great screenplays. see not only what a writer is trying to express, but what they aren't. So much is left to the unspoken, that will make a real connection with the audience. And I tell people all the time, first time filmmakers tell the truth. write stories that are close to you that you know, and personalize everything. Because then if you do, your theme will become universal. And it will speak to most everybody because we're all suffering, right? And we all if you if you deign to make the kind of films that I do, you want to move people, or you want to challenge people, a great filmmaker who shall remain unnamed, once said to me, and this guy's one of the greats. He said, Scott, if everybody likes you film, it's likely not very good.

Alex Ferrari 25:57
Very true. Now do you outline at all

Scott Copper 26:02
If I'm adapting something, if I'm writing an original, it's funny because I use Kubrick again, because I've read everything he's ever said, Oh, me to my friend to me to all of his interviews. And he would never direct an original screenplay always has to be based on existing material, because he says you can sit down in one city and tell this is a story that I want to tell. This is what I want to spend the next five years of my life. Outlining can be really quite helpful. If there's existing, the pale blue i Very sprawling novel, more characters that I could, that I could or should explore on a two hour timeframe different if you're making a limited series. Something that's longer, more sprawling, you should certainly outline but original screenplay. It helps it helps to give you guideposts as you're writing for sure. But certainly, if you're adapting something, and it's really all about finding the essence of the novel, or nonfiction pieces, or magazine, or whatever it is you're adapting podcast. And then it helps to outline that for sure. But there's also something very freeing about not knowing where narrative is going. You have a kernel of an idea, like out of the furnace and off I went in and just wrote, and I was doing press for crazy hard. I was in Pittsburgh, drove over to Braddock, Pennsylvania, wrote very specifically for all of these locations, took images. Out of that came the narrative. So I do both. I've just just adapted something that I hope to make certainly my next film or a film after that. And I didn't outline, I'd read the novel four or five times William Goldman, but certainly once he realized he was going to read something and read it two or three times, did I like it the second time as much as the first, what are the themes? Who are the characters that I'm going to exercise, who the characters I'm going to focus on. That's, that's the piece that I just that I've just adapted with that. When you have someone who's given you a great piece of source material, like for instance, those by art in the pale blue eye, you can take that. And if the author knows and understands that a film is very different than a book, you could just use a sea and off you go. So it really is is project continue whether I outline or not. I don't do always.

Alex Ferrari 28:42
Now, as directors, there's always that day on set where we feel like the entire world's coming crashing down around you the sun's every day there is that but there's that one day that's like, oh, I don't think we're going to make it that day that you like holy cow. What was that day on any of your projects? And how did you overcome it?

Scott Copper 29:00
Well, you never have enough time. Honestly, even though you've got and I've got 55 days to shoot this Jesus, I had 24 for crazy heart. Every day by the time you're finished up, you know, there are no easy days on a film set. One of them of course is is if you have to vacate a location because it's a restaurant that you've rented or someone's house and they're ready to move back in. Or it can be because you have monsoon rains coming and that would have been in hostiles where I was shooting the sequence towards the end of the film where Rory Cocker this character before he before he meets his maker and it's pouring rain and it's I think it's probably 38 degrees. It's going to be snowing later. Rory is dressed only in a very thin shirt, but we hadn't quite gotten the scene but I could tell that he was. He was very affected by the weather and was starting to become hypothermic. I'm not a doctor, I'm supposing I can see how it was affecting him. In these monsoon rains up in the Continental Divide, you just can't control but it was giving me everything that I wanted in the scene. So you're trying to balance somebody's help with also trying to know that you have to vacate a location, vacate a location and trying to balance the scene but and I would go to Rory and say, Listen, I think we have this. But I'm also very concerned that you are experiencing something now that you shouldn't be. No, Scott, I haven't quite gotten it is what Rory would say, we're going to keep pushing. And then you're sitting behind the monitor next to the lens and you're thinking okay, man, I've got to stop him because he'll keep going until it until he falls down. Because he's that kind of actor he's so great, Rory, great actors I've worked with. So seems like that really pressure you or when the monsoon rains and rattlesnakes have come out of the ground, they're everywhere, but you're still shooting, you know, those sorts of things. So it's all about really balancing. And you know, if you're 810 1000 feet above sea level, and oxygen very difficult for people, it's always trying to balance those sort of things, or shooting the pale blue eye and and it's eight below zero. And those are long days. And you want to make certain that the crew are well taken care of. But if you're the writer, director, producer, and you're in a location, and you're focused on that, and then but you're also concerned about the crews. Well being you know, those are things that you really have to juggle as a filmmaker they certainly don't teach you in film school having gone to film school, I don't know for sure, but I suspect they don't rattlesnake. Elevation,

Alex Ferrari 31:57
I missed the rattlesnake. Bears bronze class. When I went at least it wasn't there. It wasn't in the curriculum. I went I went.

Scott Copper 32:08
Right. Maybe there should be a class on.

Alex Ferrari 32:10
I mean, if someone's listening at USC USC film school should have that exactly. Now, I've talked to so many writers that when they are when they're writing, and it happens, it's happened to me, it happens to every writer, I think, is when you're writing you, you're almost channeling, you're almost like it's something flowing through you to what point to the point where after you're done, you look at and you go, Holy crap, who wrote this, this is good,

Scott Copper 32:41
Almost every time. And quite frankly, it comes from a very deep, subconscious place. I mean, you're very conscious as you're writing it. But you're not questioning that my wife asked me that all the time when she when she reads something. She's like Jesus, where'd this come from, and you can't quite really understand it. And, and quite frankly, the more films you make, and the more experienced you become known as a film director, but as a film writer, the more difficult it gets about saying less, and not over imparting to the audience, and trying to give them enough information to keep them satisfied, but not too much information. And that's where you become more conscious about it. But generally, if you're writing, if you're in that flow, and that stream of consciousness, and it's coming from a place, don't question it, and don't stop

Alex Ferrari 33:30
So it seems like it's, you know, we could call it the other side, the ether, wherever ideas come from ethics, Spielberg talked about it. And I think Prince and Michael Jackson talked about it as well, like where ideas come from. And I think Spielberg said it in an interview where he's like, if an idea comes to me, I know that if I don't act on it, in a week or two, I'll hear that Marty got it, or someone else got it, because the idea needs to be birthed into the world. And they chose you first. But if you don't move, they'll move on to the next one.

Scott Copper 34:02
Look at those are three geniuses that you just mentioned. So I wouldn't question any of that, but I think he's probably right. And I try not to I try not to question anything, honestly, in terms of where it comes from, because when you make the kind of films that that I make you you have to understand that no two people see the same film. Right. And which is why I think it's so frankly, absurd to rank art as we do in America. What's the best, you know? Who do you Who do you think's a better painter Cy Twombly or Jackson Pollock? You're gonna have very responses, right from a number of people when you present them with that. Are those better Meyer miles or Coltrane? Right? Those were things in the fact that we that we rank are something that are a whole nother discussion. Keep out. But you can't really be concerned with any of that when you are making a film, or when you're. So these come from don't know, how are people going to receive this?

Alex Ferrari 35:13
Oh, God, no, you can't think that. No, you have to just let it come out. And, and that's where I think a lot of writers

Scott Copper 35:20
Will be generic and easily forgotten.

Alex Ferrari 35:24
One thing I've noticed with your work is, it seems that there hasn't been a drop off. Meaning that the level that you were able to set the bar, you were able to sit with Crazy Heart, you've been able to keep that film after film, on the level of the writing and the directing, because to be honest, and I know you know this as well, there are directors who pop, but then they overthink or they and then you could start seeing it in their work, their work starts to drop off, unfortunately. Do you think when you wrote crazy heart where you were basically, there was no pressure to recreate the heart? Oh, no, no, that nobody? No, no. So it was such a freeing experience that you let go? Yes. Do you? Are you able to continuously do that with your work? Or do you start to get in your own way and stop that flow sometimes from happening?

Scott Copper 36:13
Well, both only because my work explores the darker corners of the human psyche. And since crazy heart have gotten progressively darker, although pale blue eyes, certainly it's not that I mean, that's much more accessible. So you try to guard against that, only because you know that your films affect people in ways and I've been to countless screenings over the last six movies, where people have come out of my films as though they were just, you know, festivals, screenings, because they were just hit by a two by four. And you can tell that they were deeply moved or deeply angered, or upset. Whatever it is. So you're sometimes mindful of that, like, you know, and I never tried to make the same film twice, you make it music film, you make a gangster movie, a Western for our family, hard trauma with antlers. And now this. So I never tried to repeat myself, but I also never let the audience off the hook. And that is something that you sometimes have to be reminded, because look we want I mean, movies are an expensive endeavor, and their investment want their movies at least to break even. But they want to make money. You know, it's cliche as it is it is show business and not show art. So I've been lucky to make the kind of films that I make. And quite frankly, I think actors and other directors, whether they're my contemporaries, or people that I have long, long admired became a filmmaker, because of them, have embraced my work in ways that the public just isn't aware of. And that really keeps you going. Walter Hill, got an email from Walter today, telling me how much that he loved pale blue eye. And what he thinks is my same reason I bring it up because you just mentioned it, and how he's seen my career ascend. And if you know, I think people are thankful when directors really, really respect the audience, and want to give them something that's challenging and something that's different, and most importantly, something that, and I do believe this will stand the test of time.

Alex Ferrari 38:31
Let me I gotta ask you this question. Because I mean, we you and I are both of the generation that remembers all those great filmmakers. You talked about all those great movies, from the 70s in the 60s in the in the 80s. And I feel like those kinds of filmmakers and to be honest filmmakers, like yourself aren't dangered species right now. Because of what's happening in the in the business. There's, it's, it's just getting crazier and crazier. And if it wasn't for people like Netflix, you know, a pale blue eye, which is your new movie. That's not getting a theatrical release today. That's not being made today. It just wouldn't get made unless it was with a streamer who wants to do that kind of work. Because the studios, honestly, if Scorsese is having a problem getting his films made, and he has to go to netflix. We're all in trouble.

Scott Copper 39:28
So we'll make it his new film.

Alex Ferrari 39:30
Right, exactly. So what do you think about the future of where we're going? Because as a film lover, I'm seeing I'm seeing a problem, the new generation coming up. It's,

Scott Copper 39:41
I mean, Christian and I just spoke about it today. Because the pale blue eyes debut on Netflix, it's been in theaters for the last two weeks. I mean, I'm eternally grateful that Netflix have allowed this film should people want to see it in the big screen experience to debut in the top markets. All over the world, you got two weeks to see it in a theater, if you want to see that. And should you want to wait until it comes to your house, which is what most people will do to your home theater. That's how the majority of people will see my film, then that's how they're gonna see. I am eternally grateful that Netflix, Apple, Amazon are making films that the legacy studios no longer want to make, because those are the films that that the reason I became a filmmaker, and the movies that still excite me, I mean, I've been asked to do major superhero films, or the kind of films that that guarantee an audience have been offered as many times and have as of yet elected not to do them because I want to tell these stories. Stories that make me want to race out to see a film on Friday night. It's getting tougher and tougher. Because if you look at this fall, and some of my pals their films, that debuted in cinemas just no one came to see them. And these are excellent films, and made them with the highest craftsmanship in great performances. And it's a bit terrifying, and we're heading into potentially strike here. we potentially could be facing the facing, you know, economic headwinds. So all of these things make it more difficult for people to get their films made. Certainly more difficult than than it does for Scorsese. Or, or, or your those Landmaster, myself, whoever are making, you know, challenging adult dramas. But still, it's never easy. And I fear that people until we're really beyond COVID, which we certainly are not. I think an older audience won't come back. And I think ticket price is probably going to have to come down to entice people to come back to the cinemas. But I can assure you because you look around the world are such great cinema being made. And those are the films that I most respond to, quite frankly, international filmmakers who've inspired me a great deal over the last 1520 years. They're still getting their films made. Their their home, countries sometimes help subsidize them, which we don't quite have here. It is getting tougher, but then every year movies come out you think okay, great. This is why we love cinema. It's just just getting harder and harder. Alex and James Rockwell any filmmaker, you should make the film you're about to make is though it's your last.

Alex Ferrari 42:58
Yeah, and it's good. You know, a lot of times, well, first of all, I think what you said about foreign films, we're getting access to them so much easier now because of streaming services. They're just coming in, and something like parasite winning the Oscar and things like that, that would have never happened. No, 1020 years ago, we just wouldn't have happened. So that's a good, those are good signs. But the younger generation of filmmakers coming up because I teach these filmmakers I they listen to me all the time. And, and they watch the show. And it's I see them at festivals, and I see them at events and I talk to them and it's just it's so much harder now to get stuff off the ground than it was before and especially to tell the kind of challenging stories that you're telling. And I mean, any of Kubrick's films, any of them tried to release them today. Oh, any Kubrick film today release it. It's not it's not even possible. You can you imagine the Clockwork Orange, I watched the other day, just the first. The first 20 minutes of that. I'm like, you can't release that today. It's just not in today's environment. You can't release a film like that. Or a taxi driver?

Scott Copper 44:10
No. Are you kidding? Are students dispirited from from following their passions? Or do they you know, it's gonna be a tougher road to hoe?

Alex Ferrari 44:21
Well, this is the thing, man, I think that filmmakers, the younger film generation coming up, are still stuck. A lot of times in the glory days, which in many ways for our generation was the 90s, which was the independent film movement, the Sundance movement where and I've spoken to a lot of these filmmakers, you know, the Ed Burns and the Robert Rodriguez and the Tarantino is these guys that there were legendary stories of what happened in the 90s. And they're stuck into that world that like think that that's the path and I keep yelling from the top of the mountain. This is not the way anymore but you can't. I talked to Ed burns about Brothers McMullen. That movie wouldn't make it De Klerk wouldn't make it today. El Mariachi wouldn't make it today. Slacker wouldn't make it today. It's there and they think that that's the path. So then I have to kind of break that illusion a bit. And then they go, Well, what do I do? And I go you that the game is so different now. And it's so much easier to make a film. But it's so much harder to get it seen. Because when we were coming up, it was impossible to make a film cos you needed 35 You need 16 If you were lucky, and then you had to really understand technology, you really need to understand lighting now anyone can make it I had Shaun Baker on a few a couple times on my show it what did he did with tangerine with the iPhone and and cameras are so cheap and things look so good

Scott Copper 45:45
Sean's doing it the right way.

Alex Ferrari 45:47
No, Sean is amazing. And he's, you know, Red Rocket, I love red rocket. I saw I saw that in the theater shot that 16 It was great. But that but that it's I think people are starting to get disheartened a bit. And I think what we're our generation looked into the 90s, let's say for for hope. And and of course, obviously the 70s and the 80s. And the 60s and the great filmmakers and the legends. We were we kind of like if you remember when that when everybody wanted to grow up to be a rock star, right. Then, in the 90s, everybody wanted to grow up to be a director, because Quinton made it so cool. And Robert made it so cool. And it was just like everybody. Yeah, so Soderbergh everybody was so cool to be a director. Now, the younger generation didn't, they want to be content creators. They want to be YouTubers to tell their stories, and they're able to monetize they're much faster than they could with film. And then don't get me started about film distribution, which is a whole other world that I've deep into as far independent film distribution. So it's such a difficult, it's so hard, man, at certain levels. Yeah, you're gonna get the rank Googlers that come out of film school and, and make some great films and your film like crazy are these but these are anomalies. I mean, your story is an anomaly, right? So I don't know, I don't know where this conversation is going. But I just love to hear your thoughts on where you think from your point of view.

Scott Copper 47:09
Well, now you might want to crawl up in the fetal position. Jesus, Alan Toro, who write my film antlers, and yes, it was a great pal of mine said, he said, Look, you know, if COVID remind us of anything, we know that we need food. We need shelter. We need medicines, and we need stories. And we will always need films, we will always always need long form television. Whether it's content, as you mentioned, on YouTube, whether it's short films, people need stories we always have ever since when we go back to caveman, right, the corpse of corpse, in cave art in caves in France and elsewhere. So that I'm not concerned about what I am concerned about are the economic headwinds. The difficulty to entry for the marketplace? The marketplace and distribution. And my hope is that that I don't know that we're on the tail end of COVID. Hopefully, still have it now. And it's as bad as ever as intense as ever. Hopefully, once people come back, the older audience come back to cinemas, perhaps it will get easier. But I don't know that film going is the first choice for 18 to 34 year olds. I have kids, they love going to the cinema. They try to go as often as possible. But it's also because I'm a film director, I love to go to the movies. But they're also on Tik Tok all the time. And they're on Instagram and they're on YouTube. owns YouTube. Yeah. So it's it's there are many things that are challenging our time for movies. Because it's expensive and time consuming to get to the to the cinema. I hope that changes. I hope that that will shake out with COVID and the Lego studios now realize that making films, like the films that I make are more important, but it's really all about economics always has been,

Alex Ferrari 49:25
But you know, it has but I think that the studios are now run by corporations and by boards of directors. Oh, but before they were run by filmmakers, you know, you know, I mean, arguably Iger, Bob Iger is probably the only guy who understands it. Look what he's done with Disney for God's sakes. He got his back and think he's back. He understood he understands storytelling understands filmmaking. But I remember growing up I worked at a video store and we would have movies like What About Bob? You know, and these smaller films in Virginia. Right, exactly. So the smaller films with big stars Nice budgets, you know, 10 million 15 million, that there was a shot that do 10 Of those, and one would pop, and the other ones would do, okay, and then maybe two or three would bomb, but they will all work together. And there was more content, more ideas, more things. And that's why we're going back to those times to mind those ideas, because everyone's terrified of doing that kind of stuff right now, where Netflix, and Amazon and Apple aren't scared to do that, because their business model is different. That's right.

Scott Copper 50:28
And I suspect that there are a lot of different streaming platforms, which are expensive for people to have six or eight of them. I imagine that there will be fewer going forward. And but those will still be providing great content. And that's, of course, Netflix and Apple and Amazon Disney plus who are well capitalized. But then I think you'll probably also see some consolidation. And the less buyers the worse off for all of us.

Alex Ferrari 51:03
Agreed my friend agreed that's without question

Scott Copper 51:06
Companies like Sony Pictures, classics, and my good friends at Fox Searchlight who backs Yeah, a couple of my films, and they and they really are run by filmmakers. Films, year in and year out. They're great supporters of film

Alex Ferrari 51:24
A24 A24.

Scott Copper 51:26
And, and and now and of course, Netflix, Netflix as a whole division that will allow you to make Romo or Bardot or power of the dog or the pale blue eye or on and on and on. And hopefully we can continue to make that because there's so many young filmmakers who are listening to this podcast or your podcast in general, who have stories to tell and should be absolutely, there's no problem. And if you can, if you have that burning desire that says this is the only thing I can do with my life, which is ultimately what I said, then you'll find a way to succeed and tell your story.

Alex Ferrari 52:01
Amen, brother, I think that's that's the key is it's not and maybe you should, maybe you can back me up on this. It's always not about the talent. But perseverance, because there's a lot of people who are around. They're like, man, they're not the best, but they just stuck it out.

Scott Copper 52:18
They just survived. Oh, yeah, we all know examples of that for sure. Yeah.

Alex Ferrari 52:24
And that's something they don't teach you in film school. It's like, I don't look, Michael Jackson, Michael Jackson, Michael Jordan got cut from his high school team talent wasn't enough talent wasn't he had to go and hustle and work and build it up and keep going. And, and that's something that I try to I try to yell at from the top of the mountain here as well.

Scott Copper 52:41
Hey, if you had my pal, Adam Sandler on to talk about hustle,

Alex Ferrari 52:45
Please, I would love to have Adam on the show. Please call them up and let them know because I love the show. He should be on. I don't know why he didn't come on hustle. I love by the way, love that movie, love.

Scott Copper 52:56
He's a great, great man. And he's great in the film. And

Alex Ferrari 52:59
If he's if you want to talk about Adam, and people always ask, like, how come Adam keeps getting all these this deal on Netflix? And I always say like, the reason why is because when you're on Friday night with your wife sitting on Netflix, and you're scanning all those thumbnails and you see Adams face. You go, I know what I'm gonna get. And I'm gonna get some livers, man, and he's going to be super funny. Or when he gets into this drop dramatic stuff, which is so underrated. It's dramatic acting great. He and he just he gets it and he understands his brand. He understands what he's doing. And man, he unlike any other actor, I really, he's he's done such amazing stuff over the years. Whether you like yeah, whatever you like. I don't care if people like his films or not everyone has their opinions on stuff. But you can't deny what the man has done. And continue to do it keeps knocking it out of the park. I love to hustle. I love to hustle. So good. I love the guy. So let's talk about the pale blue I you know with Netflix, I you know, it looks beautiful dude. It's stunning. It is stunningly shot. It almost reminded it almost has a Sleepy Hollow vibe to it as far as it gets. Yeah, that's right, that that has that kind of texture? Well, for sure. It's It's stunning, man. So tell me how that that whole thing came to be and and how you were able I mean, I'm assuming you gave the script to Christian Christian said yes. And then Netflix.

Scott Copper 54:31
Yeah, he read it probably a lot. I don't know 10 or 12 years ago after we get out of the furnace. That he was too young to play Augustus landour The world where he detected with too old to play. Edgar Allan Poe, but we'd always talked about it. I mean, I've written a lot of things that I think he and I will make at some point. It's all about as we discussed early on in the podcast, all about timing availability, what we feel like making but we both We're interested in what drives someone to madness, how much pressure has to build before they explode. And violence is what causes morality and decency to erode and otherwise decent people. Right? real horrors seldom have easy explanations. And that's what we wanted to explore with the story. In terms of the aesthetic. It was a it was a brutal shoot is all my wife thinks I'm a masochist. But like I said, it was incredibly cold was bracing winds coming from the northeast, or just almost revenant style. Yeah, it was it was tough. But that was all in serving kind of this Gothic aesthetic, and, and really trying to serve as a, an Edgar Allan Poe origin story, that the two hours that take place in this film, motivate Poe to become the writer that we know and love, the writer of the McCobb, the man who bequeathed to us detective and horror fiction, the man who writes about tragedy and death and the Satanic and the occult, and where life ends and death begins, all those sorts of things that kind of course, through this narrative. And I thought that again, in trying not to do Safe Work. Christian stood on that ledge with me. And then we both took the took the leap, and we're, yeah, so once I attached Christian, my agency, creative artists took the screenplay out and, and we got a lot of bids from Legacy studios, a lot of bids from streamers. But Netflix made us an offer that we thought was too good to pass up in terms of having both a theatrical experience and streaming my first platform experience. And also, quite frankly, there there have the ranks are filled with great filmmakers who really understood the film and allowed me to make the film that you see. I hoped that people find it, you know, starting today on the on the streamer and, and allow people coming behind me to make films that are similarly difficult to make in this marketplace.

Alex Ferrari 57:21
And you've worked with Christian so many times now. I mean, you guys are you're the Scorsese to his dinero at this point, or to his DiCaprio, at this point. Christian is one of the greatest actors of his generation. There's no no question one of the greatest actors of his generation, and his physical transformations that he's done over the course of his life, which I know it's harmed his health.

Scott Copper 57:43
Oh, it has to harm himself. And

Alex Ferrari 57:46
There's nobody who's ever done anything at that again, and again, and again. And again, from the machine is to Batman. You're like, what, how? Tao? How? It's really remarkable. What is the what is the biggest lesson you've learned working with an actor like him?

Scott Copper 58:05
No detail is too small. And always striving for the truth. always striving for excellence, and realizing that we can always do better. And you need people like that to make you a better filmmaker. spoken about it publicly, Christian is my closest pal, my closest collaborator, is a brother to me. And and I'm thankful that as a director, I've had someone who has served as a muse for, for the stories that I want to tell, and people continue to come out and see our work, it won't be the end of it, our collaboration for sure. But he pushes me to be the best filmmaker I can be. And and quite frankly, I admired him more off the set than I do on music is incredibly devoted father and husband and you'll never see Christian in the public eye. You never see him on talk shows. Because he always thinks the less the public knows about him, the more easily they will believe Him as Batman, or Dick Cheney, or Augustus landour and the pale blue where he pumps his gas who he's partying with, where he went through holiday. Never see it.

Alex Ferrari 59:16
Yeah, it's almost a Daniel Day Lewis vibe to because when Daniel, he just wouldn't you don't? Nothing. You didn't do nothing about it. He just show up. 310 years later, I'll do a part now.

Scott Copper 59:27
And that way, you're able to be transported with the filmmakers to a world never even question. Hold on. Is he dating?

Alex Ferrari 59:36
You're right. You're right. He's brilliant. He's brilliant on multiple levels without question, and I have I continue to write for him. Now I have a few questions. Ask all my guests. What advice would you give a filmmaker or screenwriter trying to break into the business today?

Scott Copper 59:49
Tell personal stories, tell personal stories that you know will connect in a very universal way to people in America. Are people in Iran, people in Afghanistan, people in Ukraine, all people need stories tell make personal films?

Alex Ferrari 1:00:08
What is the lesson that took you the longest to learn whether in the film industry or in life?

Scott Copper 1:00:14
It's difficult but patience, and to believe in yourself into Believe in your stories and to believe that you will ultimately cultivate your talent in such a way that it will be undeniable that people will want to work with you. But it all takes patience and experience.

Alex Ferrari 1:00:32
And the toughest question of all three of your favorite films of all time.

Scott Copper 1:00:38
I would say even though I have yet to make a documentary, I love them. I would say Barbara couples, Harlan County, USA. That's a great movie. One thing that really has influenced me the Maysles brothers salesman. It's another I would say John Pierre Melville's, Last Samurai.

Alex Ferrari 1:01:06
Nice. Very nice, very nice list. My friend, Scott brother, I appreciate you coming on the show and and sharing all your knowledge and experience with the audience, man and please continue to make movies man.

Scott Copper 1:01:15
Great questions, man. Keep it up and please people. In all seriousness, don't lose faith. We got to tell stories.

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Ultimate Guide To Martin Scorsese And His Directing Techniques

FIRST SHORT WORKS (1959-1966)

In the United States, feature films are given ratings by the Motion Picture Association of America as a means to prohibit members of certain age brackets from exposure to mature content. The R rating in particular is meant to prevent anyone under the age of 17 from gaining admission to a film that’s been deemed either too violent and/or sexual for their age.

Thanks to home video, I had seen plenty of R-rated films before I turned seventeen, but once I did, damned if I didn’t go straight to the theatre to enjoy some hassle-free Restricted film viewing. The first R-rated film I ever saw in theatres was director Martin Scorsese’s GANGS OF NEW YORK (2002).

The subject matter and historical period attracted me more to the film than the authorship of its director—indeed up until then, I had only been tangentially aware of Scorsese’s influence on the medium. Nevertheless, it was one of the most visceral filmgoing experiences of my young life, and I became acutely aware I was in the hands of a master filmmaker.

In many ways, it was the beginning of my filmic literacy and education.  As of this writing, Scorsese is currently 72 years old, and shows no signs of slowing down or retiring. He belongs to the Film Brat generation of filmmakers, amongst contemporaries like Francis Ford Coppola, Brian DePalma, and Steven Spielberg.

Theirs was the earliest generation to attend and graduate from dedicated film schools like New York University or University of Southern California, and as such, the first generation to truly bring the idea of “community” to filmmaking.

The 1970’s and 80’s were heady days for Scorsese’s generation of filmmakers, with their overlapping social circles causing them to feed off of each other’s creative energies and funnel it into a collective stylistic movement we now call New Hollywood.

In the decades since, Scorsese has emerged as something of a national treasure—he’s not only one of the most significant and influential filmmakers in American history, but he’s also one of its most prolific producers as well.  Scorsese’s body of work largely deals with stories about the Italian-American experience, Roman Catholic concepts of sin and redemption, modern masculinity, and organized crime.

He was instrumental in the development of modern cinema, popularizing many of its core conceits like dynamic camera movement, fast-paced editing, and laying popular music into the soundtrack.  His depictions of the Italian American experience in his native New York City is rivaled in influence only by Woody Allen’s documentation of the Jewish experience.

Younger filmmakers like Spike Lee, James Gray, and even Lena Dunham have followed his example in using the city as a prism with which to focus on certain subcultures (the African-American, Polish/Eastern European, and Millennial/hipster cultures, respectively).

Scorsese is also one of the most decorated filmmakers of our time—he has the most Oscar nominations for Best Director (eight, with one win) of any living director. When considering the total nominations of ALL directors living or dead, he comes in second only to William Wyler, an honor he shares with Billy Wilder.

“Marty” Scorsese was born November 17th, 1942 in Queens, New York to Charles and Catherine Scorsese. Both parents worked in the Garment District in addition to being actors. They were emigrants from the Italian island of Sicily, which meant that Scorsese was a first generation American, and thus better positioned than his parents to pursue the American Dream as he saw fit—a quest that would become a key theme in his body of work.

Having moved to Manhattan’s Little Italy shortly before attending school, Scorsese grew up as a sickly child—his severe asthma prevented him from playing sports, so he would go to the movies instead. The Scorsese household was strictly Roman Catholic, and little Marty had initially planned on becoming a priest when he grew up.

After taking in a screening of Michael Powell and Emeric Pressburger’s BLACK NARCISSUS one day in 1947, however, he found himself bit by the film bug. Hard. He began mainlining a steady diet of films—mostly historical epics and the Italian neorealism of Ingmar Bergman and Federico Fellini.

Films like BICYCLE THIEVES (1948) and ROME OPEN CITY (1945) gave Scorsese a deeper appreciation of his Italian heritage, but the idea of pursuing filmmaking as a career didn’t occur to him until independent director John Cassavetes released his self-financed debut feature, FACES, in 1959—a flashpoint event that forever dispelled any excuse an aspiring director had for not actively making his or her movie.

That same year, Scorsese followed Cassavetes’ example and made his first short film, VESUVIUS VI. Like the historical epics he loved growing up, the film was set in Ancient Rome and drew inspiration from the then-popular television series 77 SUNSET STRIP.

For whatever reason, VESUVIUS VI is unfortunately unavailable for public viewing, but it was enough to land the academically challenged Scorsese a spot in New York University’s class of 1964. From 1960-1964, Scorsese worked towards a bachelor’s degree in English while making two short films that would serve as his first true experimentations with the art form and help solidify his aesthetic.

WHATS A NICE GIRL LIKE YOU DOING IN A PLACE LIKE THIS? (1963)

The ideas and practices of the French New Wave can be felt heavily throughout Scorsese’s earliest publicly available work, WHAT’S A NICE GIRL LIKE YOU DOING IN A PLACE LIKE THIS? The short is about an anxious writer who becomes so entranced by a particular photograph that it gives him terrible writers block.

He meets and marries a young bohemian girl whose carefree ways release him from his internal struggles—that is until her art begins to take a crippling hold on him as well. Scorsese tells a very fractured narrative, switching between subjective first person perspective to documentary-style testimonials and various non sequiturs with reckless abandon.

Shooting in black and white, Scorsese wields his handheld camera with a dynamic, exaggerated sense of reality that’s almost cartoon-like in nature. His compositions and lighting setups are bold, confident, and very impressionistic- indeed, the influence of Fellini and his distinctly magical style is felt in every frame.

WHATS A NICE GIRL LIKE YOU DOING IN A PLACE LIKE THIS? closes with the line, “Life is fraught with peril”—an interesting conclusion that feels very prescient when we consider the films yet to come from the young Scorsese.

ITS NOT JUST YOU, MURRAY! (1964)

The next year, Scorsese made his third work, titled IT’S JUST NOT YOU, MURRAY! It starred Ira Robin as the titular Murray, Sam DeFazio as his buddy Joe, and Andrea Martin as Murray’s aloof wife. Catherine Scorsese even appears, beginning a long tradition of making cameos in her son’s work.

The short follows the black and white, French New wave conceits of its predecessor, going a step farther by exposing its artificiality as a film by acknowledging the presence of a sound man. The film is mostly comedic, but it introduces several ideas that Scorsese would incorporate into his dramatic aesthetic.

Examples include weaving the story specifically into the fabric of New York City and the depiction of violence in a hard-hitting, messy, and realistic manner. IT’S NOT JUST YOU, MURRAY! also sees the first appearance of a common trope within Scorsese’s work—the introduction of the love interest (in this instance, Andrea Martin) as a blonde in a white dress.

It’s not that Scorsese just has a thing for blondes—the frequent appearance of this scene throughout his body of work can be traced back to his Roman Catholic background and the dogma that gave birth to the madonna/whore complex that drives his films’ sexual conflicts.

As a whole, IT’S NOT JUST YOU, MURRAY! is the first of Scorsese’s works to follow his signature narrative framework: a man hailing from an immigrant family (usually Italian) and living in New York City gets involved in shady dealings with a business partner, becomes rich, marries above his social caste, and achieves the American Dream only to lose it all to hubris and ego.

The titular Murray of this short film introduces himself by saying he wants to learn how to live A Good Life—it’s the pursuit of “The Good Life” that Scorsese’s films are all about, and his characters are determined to get it by any means necessary.

Scorsese graduated from New York University’s undergraduate program in 1964, and then went right back in to earn an MFA in Film. He finished in 1966, the same year he made NEW YORK CITY…MELTING POINT, a film about which little is known other than the fact that it’s a documentary.

My guess is that it was Scorsese’s master’s thesis film, but until it is publicly available, we’ll never know for sure. Thankfully, however, we have the above short films to show us that his aesthetic was already highly developed, thanks to a firm command of the craft that he’d cultivated from a childhood spent in the movie theatre. They prove, without a shadow of a doubt, Martin Scorsese was a natural born filmmaker from the very start.


WHO’S THAT KNOCKING AT MY DOOR (1967)

Nowadays, going to college to pursue filmmaking is almost as commonplace as studying law or economics. Nobody bats an eye when a young man or woman declares his or her intentions to become a filmmaker (except maybe for the parents shouldering those insane tuition fees).

It’s hard to believe, in the late 60’s when the idea of “film school” was new and untested, that pursuing a profession in film carried a certain stigma with it. That first class of school-taught filmmakers, comprised of the likes of Francis Ford Coppola, Brian DePalma, or George Lucas, would prove invaluable in legitimizing the idea of film schools as a breeding ground for tomorrow’s top cinematic talents.

Sometime in the mid-60’s, a young man named Martin Scorsese was sitting in a film history course at New York University and found himself struck by his professor’s sheer enthusiasm and love for cinema, beginning a journey that bring him to the forefront of his particular generation of filmmakers.

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The young Scorsese would try his hand at filmmaking by directing two shorts during his undergraduate studies—WHAT’S A NICE GIRL LIKE YOU DOING IN A PLACE LIKE THIS? (1963), and IT’S JUST NOT YOU, MURRAY! (1964).

However, the real test would come in the form of a student short he embarked on the following year—a film about rambunctious young Italian men called BRING ON THE DANCING GIRLS. He might not have known it at the time, but what he was reallyembarking on was his very first feature film—albeit the process of how it came to be deviated greatly from conventional processes.

In 1967, Scorsese added a romantic sublot with actress Zina Bethune to the short and changed the title to I CALL FIRST, eventually screening it at the Chicago Film Festival the following year (and even earning high praise from a young Roger Ebert).

This led to the film’s acquisition by exploitation distributor Joseph Brenner, who forced the young director to add in a gratuitous sex scene (spliced quite literally into the middle of a dialogue scene) and retitle the film to WHO’S THAT KNOCKING AT MY DOOR.

The film takes place in a world the young Scorsese knew quite well: the Little Italy neighborhood of Manhattan. JR (Harvey Keitel, in his first of several collaborations with Scorsese) is a young hood who spends his days raising hell around town with his no-good friends, and his nights getting his kicks with an endless rotation of loose women he dismisses as “broads”.

He’s a little bit of a dreamer, but for all his open-mindedness, he can’t help fall in line with the community mentality towards women. One day, he meets a girl (the aforementioned Bethune and the first of many Scorsese blondes) on the Staten Island Ferry and is taken with her effortless charms and virginal purity.

They begin a courtship, bonding over their differences as well as their similarities (for instance, a shared obsession with movies). When JR announces to the girl that he wants to marry her, she reveals a dark secret about her past—a few years ago, she was raped while on a date with another boy.

JR is unable to deal with the revelation and storms off into the night for a round of raucous partying with his friends. Unable to forget her, he returns to her apartment the next morning to say that he’s forgiven her—but it’s not forgiveness that the girl seeks, and their incompatibility as a couple is ultimately revealed.

A relatively simple narrative told in an endlessly complex fashion, WHO’S THAT KNOCKING AT MY DOOR shares its provocative insights into the double standards that men impose on women. It has lost none of its relevancy considering today’s problems with rape culture and attitudes of entitlement that perpetuate the objectification of women.

WHO’S THAT KNOCKING AT MY DOOR was cobbled together over the course of several years and different shoots, so the cinematography varies throughout its brisk running time. Michael Wadleigh and Richard Coll are credited as the directors of photography, shooting on a mix of 35mm and 16mm black and white film.

At first glance, Scorsese’s stylistic approach here reads like a grab bag of French New Wave tricks: handheld camerawork, jump cuts, fast-pacing, cross-cutting, non-chronological ordering, and impressionistic flourishes (like a party sequence rendered in slow motion).

Independent filmmaker and actor John Cassavetes was a big influence on Scorsese, and the mark of Cassavetes’ 1959 film SHADOWS can be felt in every frame of Scorsese’s debut. Thelma Schoonmaker had the unenviable job of piecing together no less than three separate stories and shoots into one coherent whole in the editing room.

For her efforts, she would be rewarded with a long, fruitful working relationship with Scorsese as his regular editor—a relationship that continues to this day.  Scorsese is credited with helping to popularize the use of contemporary rock music in modern American cinema, and WHO’S THAT KNOCKING AT MY DOOR gives us our first glimpse at the young director’s musical affectations.

Scorsese populates the soundtrack with several jukebox and doo-wop hits. They may sound antiquated to us today, but back in the 1960’s, these songs had the establishment clutching their proverbial pearls. The standout is the use of The Doors’ “This Is The End” during JR’s sex fantasy in the middle of the film, predating Francis Ford Coppola’s use of the song in APOCALYPSE NOW by nearly twelve years.

The sound of Scorsese’s music may have changed over the course of his career, but the character remains the same— full of vitality, energy, and rebellious spirit.

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Scorsese’s early work deals heavily with Catholic concepts of redemption and guilt, as well as how it relates to the Italian American experience in New York. In this regard, WHO’S THAT KNOCKING AT MY DOOR is perhaps the bluntest instrument of the bunch, hammering its themes home with extended montages of old world Catholic iconography—cathedrals, statues of Mary, Christ on the cross, prayer candles, etc.

The love plot serves as a prototypical form of the classic Scorsese romance archetype—a man comes to love a woman who appears like a vision out of a crowd (usually a blonde wearing white), promising to be his salvation from a brutal world— but when she fails to live up to his exacting, ultimately unrealistic standards of purity and innocence, discord most surely ensues.

This Madonna/Whore complex runs through Scorsese’s work—it even pops up in his most recent narrative feature, THE WOLF OF WALL STREET (2013). It’s a conceit deeply rooted in the social and religious structures of Scorsese’s Italian heritage. Other hallmarks of Scorsese’s work—depictions of violence as messy and chaotic and cameos by his mother Catherine Scorsese—make their first appearance in the young director’s scrappy debut.

WHO’S THAT KNOCKING AT MY DOOR was a strong, albeit technically flawed debut that heralded the arrival of a major new voice in American cinema. It brought Scorsese to the attention of commercial production companies as well as the studios, and it saw the beginning of a long series of fruitful collaborations with Thelma Schoonmaker and Harvey Keitel.

It may have been overshadowed by the visceral power of his better-known masterpieces, but it holds it own as a daring entry in the annals of independent film. After an adolescence spent idolizing the cinema as a spectator, Scorsese was now officially a participant—and the art form would never be the same.


EARLY PROFESSIONAL WORK (1967-1970)

After the release of director Martin Scorsese’s debut feature, WHO’S THAT KNOCKING AT MY DOOR (1967), he found himself the recipient of attention from advertising agencies, who wanted him to bring his fresh, bold style to the world of commercials.

The relative infancy of educational filmmaking institutions at the time meant that there was a relatively small pool of directing graduates, thus it was relatively easy to gain attention after making a film and parlay that into a full-time career. That’s not to belittle Scorsese’s achievement, it’s simply a statement of fact— the odds of something like that happening in today’s media-saturated world are slim to none.

As the 1960’s drew to a close, the young Scorsese’s world was opening up. He made his first trip to Europe, immersing himself in its culture and applying his expanded worldview to his art while he made a living directing commercials.

THE BIG SHAVE (1967)

During this busy, exciting time, Scorsese was able to fit in another short called THE BIG SHAVE—his first work in color. The film takes place entirely in a colorless bathroom as a man undergoes his morning shaving ritual—only this particular morning he shaves until his face bleeds profusely, finishing it off by slitting his throat and letting the blood pour into the sink.

Shot by cinematographer Ares Demertzis mostly in punchy closeups, THE BIG SHAVE acts as something of a color study, studying the contrast of dark red blood against the pristine ivory sink with an almost fetishistic curiosity.

While the short definitely stays consistent with Scorsese’s career-long fascination with visceral violence and bloodshed, it also plays to the iconography of his Roman Catholic heritage—specifically the Old World notion of self-flagellation and punishment as a way to redeem one’s sins. It’s a pretty morbid piece of work, especially because of the playful big-band jazz song that Scorsese uses to counterbalance the macabre action.

ARMANI COMMERCIAL (1968)

As I previously mentioned above, Scorsese’s first commissioned gigs saw him traveling abroad for the first time. I was only able to find out about three commercials he made during this period, and only one of them is actually available online.

Scorsese’s spot for ICELANDIC AIRLINES is generally credited as his first commercial, and whatever information is available for his REVLON spot doesn’t leave a lot to go of off. The commercial that is publicly available—done for ARMANI—is interesting in how it is at once both anonymous in authorship (as most commercials are) and indicative of Scorsese’s hand.

Presented in artful black and white, the spot features a young woman teaching a young man Italian—so right off the bat there’s the nod towards Scorsese’s Italian heritage. Furthermore, the spot takes place in a baroque space that suggests something not unlike a Catholic cathedral.

STREET SCENES (1970)

Perhaps Scorsese’s most significant work from this period remains publicly unavailable—the 1970 feature documentary STREET SCENES. The first of many documentaries that Scorsese would make throughout his career, STREET SCENEScovers two historical rallies held to protest the war in Vietnam: New York City’s Hard Hat Riots and the Kent State protests in Washington DC.

The New York protest turns violent, which no doubt resulted in visceral footage. The film also features interviews with his WHO’S THAT KNOCKING AT MY DOOR star, Harvey Keitel, as well as feature collaborators Jay Cocks and Verna Bloom. Coincidentally, one of Scorsese’s camera operators on the film was a young Oliver Stone.

Unfortunately, STREET SCENES was never released on home video, which seems like a huge oversight given the historical importance of its subject matter. The creation of STREET SCENES illustrates Scorsese’s desire to explore social issues not just in a narrative context, but also in a real-world one.

Indeed, Scorsese is one of the very few filmmakers who can regularly alternate between fiction and documentary and provide consistently brilliant quality.  This busy time saw the young Scorsese developing and experimenting with his aesthetic while mingling with an older generation of artists who recognized his considerable talent.

After WHO’S THAT KNOCKING ON MY DOOR, Scorsese cultivated a friendship and mentorship with independent film icon John Cassavetes, but his next feature project would come as a result of his association with an independent filmmaker of a very different kind—exploitation king Roger Coran.


BOXCAR BERTHA (1972)

In the late 60’s and early 70’s, the first crop of film school graduates began entering the work force. Many were lured into the lucrative world of commercials, while others struggled to get their own films off the ground. Music videos hadn’t been invented yet, so that was not yet an option.

One of the biggest employers of filmmakers during this period was B-movie kingpin Roger Corman, who built an empire off of cheaply made exploitation schlock pictures. He’s still doing it, aided and abetted by an even cheaper production pipeline thanks to the digital revolution, and he’s still pulling promising young film school graduates to work for him (a good college buddy of mine recently starred in one of Corman’s producing efforts, 2010’s SHARKTOPUS).

It was through the Corman production pipeline that generation-defining filmmakers like Francis Ford Coppola and Brian DePalma first came up, and in the late 1970’s, Corman roped yet another promising filmmaker into his fold: director Martin Scorsese.

Fresh off the release of his 1967 debut feature, WHO’S THAT KNOCKING AT MY DOOR, Scorsese was hired to direct Corman and co-producer Samuel Z. Arkoff’s production of BOXCAR BERTHA, based on the novel “Sisters Of The Road” by Ben L. Reitman.

For Scorsese, it was his first color feature, and it was strictly a for-hire project—Corman cast lead actors Barbara Hershey and David Carradine himself and oversaw the creative direction of the project. To his credit though, he recognized Scorsese’s immense talent and handed him a significant amount of artistic freedom.

The result is an artfully realized film that transcends its exploitation flick roots and joined an emergent wave of lovers-on-the-run films from the era like Arthur Penn’s BONNIE AND CLYDE (1967) and, later, Terrence Malick’s BADLANDS (1973).

Shot over the course of twenty-four days in Arkansas, BOXCAR BERTHA takes place in the deep South during the rail-riding heyday of the Great Depression. Bertha (Hershey) is a young girl in mid-blossom, on her way to becoming a beautiful young woman.

When her pilot father is killed in a plane crash, the newly orphaned Bertha falls in with a charismatic union organizer named Big Bill Shelly (Carradine). Big Bill is an outspoken critic of capitalism, and he’s followed wherever he goes by authorities suspicious of his Communist sympathies.

After Bertha shoots a wealthy gambler following a heated argument at a card game, she ropes Big Bill into going on the lam with her, along with their friends Rake Brown (Barry Primus) and Von Morton (Bernie Casey). The foursome embarks on a life of crime, riding the boxcars from town to town and stealing from the rich to give to…well, themselves.

As their notoriety grows throughout the land, they become aware that this won’t end well for them, so they might as well enjoy it for as long as it lasts. Their devil may care attitude turns them into folk heroes, admired for their open defiance of the authorities—right down to the bitter end.

Though he may not have had a say in the casting, Scorsese gets great work out of his performers, particularly Barbara Hershey as the titular Bertha. Hershey projects a virginal innocence to the undereducated and impressionable girl who grows into her own as she quickly adjusts to a criminal life on the road.

The late Carradine, who enjoyed a brief career resurgence as a very different Bill in Quentin Tarantino’s KILL BILL VOLUME 2 (2004), plays the rakish folk hero Big Bill Shelly with a calm, inviting demeanor. Rounding out the band of crooks are Barry Primus and Bernie Casey as the foppish Yankee Rake Brown and the strong, quiet Von Morton, respectively.

The inclusion of Casey’s character is especially effective, as it gives off a real sense of period authenticity to the film and gives the film a racial tension that helps us sympathize with the criminal antics of our protagonists as they fight against authorities painted as reprehensible racists and sexual sadists.

Director of photography John M. Stephens helps Scorsese craft a naturalistic look for BOXCAR BERTHA, punctuated with a heavy dose of techniques popularized by the French New Wave—handheld, documentary-style camerawork, realism and immediacy, impressionistic compositions and edits, rack zooms, etc.

Scorsese applies these touches particularly well during the artfully rendered lovemaking scene, which plays out in fleeting closeups and echoes Scorsese’s prior use of the style during the love scenes in WHO’S THAT KNOCKING AT MY DOOR.

Scorsese has built his career off of dynamic camera movements that bring an unparalleled sense of life and energy to his work, and BOXCAR BERTHA is certainly no slouch in that department. The climax in particular sees Scorsese bravely experiment with new visual techniques, such as assuming the POV of someone getting blown back by a shotgun blast.

While the technique itself is a little crude thanks to what little resources he had on set, Scorsese succeeds in injecting the scene with an exhilarating sense of impact and carnage. All in all, BOXCAR BERTHA’s low budget results in a lo-fi feel, an aesthetic that both works for and against Scorsese’s vision.

Given what we know about Scorsese’s immense interest in blues music and culture, BOXCAR BERTHA becomes very relevant indeed when it comes to talking about its music. Gib Guilbreau and Thad Maxwell provide a folksy score heavy on the harmonica and violin, resulting in a sound that’s very much country-bumpkin.

Outside of the score, Scorsese uses a plethora of blues songs—specifically of the Mississippi Delta variety—, each selection curated and informed by his lifelong love for the genre and an intimate knowledge of its culture and history that he showed off in his 2003 documentary THE BLUES: A MUSICAL JOURNEY.

This same knowledge and passion soaks through in every frame of BOXCAR BERTHA, making for a much richer experience than its makers probably aspired to initially.  Scorsese had little to do with the film besides on-set directing and editing, but BOXCAR BERTHA still manages to bear the mark of his participation (outside of his brief cameo as a brothel customer).

For instance, he depicts the film’s violence as rowdy, chaotic, and messy. Like many of the protagonists that populate Scorsese’s work, the heroes of BOXCAR BERTHAaren’t actually heroes at all—they’re likable criminals, or antiheroes whose misdeeds eventually catch up to them and result in their downfall.

It’s in Big Bill Shelly’s downfall that the film most overtly shows the authorship of its director. Bill Bill is nailed to the side of a train—essentially crucified. It’s a very potent image that brings to mind Scorsese’s Catholic heritage and the iconography of his religious upbringing, and it wouldn’t be the last time Scorsese crucified someone onscreen during his career.

BOXCAR BERTHA didn’t make much of a wave when it was released—Corman’s business model was to cheaply make films, quickly release them and reap as much profit as possible before moving on to the next one. Corman specialized in disposable entertainment, but Scorsese made a film that has somehow endured through the ages as a film that can’t be disposed of.

While it lacks the authenticity of his NYC-based work, Scorsese’s vision manages to elevate the mediocre material to the level of historical curiosity.

Despite its status as one of Scorsese’s lesser films, BOXCAR BERTHA acts as unexpected turning point in the young director’s career. He could have very easily gone on to work with Corman again and become an especially good exploitation filmmaker.

Thankfully for us, Scorsese’s friend and mentor, indie icon John Cassavetes, had the courage to tell him that “he had just spent the past year making a piece of shit”—his next work needed to be more personal, or else he ran the risk of struggling in B-movie obscurity.

It was a very fruitful piece of constructive criticism for the young Scorsese to receive—and perhaps the most impactful—as his next project would take that advice to heart and subsequently launch his career in earnest.


MEAN STREETS (1973)

Director Martin Scorsese may have made his first feature in 1967, but it wasn’t really until six years later that his filmmaking career kicked off in earnest with the release of his third feature, MEAN STREETS. Fresh of the whirlwind shoot of 1972’s BOXCAR BERTHA for producer Roger Corman,

Scorsese was sat down by his friend and mentor, John Cassavetes (a fellow independent filmmaker who resided on the opposite side of the artistic spectrum from Corman) and told that while BOXCAR BERTHA was good, he had “wasted a year of his life making shit”.

Cassavetes feared that Scorsese might end up boxed in as an exploitation director, so he challenged Scorsese to tackle something intensely personal as his next project. Scorsese took Cassavetes’ advice to heart, and immediately began writing a feature film inspired by the culture he experienced in his youth in Manhattan’s Little Italy neighborhood.

Scorsese called this script SEASON OF THE WITCH, and it was a story about a young hood rising up the ranks of the Mafia while dealing with his religious beliefs and guilt. Corman offered Scorsese money to make the picture, but true to the producer’s exploitation form, his funding was contingent upon Scorsese assembling a cast comprised entirely of African Americans actors.

While this would be great from a diversity standpoint, Corman’s insistence was most likely rooted in making a proft from the “urban”/”blacksploitation” market, and it was ultimately a tone deaf demand that missed the point of Scorsese’s story entirely.

Thankfully, Verna Bloom (who Scorsese had worked with previously in his 1970 documentary STREET SCENES) was able to set Scorsese up with Jonathan Taplin, who was the road manager for The Band and was looking to get into producing.

This relationship would prove mutually beneficial in that Scorsese would later direct a documentary on The Band called THE LAST WALTZ (1978), but in 1973 this association was already proving quite fruitful in getting Scorsese’s vision off the ground.

The film was released as MEAN STREETS, named after a passage in Raymond Chandler’s essay “The Simple Art of Murder”, and it would become instrumental in launching not only Scorsese’s career, but those of his collaborators as well.

MEAN STREETS takes place entirely within the Little Italy neighborhood of New York City (although ironically a great deal of the film was actually shot in Los Angeles). Charlie (WHO’S THAT KNOCKING AT MY DOOR’s Harvey Keitel) is a small time hood, quickly rising up through the ranks of the Mafia.

Far from the elegant, old-world, and moneyed mafia depicted in Francis Ford Coppola’s THE GODFATHER only a year prior, these “made men” are living in slummy, crumbling tenements and are barely eking out the money with which to buy their fine Italian suits.

Charlie is still somewhat on the outskirts, not yet a made man himself. He’s held at arms length by his higher-ups, mostly because of his lack of seniority but also because of his jerkoff friends, whose wild ways constantly get him into trouble by virtue of association.

His good friend Johnny Boy (Robert DeNiro) is the worst of the bunch—an unpredictable loose cannon who owes money to just about everybody in the neighborhood and can’t ever seem to pay anything back. Johnny Boy’s in hot water with Michael (Richard Romanus), a local loan shark whose patience is growing quite thin.

Charlie feels responsible for Johnny Boy, partly because of the fact that their circle of friends looks to him as their unofficial leader, but also because he’s romantically involved with Johnny Boy’s cousin, Teresa (Amy Robinson).

As he schmoozes with the sharks in a bid to solve Johnny Boy’s debt problems before they get out of hand, Charlie finds himself dragged into Johnny Boy’s downward spiral, and realizes he has to cut his ties from everything he’s ever known if he’s to make it out of this alive.

Take away all of its technical and aesthetic brilliance or its groundbreaking approach to music, and MEAN STREETS would still be one of the most important films of Scorsese’s career, because Robert De Niro. Scorsese and De Niro are practically joined at the hip as far as cinematic history is concerned, and through the decades both men have continued to collaborate together to make truly incredible, unimpeachable masterworks of cinema.

MEAN STREETS was their first time ever working together, and their volatile chemistry literally explodes off the screen from De Niro’s first appearance. De Niro had acted in movies prior to MEAN STREETS, but the role of Johnny Boy—a wild anarchist and financial delinquent—would become his breakout.

Keitel’s brilliance remains consistent in his second starring role for Scorsese as a Roman Catholic man who questions his faith and tests himself by seeing how long he can hold his finger to flame, which points to a very Old World, self-flagellating view on religion.

As the chief antagonist—the loan shark Michael—Richard Romanus projects an icy, restrained demeanor that’s quite effective. As the sole female presence amidst all this unchecked machismo, Amy Robinson holds her own as a force to be reckoned with as well as Charlie’s refuge from a brutal, cold world.

Scorsese also peppers in a few cameos from his BOXCAR BERTHA cast (David Carradine as a drunk and Victor Argo and Harry Northrup as a Mafia underling and returning Vietnam vet, respectively), in addition to making one himself as a gunman for Michael that plays a crucial role in the film’s climax.

Stylistically, MEAN STREETS marks a return to the aesthetic that Scorsese cultivated in WHO’S THAT KNOCKING AT MY DOOR, shooting this time on color 35mm film instead of the mix of 16mm and 35mm black and white film that he shot his debut with.

Lensed by cinematographer Kent Wakeford, MEAN STREETS incorporates Scorsese’s affection for the techniques of the French New Wave as well the aesthetic of John Cassavetes’ work, which– combined with the physical limitations of his budget—results in the predominant use of handheld camerawork.

The naturalistic immediacy of the handheld camera gives MEAN STREETS a very gritty and tough feel that lends well to fast cuts and bold compositions—the boldest of which is undoubtedly the strapping of a camera onto Keitel’s body and pointed to his face for a woozy, drunken feel that Darren Aronofsky would use even more effectively a generation later in his 1999 film REQUIEM FOR A DREAM.

The overall effect is a realistic, yet expressionistic aesthetic that would become a flashpoint in the development of the modern crime film.  The experimentation that gives MEAN STREETS its vibrant originality extends to the editing, which was performed by Scorsese himself under the consultation of Sidney Levin (who ended up receiving the onscreen credit because of his membership in the editing guild).

Throughout his career, Scorsese would go on to shoot his projects in a variety of different formats, often even mixing them together and embracing the technical incongruities. MEAN STREETS sees the beginning of this aspect of Scorsese’s work in his use of 8mm footage during the opening credits, which results in a “home movie” feel.

There’s also Scorsese’s interesting use of voiceover in the film, which he recorded with his own voice—despite it belonging to Charlie’s inner monologue. Apparently, this was done as a way to separate Charlie’s thoughts and his actions, almost like two separate people were living inside his head.

A very interesting technique, no doubt—one that Scorsese pulled from a similar conceit of Federico Fellini’s in his 1953 film I VITELLONI. One of MEAN STREETS’ most enduring legacies can also be ascribed to Scorsese’s work as a whole, which is the popularization of the “jukebox” soundtrack, or the wall-to-wall incorporation of prerecorded needledrops—a boon to record labels and a curse to score composers everywhere.

MEAN STREETS in particular uses a lot of music from popular acts of the era like The Rolling Stones and The Ronettes, combining it with Italian folk music and opera to give us a sense of history and cultural heritage existing in concert with a fast-paced modern world.

MEAN STREETS marks the first time that Scorsese’s key aesthetic fascinations really come emerge. It’s a New York City-set story about the experience of Italian American immigrants chasing their own version of the American Dream—but as a put-upon, disenfranchised minority, they must cheat if they hope to even play the game.

They accumulate money and power through illegitimate means, and hold on to it through the use of violence and intimidation, which Scorsese depicts as messy, chaotic, and unorganized as it is in real life. The Feast of San Gennaro, the world famous festival that unfolds annually in the streets of Little Italy, factors heavily into MEAN STREETS’ plot, a further illustration of Scorsese’s fascination with his Italian heritage as well as a device in which to introduce religious imagery and dogma into a film about amoral, murderous mobsters and imbue his scrappy, low-level protagonists with a great deal of likeability.

The burden of religion hangs heavily over the film, looming large in the consciousness of Keitel’s character especially. He’s always testing how long he can hold his finger to an open flame, which calls to mind the fire and brimstone imagery of Roman Catholicism at the time as well as their self-flagellating approach to atoning for one’s sins.

Keitel’s character’s motivations are driven out of a fundamental Catholic guilt—from his association with his friends to his courtship with his girlfriend— but his constant doubt about his worthiness in Jesus’ eyes gives MEAN STREETS a rich ideological complexity that feels just as relevant today as it did then.

MEAN STREETS debuted to near-unanimous critical applause, hailed for its boldness in storytelling and technical mastery of craft despite its low budget. And rightly so—MEAN STREETS is essentially a cinematic declaration by Scorsese, announcing his presence to the world and just what he thought of it.

It was a career breakout for both the young director and his two leads, and with De Niro in particular it was the blossoming of a long, fruitful working relationship that would last decades. MEAN STREETS plays like Scorsese’s true first feature, wherein his aesthetic was solidified and the potent cocktail of elements that constituted a “Scorsese film” first gained traction as a tangible idea.

In the years since its release, Scorsese has gone on to fulfill the initial promise of MEAN STREETS with a string of inarguably classic works, becoming one of America’s most treasured auteurs in the process. It may not have won a great deal of awards in its day, but MEAN STREETShas proved its staying power with its inclusion into the National Film Registry in 1997, ensuring that Scorsese’s groundbreaking breakout will be accessible to film lovers for generations to come.


ITALIANAMERICAN (1974)

Director Martin Scorsese has built a decades-long career off of his explorations of his Italian American heritage, mostly through the more lurid aspects of his culture like the Mafia and criminals which, while they certainly gets butts into the seats, only represents a small slice of his people’s immigrant experience in America.

After his directorial breakout MEAN STREETS brought the young director to mainstream Hollywood attention in 1973, Scorsese wanted to shed some light on an underserved aspect of Italian American culture—the humble, everyday working family. In 1974, he created the documentary ITALIANAMERICAN, turning the camera on his own parents in a bid to chronicle the simpler pleasures of his heritage, like the communal experience of dinner.

ITALIANAMERICAN takes place entirely within Scorsese’s parents’ apartment in Little Italy, with the director himself appearing onscreen as he casually interviews his father Charles and mother Catherine. They talk about their forty years of marriage to each other, as well as their early lives as first generation Americans and children of Sicilian immigrants.

Catherine and Charles’ chemistry still sparks, even after four decades of marriage, and we can see how they informed and shaped key aspects of Martin’s own personality. Catherine in particular is quite the firecracker, joking to Martin and his friends and lovingly busting Charles’ balls at every opportunity.

ITALIANAMERICAN resembles documentaries of the era, with Scorsese and his cinematographer, Alec Hirschfeld, using natural light to capture the (what appears to be) 16mm film image. The handheld camerawork feels very improvisational, lending a cinema-verite feel to the proceedings.

Scorsese accentuates the natural banter and atmosphere by splicing in family photographs, stock footage of Little Italy at the turn of the century, and Italian folk music in a bid to weave his parents’ story into the larger tapestry of the Italian-American experience.

The documentary finds Scorsese intimately engaging with his roots, both in the superficial aspects like when he asks his mother how she makes her spaghetti sauce (the recipe for which is actually included in the end credits), as well as the deeper aspects about the immigrant experience.

One compelling part of the film concerns the idea of 1st generation Americans, born from immigrant parents, who as a result of their assimilation into American culture at birth gives them a worldview directly at odds with their parents—they see their cultural homeland, indeed their own flesh and blood, as exotic.

They have a distant concept of a place they may never get to visit. They experience their heritage in black and white still frame, while their parents remember it in glorious Technicolor. For instance, Scorsese’s parents recount how they didn’t visit Italy themselves until their honeymoon—forty years after their wedding.

That alone is a baffling concept to most second, third, fourth, etc- generation Americans, who have enjoyed the benefits of an upward mobility built on the foundation of their ancestors’ pursuit of the American dream. In exploring his heritage in this way, Scorsese is able to connect with a larger audience that may not share his Italian ancestry but shares a common human experience within their own family history.

While it’s a relatively minor work within Scorsese’s canon, even within his body of documentary work, ITALIANAMERICANis still an important one. It’s an unfiltered view into the young director at his most intimate and private—sharing a meal with the people who shaped him into the man he is today.


ALICE DOESN’T LIVE HERE ANYMORE (1974)

In 1974, director William Friedkin released THE EXORCIST and created a genuine phenomenon. His lead actress, Ellyn Burstyn, was vaulted into a position of creative power off the strength of her performance in the film, bestowed with the enviable privilege to choose whatever role she wanted next.

A brilliantly gifted performer, Burstyn was dissatisfied with the limited number of options available to actresses—she didn’t want to play another supportive housewife or put-upon mother, but ironically her next role would be just that, albeit with a twist that would allow her to own the role completely— all the way to a Best Actress win at the Academy Awards.

She chose a script by Robert Getchell called ALICE DOESN’T LIVE HERE ANYMORE, and acting as the de facto executive producer, she went about searching for a young, up-and-coming director to helm the film.

Burstyn started by soliciting suggestions from director Brian DePalma, who would serve as her conduit into the larger pool of young directors. Interestingly enough, they all knew each other from film school—they were an entire generation linked together as a social community, something that young filmmakers take for granted now.

DePalma led Burstyn to Francis Ford Coppola, who in turn recommended a young hotshot named Martin Scorsese, fresh of his breakout third feature MEAN STREETS (1973). Burstyn liked the gritty immediacy of Scorsese’s film, but was unsure his sensibilities would translate to a feminine perspective.

During their meeting, Burstyn reportedly asked Scorsese what he “knew about women”, to which Scorsese replied, “nothing, but I’d like to learn”. Burstyn hired him on the spot, and before he knew it, Scorsese was on the set of his first true studio feature film.

ALICE DOESN’T LIVE HERE ANYMORE takes place in the arid deserts and crumbling dwellings of the American Southwest. Alice (Burstyn) is a humble housewife living in New Mexico with her rowdy, rebellious son Tommy (Alfred Lutter), and a husband who only pays attention to her when he’s angry with her.

Alice is fundamentally unhappy with her situation—not that she’d ever admit it to anyone. One day, her husband is killed in a trucking accident, leaving Alice and Tommy’s future very uncertain. With little money to go off of, they decide to pack their things in search of a better life in Monterey, California—the idyllic town where Alice spent her childhood.

They hit the road, stopping along the way so Alice can find work as a singer. While this provides some cash flow, it also attracts bad characters, like a philandering, abusive young buck named Ben (Harvey Keitel) who is no better than the dead husband she left behind. Alice gets another job as a waitress in an Arizona diner so that she can more reliably provide for her young son.

It’s here that she meets David (Kris Kristofferson), a quiet rancher with kind eyes. Alice and David eventually fall in love, but like any relationship, it’s not without its share of turbulence. Ultimately, ALICE DOESN’T LIVE HERE ANYMORE is a character test—Alice has to go through a crucible of her very own in order to prove her mettle as a modern woman and take charge of her own destiny.

As I wrote above, Burstyn won the Best Actress Oscar for her portrayal of Alice, a modern woman with old-fashioned sensibilities. She’s put through the veritable wringer and somehow comes out the other end not just intact, but better than before.

The same year that ALICE DOESN’T LIVE HERE ANYMORE was released, Scorsese’s friend and mentor John Cassavetes released his acclaimed A WOMAN UNDER THE INFLUENCE, and Burstyn’s performance in the former film sharing some character traits with Gena Rowlands’ performance in the latter leads me to wonder if Scorsese’s direction wasn’t informed by Cassavetes’ work somewhat.

The Oscar win was just the icing on the cake of a banner year for Burstyn.  Burstyn is surrounded by an ensemble of fine actors, led by Kristofferson’s strong silent-type rancher, David. Harvey Keitel, in his third collaboration with Scorsese, bring his signature New York-style machismo to the role of Ben, a foppish, philandering cowboy with a serious anger problem.

Alfred Lutter makes his film debut as the nerdy smartass Tommy, and while he makes quite a splash here, he couldn’t quite generate the momentum he would need to sustain a serious acting character as he grew up. A young Jodie Foster also appears as Audrey, a tomboyish delinquent and latchkey child.

Scorsese was pleased enough by Foster’s performance to bring her back for his next feature, 1976’s TAXI DRIVER and set her on her way to becoming the world-famous actress she is today. The film also contains a few cameos by early Scorsese regular Harry Northrup as a bartender and the director himself as a barely-visible patron in Alice’s diner.

Scorsese reteams with his MEAN STREETS cinematographer Kent Wakeford for ALICE DOESN’T LIVE HERE ANYMORE, giving the film a brighter color palette and overall feminine touch to distinguish it from their previous effort.

Scorsese and Wakeford use a variety of handheld, dolly, and crane movements to inject an immediate sense of reality and grit to the 35mm film image, which contrasts quite starkly with the opening sequence set in idyllic Monterey, which—with its nakedly theatrical soundstage look—serves as an homage to THE WIZARD OF OZ and conjures up the idea of Monterey itself as this mythical place full of happiness and innocence that may have never actually existed to begin with.

Scorsese also incorporates touches of French New Wave technique, like rack zooms and jump cuts as a way to add some edge to an otherwise conventional “flyover-country melodrama”. His inspired approach to the execution of the film extends to the selection of his key collaborators behind the scenes.

As a young man, Scorsese wisely assumed he had no proper frame of reference to authentically portray a female point of view, and as such he turned to strong, talented women for help at every opportunity. For instance, Toby Carr Rafelson (wife to Bob Rafelson of FIVE EASY PIECES (1970) fame) served as the production designer, while George Lucas’ then-wife Marcia performed editing duties.

Finally, Richard LaSalle is credited for the film’s music, but ALICE DOESN’T LIVE HERE ANYMORE is another instance of Scorsese’ affection for rock music bleeding into his art, incorporating contemporary tracks from artists like Mott the Hoople and Elton John in a bid to flesh out Alice’s particular world.

While Scorsese may be way out of his comfort zone in terms of locale and subject matter, ALICE DOESN’T LIVE HERE ANYMORE still bears his undeniable stamp. The men in Alice’s life are impulsively violent and quick-tempered, and when they indulge in their impulses, the results are messy, chaotic and unpredictable.

Indeed, even out in the vast expanse of Southwestern desert, Scorsese still can’t escape the random violence of urban life, such as the scene where Alice and Tommy lay in bed listening to a couple loudly fighting in the next hotel room over. Like their east coast counterparts, the characters that populate Scorsese’s Southwest don’t put on any airs, unafraid to utter casual profanities or rough up their spouses in the presence of others.

ALICE DOESN’T LIVE HERE ANYMORE was released to near unanimous praise from critics, leading all the way to the aforementioned (and well-deserved) Best Actress Oscar win for Burstyn. The film was so well received that it even went on to inspire a sitcom called ALICE, set in the same diner as the film and featuring some of the original cast members in regular roles (Burstyn herself would not reprise her role).

For Scorsese, his great work here would eventually be overshadowed by the outstanding legacy of his later works, and thus remains a minor entry in his canon—a curious departure from the east coast world he knew so well and the hard-edged mentalities of the people who inhabited it.

Nevertheless, the production ofALICE DOESN’T LIVE HERE ANYMORE broadened Scorsese’s worldview and bestowed him with the necessary creative momentum to get his next feature off the ground—a feature that would undoubtedly become his first true masterpiece.


TAXI DRIVER (1976)

I’ve always believed that great art is born from a place of deprivation.  The state of needing something—love, companionship, comfort, etc.—can result in greater urgency and intensity on behalf of the person expressing an idea.  Conversely, some of the most banal, meaningless art comes from a place of complacency—simply collecting a paycheck. 

One of the most influential films of the 1970’s, director Martin Scorsese’s TAXI DRIVER (1976), was born of deep, existential deprivation.  Writer Paul Schrader wrote the screenplay during a very turbulent time in his life that saw a series of escalating mishaps turn him into something of a recluse. 

Inspired by his interior monologue and self-perceived outsider status, Schrader fashioned a story about an everyday taxi driver as a study of pathological loneliness.  The script was picked up by producers Julie and Michael Phillips, and was separately brought to the attention of Scorsese by his filmmaking contemporary Brian DePalma. 

By this point, Scorsese had a handful of successful features under his belt and was teaching film at his alma mater, New York University.  He strongly responded to the script, and actively campaigned for the job.  It was only after his MEAN STREETS (1973) star, Robert De Niro, won the Best Supporting Actor Oscar for his role as the young Viteo Corleone in Francis Ford Coppola’s THE GODFATHER PART II (1974) that Scorsese was able to leverage his collaboration with the actor into landing the job. 

TAXI DRIVER would become a transformative project for both men, propelling them to the forefront of the contemporary cinema scene with a bold piece of work that would define not only its decade, but an entire generation. 

TAXI DRIVER is striking to watch today because it depicts a New York City that simply does not exist anymore—a time before Giuliani, when crime and decay spread through the crumbling streets like a cancer.  Travis Bickle (De Niro) is an insomniac Vietnam vet without much of a social life. 

He takes on a job as a cab driver working the night shift, where he can connect with the beating pulse of the city and its eclectic mix of inhabitants.  He drifts aimlessly through his days, eating junk food and going to porn theatres.  The fog lifts when he encounters a beautiful young woman named Betsy (Cybill Shepherd). 

She’s put-together, elegant, and motivated—everything he’s not.  He obsesses over her, lurking outside the Presidential campaign office she works for a few days before working up the nerve to ask her out.  He bungles their first date by taking her to a porn theatre, and while he tries to regain her trust, he becomes simultaneously fixated on a child prostitute named Iris (Jodie Foster).

At first he attempts to talk her out of leaving the profession, but a growing obsession with guns, knives, and Old Testament/fire & brimstone righteousness alters the plan to include forcefully liberating her from her sexual oppressors.  Through it all, Travis Bickle is reborn as something of a vigilante—a man who will take the salvation of his beloved city into his own hands.   A man who will cleanse it with fire and blood. 

Scorsese’s second collaboration with De Niro proves so sharp that it draws blood.  As the lonely sociopath at the center of the story, De Niro channels a quiet, intense sense of judgment and superiority, giving him a buzzing latent racism while abstaining from indulgences that would make the character unlikable. 

The horror of the character comes in our recognition of ourselves in Travis Bickle, and De Niro is able to strike right to the heart of our deepest fears.  Fresh off his Academy Award win, De Niro showed no signs of complacency and dove headlong into the preparation of his role, to the extent that he actually drove a cab around New York City for twelve hour stretches at a time. 

Foster, who was only twelve years old during filming and had previously appeared in Scorsese’s ALICE DOESN’T LIVE HERE ANYMORE (1974) plays the extremely risky and controversial role of Iris, a child prostitute who may be disillusioned and cynical through her decidedly adult activities, but still has the naiveté and innocence of a young girl.

Also returning from the pool of previous Scorsese performers is Harvey Keitel, who plays Iris’ pimp,  Sport, in a long black wig that makes him look like Tommy Wiseau.  Scorsese rounds out this trio of antisocial weirdos with otherwise normal people who seem to be visiting from another world completely. 

There’s Cybill Shepherd as Betsy, the first true Scorsese blonde and an intelligent, sophisticated, and ultimately unattainable beauty.  She’s introduced wearing all white in a slow motion shot, which would become a recurring trope in Scorsese’s later work, and she also embodies the Madonna/whore complex that the director likes to give his protagonists.  There’s also comedian Al Brooks in his younger days as the ineffectual, bookish Tom—Betsy’s co-worker and a fellow Presidential candidate canvasser at the office.  

Scorsese populates his day players with cameos from past collaborators both present in the flesh and absent yet alluded to.  Among the familiar faces we see are Harry Northup as a fellow taxi driver, Steven Prince as a black market arms dealer, Victor Argo as a racist shopkeeper, and Scorsese himself as a murderous, cuckolded husband. 

Fleeting references are made to Kris Kristofferson, the star of Scorsese’s previous feature, as well as his parents Charles and Catherine Scorsese in a newspaper photo implying they are Iris’ parents.  TAXI DRIVER is an undeniably gritty film, and Scorsese doesn’t shy away from exposing the seediness of Travis’ surroundings in full detail.

Working with cinematographer Michael Chapman for the first time, Scorsese aims to immerse us in Bickle’s consciousness while reinforcing the character’s internal dialogue with himself that permeates the film. Bickle’s New York is rendered in a sickly, lurid yellow/green patina, echoing his solitude and mental sickness, while the camerawork mixes the documentary immediacy of handheld shooting with virtuoso flourishes like the traveling God’s eye view of Bickle’s carnage after the film’s bloody climax. 

The result is a dark, expressionistic aesthetic at odds with the relative realism of Scorsese’s other crime films.  TAXI DRIVER is a fever dream of acid rain, sweat-soaked skin and cold metal, complemented perfectly by iconic composer Bernard Herrmann’s dissonant, brassy score that throbs along the long Manhattan avenues while dangling the promise of cosmopolitan happiness in the form of a sultry jazz theme. 

Hermann was an Old Hollywood maestro, composer of the scores to classics like Orson Welles’ CITIZEN KANE (1941), and his hiring points to Scorsese’s deep affection for film history.  Ironically, TAXI DRIVER would be Hermann’s last work—he died only hours after returning home from the film’s final recording session. 

TAXI DRIVER sees tremendous growth in the development of Scorsese’s aesthetic, especially in the evolution of his visual language.  The cinematic transgressions of the French New Wave have informed his aesthetic from the start, but TAXI DRIVER marks the point where he’s no longer content to simply steal its stylistic conceits, opting instead to run with the ball and find entirely new visual ideas all his own. 

Take for instance the scene where Travis calls up Betsy and begs for a second date in the phone booth of some dingy elevator lobby.  As Travis’ pleas become more desperate and pathetic, Scorsese simply dollies the camera away from his original composition to look down the length of an empty hallway instead—as if we are physically looking away from the embarrassment of Travis’ phone call. 

There’s also a scene in an all-night diner where Travis zeroes in on the alka-seltzer tablet dissolving in his glass of water.  It’s a trivial detail, ultimately unimportant to the scene, but Scorsese slowly zooms in on the violent bubbles until they fill the screen. 

  Scorsese has said publicly that the shot was inspired by a Jean-Luc Godard film, but here the technique takes on a life of its own, becoming a rich metaphor for the bottled fury bubbling up under Travis’ calm exterior.  In retrospect, it’s hard to imagine anyone else but Scorsese directing TAXI DRIVER—its subject matter falls in line so squarely with his aesthetic fascinations that one could be forgiven he wrote the screenplay from his own idea. 

There’s the New York setting (Schrader’s original script placed the action in Los Angeles), the unflinching portrayal of seedy urban life and the use of antiheroes and/or criminals as protagonists.  TAXI DRIVER takes this latter point to its ironic conclusion, with the media hailing Travis as a hero after a violent rampage that leaves Sport and his colleagues dead, whereas if he’d only been a little more organized in his earlier assassination attempt of Presidential candidate Palantine, he’d be condemned as a villain. 

While Travis does not share the Roman Catholic heritage of previous Scorsese protagonists, his inner convictions take on a somewhat religious bent and provide him with an almost biblical desire to purge the city of filth and sin.   TAXI DRIVER is easily Scorsese’s most darkly disturbing film when it comes to depictions of violence onscreen. 

While the action is staged in the chaotic, unorganized way that Scorsese is known for, it is rendered in exaggerated form.  Bullet wounds don’t just cause bleeding—they cause profuse bleeding.  Hands don’t just absorb a gunshot– they blow apart into millions of pieces. 

It’s not enough to kill somebody with a single shot—it takes several.  Indeed, it’s because of TAXI DRIVER’s bloodbath finale that Scorsese found himself having to deal with real censorship for the first time.  To avoid an X rating that would doom the film before it was ever released, he had to desaturate the colors during the climax so the blood wouldn’t be so bright and red. 

When it was released in 1976, TAXI DRIVER was met with healthy box office numbers, heaps of critical praise, and even some prestigious awards like the Cannes Palme d’Or.  It was, without a doubt, Scorsese’s biggest success to that date.  When the Academy Awards came around, it was rewarded with nominations for Best Picture, Best Actor (De Niro), Best Supporting Actress (Foster), and Best Original Score. 

 TAXI DRIVER is something of an apex in terms of the kind of gritty dramas that Hollywood made in the 1970’s, but by 1976, the tide was turning against them—Steven Spielberg released the first modern blockbuster JAWS the year prior, and George Lucas would essentially blows the doors wide open the following year with STAR WARS

In the decades since its release, TAXI DRIVER’s legacy has continued to grow, positioning itself as a critical film within Scorsese’s filmography.  Several of its scenes would become iconic in cinema history, especially the “You Talkin’ To Me?” scene that everybody and their mother has imitated at some point or another. 

On a more unfortunate note, the film would go on to inspire vigilante actions in the real world, with the most famous case being John Hinckley’s attempted assassination of President Ronald Reagan—all so he could impress Jodie Foster.  Nevertheless, TAXI DRIVER’s importance to the film medium cannot be overstated, and in 1994 it was inducted into the National Film Registry for preservation, ensuring the perpetuity of Scorsese’s first true masterpiece. 


NEW YORK, NEW YORK (1977)

There seems to be a particular aura about American life in the 1940’s that’s ripe for nostalgia.  While we were engaged in the biggest, most devastating war in history, we ascribe a certain romantic, optimistic idealism to the period.  We continue to celebrate the decade– especially within Los Angeles in particular, which came of age during the time and was fundamentally shaped by its cultural values and styles.

Even as I write this, I will be going to a 1940’s-themed song and dance show in downtown tonight, where my wife dances for a troupe that specializes in songs and styles from the era.  The midcentury design and lifestyle aesthetic is an inescapable part of Los Angeles daily life, even today.

The 1940’s appears to have also had quite the profound effect on members of the Film Brat generation of filmmakers.  Steven Spielberg is the most visible example, with a substantial majority of his works either taking place in or directly influenced by the 1940’s.

To a lesser extent, Francis Ford Coppola and George Lucas also took artistic cues from the period, with Coppola making THE COTTON CLUB in 1984 and Lucas drawing inspiration for INDIANA JONES and STAR WARS from the serialized format popular during the era.

 In the late 1970’s, rising young director Martin Scorsese was coming off the runaway success of TAXI DRIVER (1976), and found himself in a position of power.  For his follow-up, Scorsese desired to make a film that harkened back to the era of 1940’s MGM musicals that he had adored and grown up with.

But as a battle-tested acolyte of the French New Wave, Scorsese could not simply make a straight musical—he saw the idea as an opportunity to experiment with the boundaries of the genre and subvert its lavish production values.  Working with screenwriters Earl Mac Rauch and Mardik Martin, Scorsese developed NEW YORK, NEW YORK– an oversized musical about the city he called home and the artists that inhabited it.

It was the biggest film of his career to date, and when it was released in 1977, it would also become his first high profile failure.  NEW YORK, NEW YORK begins in, where else, New York City on a momentous day: VJ Day, 1945.

The end of World War II.  A young, brash jazz saxophonist named Jimmy Doyle (Robert De Niro) shows up at a big USO celebration gala, where he proceeds to use the same pickup lines on every attractive girl in the room.  He eventually winds up at the table of Francine Evans (Liza Minnelli), a pretty young singer sitting alone.

Her witty rejection of his lame lines only emboldens him, and from that point on, he dedicates himself to winning her heart.  While he aggressively woos her, Jimmy tries to find a regular performing gig, but his tendency to improvise outside the lines of the sheet music grates on the ears of his potential bookers.

   In a twist of fate, Jimmy and Francine are booked on a cross-country tour, boosting each other’s careers significantly.  While on the road, they fall in love and are quickly and quietly married.  As a gifted singer, it’s only a matter of time until Francine’s star starts to rise faster than Jimmy’s.

Envious of her success, he leaves Francine at a critical juncture—the birth of their son.  NEW YORK, NEW YORK may be presented in a happy-go-lucky visual style, but it tells a very modern, complicated story about love’s waxes and wanes over the course of several years, as well as the explosive chemistry that can result from mismatched artistic styles.

Despite the lavish production values and large groups of bodies constantly moving through the frame, NEW YORK, NEW YORK really is an intimate examination of two people.  De Niro’s third collaboration with Scorsese results in yet another bold protagonist—a womanizer and self-interested man whose very ambition will doom him to a life of loneliness if he can’t change.

  Like just like had driven a taxi cab for twelve hours a day while preparing for TAXI DRIVER, De Niro prepared for his character here by not just learning how to play the saxophone, but mastering it to the point where it feels like he’s played all his life.

 Every time I see Liza Minnelli on screen, I only see Lucille 2 from ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT, but her performance here as Francine Evans positioned her as a glamorous starlet following in her mother, Judy Garland’s, footsteps.

 She’s a natural fit for the role, bringing a strength and grace that’s slightly off-kilter in her signature Minnelli way.  Barry Primus, who previously appeared for Scorsese in BOXCAR BERTHA (1972), shows up in NEW YORK, NEW YORK as Paul Wilson, a pianist in Jimmy Doyle’s band and a wedge that comes between the two lovers.

Scorsese intended for NEW YORK, NEW YORK to be a break from the gritty realism that had made his name, and to that extent, the film is quite successful.  In a bid to achieve the old-fashioned grandeur and slickness of MGM musicals, Scorsese turned to venerable cinematographer Laszlo Kovacs to lens his film.

Shooting on the real MGM soundstages in LA, Scorsese used all the studio resources at his disposal to create a sweeping, operatic film quite unlike the gritty immediacy that marked his earlier work.  Like the polished Hollywood musicals of old, Scorsese paints in the broad strokes of sweeping dolly and crane movements, framing his subjects in wider compositions while abstaining from close-ups as much as possible in a bid to emulate the stylistic conceits of the genre.

The central relationship between De Niro and Minnelli plays off the dynamic between structure and improvisation—Francine’s composed, controlled singing and Jimmy’s off-the-cuff rebellion against sheet music.  Naturally, this dynamic is reflected in the actual look of the film, which juxtaposes realistic, Cassavetes style method improv acting against the palpable artifice of studio sets and theatrical lighting schemes.

Scorsese and his Production Designer Boris Leven never try to hide the fake facades and sets, opting instead to embrace the artifice as a means to evoke our collective romantic memory of old New York.  Stanley Kubrick used this same approach, albeit to a more realistic degree, in the New York street sets for 1999’s EYES WIDE SHUT.

Naturally, music is a key focal point in the musical genre, and NEW YORK, NEW YORK is perhaps strongest in this area.  Written by John Kander and Fred Ebb, the film’s music perfectly captures the jazzy, big band sound of the era.

Even if you’ve never seen the film, you know its music—the “Theme For New York, New York” came into existence because of this film, and it would go on to become an iconic theme song for the city itself when Frank Sinatra covered it in 1980.  The song has gone on to outshine the film from which it sprang, and serves as perhaps NEW YORK, NEW YORK’s biggest contribution to pop culture.

Though NEW YORK, NEW YORK might be a huge stylistic departure for Scorsese, his unique worldview bears an unmistakable imprint on the film itself.  The New York City setting falls in line with Scorsese’s career-long examination of the city’s history and people.

The film’s naturalistic approach to drama and conflict also results in outbursts of violence that are rendered in the chaotic, messy way that Scorsese is known for.  The subversion of musical genre tropes is also indicative of Scorsese’s habit of filtering classical filmmaking techniques through the lens of postmodernism as a way to comment on the art form itself while finding new forms of visual expression at the same time.

The 1970’s were a triumphant era for personal filmmaking and experimentation.  It was a perfect confluence of factors that gave rise to filmmakers with anti-establishment sensibilities like Scorsese and turned them into household names.

NEW YORK, NEW YORK is very much in line with this string of challenging, personal works, but it may have come too late to the party.  Only a week prior, Scorsese’s contemporary George Lucas released STAR WARS to unprecedented success.  The audience changed nearly overnight, effectively killing the market for smaller, unconventional films like NEW YORK, NEW YORK.

The box office and critical failure of the film reportedly drove Scorsese to depression and drugs, but reports from the set suggested that his downward spiral was already in motion—his insistence that the actors improvise their lines led to a lack of control on his part, and a rapidly worsening cocaine addiction wasn’t doing anything to help matters.

The disappointment over NEW YORK, NEW YORK’s reception would cause Scorsese to embark on something of a hiatus from narrative filmmaking for the rest of the decade.  The newly humbled director turned his attention to documentary works while his wounds healed, but the time away would reset his approach while setting the stage for a triumphant return in 1980.


THE LAST WALTZ (1978)

After the disappointing reception of 1977’s improvised musical, NEW YORK, NEW YORK, director Martin Scorsese retreated from the narrative realm for a couple years.  It was something of a crucible for his burgeoning career, and an escalating cocaine addiction threatened to derail everything he had built.

However, Scorsese’s recuperation period was by no means a dormant one.  He embarked on a series of documentaries, the first being 1978’s THE LAST WALTZ—a concert film chronicling The Band’s farewell concert in San Francisco on Thanksgiving Day, 1976. 

Scorsese became involved through Jonathan T. Taplin, a manager for The Band who had previously produced 1973’s MEAN STREETS.  Rock and roll has played an integral role throughout Scorsese’s career, and though he would go on to make several more concert documentaries as the years went on, THE LAST WALTZ is generally considered his finest work in the arena. 

THE LAST WALTZ is relatively straightforward, featuring The Band performing their hits in full, joined by a veritable who’s who of 1970’s rock like Eric Clapton, Bob Dylan, Neil Young, Ringo Starr, Van Morrison, and Muddy Waters. 

Scorsese also peppers interview footage throughout of the film in which he appears onscreen talking to members of The Band about their experiences with the group, focusing particularly on Robbie Robertson.  The cinema-verite feel of the film’s presentation is complemented by a few instances of staged performance, shot a few days later in a nearby soundstage. 

To accomplish a multi-camera shooting scenario while capturing artful footage, Scorsese recruits his TAXI DRIVER (1976) cinematographer Michael Chapman, who leads a small team of fellow venerated cinematographers Vilmos Zsigmond and Laszlo Kovacs. The mid-to-late 1970’s were something of a “rock star” period for Scorsese—a time when his national profile soared as a director. 

His success was offset by the hazards of fame and fortune, the most dangerous of which was his fondness for cocaine (which no doubt the green rooms backstage were awash in).  In a way, Scorsese was the perfect guy to chronicle this event, further solidifying his artistic association with and importance to rock and roll music. 

A concert film might not provide a plethora of opportunities for artistic indulgence, but Scorsese still manages to make his mark known by referencing his cultural heritage in the form of an Italian waltz during the opening credits, as well as continuing his examination of urban street life by showing the fans waiting in line for the concert. 

THE LAST WALTZ may be a minor work within Scorsese’s filmography, but it was formative in his approach to music documentaries in the future.  Even today, the film is still considered as one of the greatest rock documentaries of all time.  For Scorsese personally, it would be a major development in his career in that his relationship with Robbie Robertson would result in him becoming a key music producer for Scorsese’s later works.


AMERICAN BOY: A PROFILE OF STEVEN PRINCE (1978)

In addition to his prolific narrative output, director Martin Scorsese has also built up a healthy body of work on the side that focused on his personal fascinations with people and culture from a documentary standpoint.  He had previously explored his Italian heritage through the stories of his parents in ITALIANAMERICAN (1974), and chronicled The Band’s final farewell concert in 1978’s THE LAST WALTZ

For his next documentary work, Scorsese turned his camera on a bit player who could be found in several of his early narrative features—Steven Prince.  Best known for his role as the gun-dealer Easy Andy in 1976’s TAXI DRIVER, Prince has arguably lived an even wilder life than Scorsese’s fictional protagonists.

Inspired by Prince’s wild stories and effortless charm as a raconteur, Scorsese pulled together producer/co-editor Bert Lovitt and his TAXI DRIVER cinematographer Michael Chapman to make AMERICAN BOY: A PROFILE OF STEVEN PRINCE (1978). 

Filmed over the course of fifteen hours in a nondescript house in Los Angeles, Prince captivates Scorsese and his crew with various stories from his life—his days as a road manager for the biggest bands of the 70’s… his tales of drug addiction… even the time he shot and killed a guy who was trying to rob a gas station he worked at. 

AMERICAN BOY is shot in the improvisational, unstructured way that Scorsese shot ITALIANAMERICAN, making the two documentaries companion pieces of sorts.  One might think an hour-long film about a guy sitting around a couch and telling stories might be boring, but Prince’s personal eccentricities and lively stories make for a compelling watch. 

Scorsese organizes these stories into vaguely-defined chapters, punctuating them with home movie footage of Prince as a young boy.  At this stage in his career, Scorsese appears to have a few stylistic trademarks he regularly implements in his documentary work. 

As he does in AMERICAN BOY, he appears onscreen himself as he interviews his subjects, making for a very personal, intimate mood.  There’s also the use of rock music, evidenced here by the inclusion of a Neil Young track during the opening and closing credits. 

There’s even a quick bout of violence—Prince and another man playfully wrestle each other—and Scorsese captures it in the same chaotic, spontaneous way in which he depicts fictional violence in his features. AMERICAN BOY is undoubtedly an oft-overlooked work within Scorsese’s filmography, but it has influenced pop culture in an unexpected way. 

At one point in the story, Prince recounts the story of how he saved someone who had overdosed on drugs by stabbing him in the heart and injecting him with adrenaline.  This story reportedly inspired Quentin Tarantino to include a cinematic depiction of it in his 1994 breakout film, PULP FICTION

In relation to Scorsese’s work as a director, AMERICAN BOY doesn’t show a distinct growth—in fact, it shows Scorsese at something of a low point; his dabbling with drugs and surrounding lifestyle can be seen at their most intimate here.  The film makes no mention of Scorsese’s personal drug use, nor does Scorsese’s appearance clue us into cocaine addiction.

Yet, the dangers of his lifestyle hang in the air like the Ghost of Christmas Future.  With this in mind, AMERICAN BOY becomes much darker than its intent, telling us just as much about Scorsese’s junkie days as it does Prince’s.


RAGING BULL (1980)

Every director, no matter how good he or she may be, will have to face failure at one point in his or her career.  It’s an inherent part of making art—the personal nature of expression doesn’t necessarily translate to a positive, objective impression on the receiving end. 

Thus, true artistic success or failure cannot be measured by financial or cultural metrics; it is how the director handles praise or rejection that decides his or her fate as an artist.  By all accounts, Martin Scorsese in the late 1970’s was decidedly failing. 

The cold reception of 1977’s postmodern musical NEW YORK, NEW YORK sent his career into a tailspin—a dive worsened by an escalating cocaine addiction.  He retreated into the world of documentaries, releasing THE LAST WALTZ and AMERICAN BOY: A PROFILE OF STEVEN PRINCE in the same year (1978) and toying with idea of retiring from feature filmmaking forever.

Scorsese no longer felt the burning passion for narrative film that had fueled the likes of MEAN STREETS (1973) and TAXI DRIVER (1976), so when his frequent collaborator Robert De Niro pitched him a movie based off the tumultuous life of middleweight boxing champion Jake La Motta, Scorsese shrugged with ambivalence. 

It would take Scorsese nearly dying from a cocaine overdose for him to come around to the idea—when De Niro visited him in the hospital and repeated his plea to take on the job, Scorsese suddenly found himself connecting to Jake La Motta’s story of glory and ruin. 

In relatively short order, Scorsese and De Niro turned to trusted writing collaborators Mardik Martin and Paul Schrader to translate the book to a script they called RAGING BULL.  They set the project up through United Artists, an independent studio noted for its director-friendly approach to filmmaking—an approach that led their 1976 film, ROCKY, to Oscar glory. 

To further cement their boxing bonafides, Scorsese and company brought the producers of ROCKY—Robert Chartoff and Irwin Winkler—onboard.  And so it was that Scorsese found himself with the opportunity to redeem his narrative feature career, and if by chance he went down for the count, it would be on his own, uncompromising terms. 

RAGING BULL tells the story of champion boxer Jake La Motta (De Niro) during his rise to glory in the New York boxing scene during the 1940’s.  He’s a relentless fighter, and he won’t stop until he achieves greatness.  However, his proclivity for violence extends outside of the ring, affecting his wife and his brother and manager, Joey (Joe Pesci). 

His eyes are dead set on winning the title belt, but it isn’t long until those same eyes wander towards a young neighborhood girl named Vicki (Cathy Moriarty) and he sets about claiming her as his own as well.  Soon enough he has both and retires to a life of luxury in Miami in 1956—but just like the hardscrabble New York life he left behind, Jake finds that retirement isn’t all daiquiris at the poolside. 

Once the very image of fitness, Jake is now flabby and too complacent to fix his life as it crumbles around him.  Ultimately, RAGING BULL is a cautionary tale as old as time, about the rise and fall of a man whose dreams exceed his grasp.

De Niro soars in his fourth collaboration with Scorsese, arguably delivering the best performance of his career (and one rightfully recognized by the Academy with the coveted golden statue).  As Jake La Motta, De Niro ably channels the Bronx Bull’s brutish charisma and explosive fury. 

De Niro has a history of extensively preparing for his roles, and with RAGING BULL he trained with the real La Motta until he was up to professional boxing standards, and subsequently ruined it all when he put on the significant amount of weight required to play an older, obese La Motta in retirement. 

La Motta is a fundamentally unlikable character, but De Niro imbues him with a relatable pathos, giving the audience a window into our own ambitions and the lengths at which we’ll go to achieve them.  Joe Pesci, who would go on to become a regular Scorsese cast member in his own right, finds his career breakout here through the role of Joey, Jake’s brother and manager. 

A character actor who had struggled in obscurity for decades and was just about to call it quits, Pesci’s anxiously combative performance in RAGING BULL is a revelation.  To portray the role of La Motta’s duplicitous wife Vicki, Scorsese found an unknown named Cathy Moriarty, and her chilly, tough (but no less feminine) performance here rocketed her straight to an Academy Award nomination.

Out of all of Scorsese’s leading ladies, Moriarty is arguably the purest example of the “Scorsese blonde” archetype—a beautiful, calculating woman who knows how to manipulate the men around her to get what she wants.  Finally, there’s Frank Vincent in the bit role of Salvy, a neighborhood thug and a rival of Jake’s for Vicki’s affections. 

He was a non-actor when he was cast, but his compelling performance in RAGING BULL was enough to turn him into the go-to actor for Italian/Mafia type characters.  RAGING BULL is infamous for its revival of black and white cinematography in a time dominated entirely by color. 

This was done to give the film some period authenticity while also differentiating it from ROCKY.  Scorsese enlisted his regular cinematographer Michael Chapman to lens the film, and together they create a hybrid aesthetic that deals in both documentary-style realism and impressionistic experimentalism. 

They save the naturalistic cinematography for La Motta’s life outside the ring, punctuating it with documentary-style intertitles to quickly establish when and where we are.  Additionally, they supplement the realism with color 8mm footage meant to evoke La Motta’s home movies.  However, it’s inside the ring where RAGING BULL really distinguishes itself and leaves it mark on the history of cinema. 

Whereas most boxing films prior to RAGING BULL covered the action from an outside perspective, Scorsese and Chapman literally step inside the ring.  In that simple switch from an objective to a subjective perspective, Scorsese grants himself an unprecedented amount of creative freedom. 

We first see hints of it during the opening credits, where La Motta is depicted in distant silhouette, pacing around the ring in slow motion, set to the mournful dirge of Pietro Mascagni’s “Intermezzo” from the Cavalleria Rusticana.  As the boxing sequences unfold, Scorsese turns the ring into a smoky, molasses-slow hellscape where La Motta must do battle with his own internal demons manifest in physical form.

Scorsese and Chapman’s expressionistic camerawork is complemented by editor Thelma Schoonmaker’s fearlessly dynamic cuts.  Schoonmaker, who had previously worked with Scorsese on his feature debut WHO’S THAT KNOCKING AT MY DOOR (1967), had been unable to work with the director ever since—barred entry into the editing guild simply because she was a woman. 

The guild finally came to their senses in time for Schoonmaker and Scorsese to reunite on RAGING BULL, and the pair has been inseparable ever since.  Scorsese has a habit of eschewing conventional original scores in favor of needledrops from his own record collection, resulting in films that feel like they inhabit the same world as ours. 

Towards that end, RAGING BULL is consistent among Scorsese’s works in that it utilizes a mix of period music from the 1940s through the 1960’s—both popular jukebox tunes as well as traditional folk ballads that flesh out the Italian heritage of La Motta and the neighborhood that surrounds him. 

Scorsese also uses a few works from classical composer Pietro Mascagni, most notably the aforementioned “Intermezzo” to add an air of melodrama, subverting the image of a brutish lout with a sophisticated, elegant sound.  Funnily enough, the most powerful aspect of RAGING BULL’s soundtrack is silence. 

The film is a master study in the strategic absence of sound during crucial moments, like La Motta’s final fight against Sugar Ray.  Scorsese’s initial reluctance in taking on RAGING BULL stemmed from his distaste for sports and a general emotional disconnect from the psyche of a man who earned his living by knocking people out. 

He must have been surprised then to find that RAGING BULL falls right in line with his artistic aesthetic and thematic fascinations.  His affection for the Italian American experience in New York City provides colorful background detail to La Motta’s home life, perfectly capturing the shouting and random fights that constitute the chaos of an urban existence. 

This acknowledgement of the messy violence in the streets allows Scorsese to draw compelling comparisons with the disciplined, almost elegant violence inside the boxing ring.  An archetypical Scorsese protagonist is both saint and sinner, and Jake La Motta is no exception to the rule.

Despite associating with thugs and gangsters and being a lowlife himself, he lives by his own, principled code.  La Motta isn’t outwardly religious, but he shares a similar Roman Catholic tendency for self-flagellation with protagonists like Harvey Keitel’s character in MEAN STREETS

La Motta takes a lot of abuse in the ring (at one point even giving himself entirely over to his opponent in atonement for throwing an earlier fight), denies himself sexual pleasure, and beats himself up in a jail cell.  Unlike a typical Scorsese protagonist, however, La Motta’s gospel doesn’t come from the bible– it comes from the streets. 

Take the ending scene, where a plump, washed-up La Motta gives himself a pep talk in the mirror before going onstage for his nightly lounge act.  He recites Marlon Brando’s seminal “I Coulda Been A Contender” monologue from director Elia Kazan’s ON THE WATERFRONT (1954), a film which no doubt would have struck a profound chord with people of La Motta’s persuasion and background at the time. 

On a surface level, the scene could be read as Scorsese paying homage to a cinematic influence of his own, but it really serves to illuminate the inflated “noble victim” mentality that La Motta uses to shield himself from actually changing for the better. 

Scorsese couldn’t have known it at the time, but this scene in particular would go on to become one of the most iconic moments in cinematic history, rivaling even that of the scene in ON THE WATERFRONT that it references, as well as directly inspiring the final scene of Paul Thomas Anderson’s BOOGIE NIGHTS (1997)—a film similarly about the rise and fall of a showman whose greatest asset is his own body. 

RAGING BULL is an incredibly significant milestone in Scorsese’s filmography, whereby he demonstrates his maturation as an artist and fulfills the promise of his early work.  It is arguably Scorsese’s most pure and uncompromised film– indeed, he fought tooth and nail over every little artistic choice in a bid to make sure every frame demonstrated his vision. 

All this passion wasn’t unwarranted—after the failure of NEW YORK, NEW YORK, Scorsese truly thought RAGING BULL would be his last film, so he summoned all his creative energies to make it just the way he wanted. 

The result was a cinematic rebirth for Scorsese, who went on to secure Oscar nominations for Best Picture and Director, alongside the film’s other nominations for Best Actor, Supporting Actress, Cinematography, and Editing. 

In a stunning display of short-sightedness on the Academy’s part, RAGING BULL was only awarded two Oscars—one for De Niro’s performance and the other for Schoonmaker’s groundbreaking edit.  The film’s direction and cinematography have proven massively influential over the years, completely overshadowing the legacy of Robert Redford’s ORDINARY PEOPLE—the film that the Academy passed RAGING BULL over for. 

Thankfully, RAGING BULL isn’t an easy film to forget, and it has stood the test of time.  When it was selected for preservation by the National Film Registry in 1990 (its first year of eligibility), RAGING BULL’s cinematic legacy was finally assured, marking it as the point in which Scorsese had emerged as a true master of the art form.  


THE KING OF COMEDY (1983)

There’s something about show business that attracts the most delusional, self-absorbed and borderline-psychotic of people.  We’ve all seen the lurid tabloid headlines about the bizarre behavior exhibited by celebrities, as if being rich and famous were a license to flagrantly disregard any semblance of normal social standards and decency. 

Perhaps even more interesting is the behavior exhibited by those who aspire to fame but for whom success has been elusive.  One of my best friends has an acquaintance from film school that completely embodies this particularly noxious brand of ego and desperation. 

His social media posts are single-mindedly about his meetings with studio heads to direct the next installment of a major franchise, or his interactions with A-list celebrities that consist of nothing but said celebrity’s effusive praise for his genius and unparalleled talent.  That’s a pretty remarkable career for a guy without even an IMDB page to his name, let alone a single film. 

His boasts are almost reckless in their falseness, yet he broadcasts them widely to his social media audience as if it were truth.  Nothing can ever truly prepare someone for encountering that kind of wanton delusion in the real world.  Judging by the reception of THE KING OF COMEDY (1983)– director Martin Scorsese’s follow-up to his career comeback RAGING BULL (1980)—we apparently don’t even know how to deal with that delusion in a fictional world. 

After the success of 1980’s RAGING BULL, Scorsese wanted to focus on a passion project he had developed for quite some time—a radical take on Jesus Christ and his crucifixion called THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST, starring Robert De Niro as the titular Son Of God.  De Niro didn’t greet the touchy subject matter as enthusiastically as Scorsese, and instead suggested the idea of doing a comedy together. 

He reminded Scorsese of a script he had brought to the director’s attention way back in 1974—a script by film critic Paul D. Zimmerman titled THE KING OF COMEDY

Back then, Scorsese found that he couldn’t really connect with the material, but in the tumultuous years that followed—years that would see him skyrocket to fame with 1976’s TAXI DRIVER, then nearly lose everything from overindulging in eccentric projects and substance abuse, only to then reinstall himself at the top of the art form with RAGING BULL—Scorsese had gained a lifetime’s worth of experience in the trappings of fame, suddenly finding the content of THE KING OF COMEDY much more relatable. 

Scorsese and De Niro’s explosive collaborative chemistry had fueled each other’s careers to ever-loftier heights, but 1983’s THE KING OF COMEDY would slow their ascent to an abrupt halt with its disappointing reception.  It would be their last collaboration for seven years.  Despite the film’s perceived failure, the quality of Scorsese and De Niro’s work has endured, and THE KING OF COMEDY is now regarded as something of a minor masterpiece in the director’s filmography—a grand satire of fame, ambition, and the ravenous appetite of the media. 

As Scorsese’s first outright comedy, THE KING OF COMEDY doesn’t try so much for hearty belly laughs as it does for the nervous laughter elicited in awkward situations we’d rather escape.  Rupert Pupkin (De Niro) is an aspiring comedian—emphasis on “aspiring”. 

He’s currently living in his mother’s basement in an outer borough of New York City, and completely preoccupied with meeting his idol, a Johnny Carson-type late night show host named Jerry Langford (Jerry Lewis).  One night, he finally succeeds by saving Jerry from the other rabid fans outside the stage door, throwing himself into the getaway limousine as it speeds away. 

Finally face to face with his idol, he does what most desperate wannabe’s do—immediately pitch his act.  Jerry brushes Rupert off in the worst way possible; he tells him to call his assistant to set up an appointment to listen to his act, assuming that Rupert will never actually follow up. 

Much to the chagrin of Jerry and his employees, Rupert dutifully (and repeatedly) shows up to the show’s offices until he has to be thrown out of the building by security.  Undeterred by this minor “mishap”, Rupert continues his bid for Jerry’s attention, indulging in fantasies wherein he and Jerry are best friends. 

His daydreams grow increasingly more delusional, with Jerry praising Rupert’s act as nothing short of revolutionary and inviting him out to his house in the Hamptons for the weekend.  The extent of Rupert’s disconnect from reality becomes painfully apparent to everyone around him when he actually shows up at Jerry’s Hamptons house unannounced. 

Feeling that his “friendship” with Jerry is slipping away, and by extension his chance for his big debut on Jerry’s show, Rupert concocts a last-ditch scheme to launch his career by kidnapping Jerry and leveraging his hostage for a spot delivering the opening monologue on the show.    

In his old age, De Niro has tried to soften his tough guy image by appearing in comedies like MEET THE PARENTS (2000), so one could look at THE KING OF COMEDY as the beginning of De Niro’s desire to try his hand at comedic roles.

  As the wannabe fanatic Rupert Pupkin, De Niro excels at projecting a disturbingly needy and desperate vibe—the complete opposite of the aloof tough guys he played in previous collaborations with Scorsese.  This complete lack of machismo and posturing on De Niro’s part results in an unforgettable performance that Scorsese reportedly considers the actor’s best within their own work together.

THE KING OF COMEDY would serve as De Niro’s last appearance in a Scorsese film until 1990’s GOODFELLAS, a development that the director attributes to the uncomfortable nature of the story and the subsequent difficulty in shooting said uncomfortable moments.  Real-life comedian Jerry Lewis plays the object of Pupkin’s idolatry- the conceited and egotistical Jerry Langford.  Lewis has a reputation for being somewhat of a dick, so naturally he excels at capturing the authenticity of an impatient, rich asshole here. 

De Niro’s then-wife, Diahnne Abbot, plays Rita—a bartender and a romantic interest for Rupert.  Abbot is for all intents and purposes the straight character, giving a grounded performance that establishes perspective for the delusionary characters that populate the film. 

While she had cameos in a couple of Scorsese’s films previously (most notably as a lounge singer in 1977’s NEW YORK, NEW YORK), her performance in THE KING OF COMEDY is the first real instance of substantial screen time in a Scorsese film.   Sandra Bernhard plays Masha, a contentious friend of Rupert’s and a fellow nutbag with a dangerous, unpredictable edge. 

Additionally, THE KING OF COMEDY features brief appearances by Scorsese’s friends and family—both of his parents make respective cameos, with mother Catherine as Rupert’s heard-but-not-seen mother and father Charles as a patron at the bar.  Scorsese’ longtime writing partner Mardik Martin also makes an appearance at the same bar, and NEW YORK, NEW YORK’s Liza Minnelli appears in cardboard cutout form in Rupert’s basement apartment.  Finally, Scorsese himself appears briefly as a television director for Jerry’s show. 

THE KING OF COMEDY greatly deviates from the established Scorsese “look”– that signature blend of grit, immediacy, and lurid color– opting instead for a straightforward, unadorned look.  For whatever reason, Scorsese’s regular cinematographer Michael Chapman is absent from the proceedings, replaced by director of photography Fred Schuler. 

Like most comedies, Scorsese emphasizes broad, even lighting and wide compositions to better capture the physical comedy on display.  THE KING OF COMEDY makes no distinction between Pupkin’s humdrum, everyday existence and the ego-stroking daydreams he indulges in; indeed, the fantasy sequences are presented so mundanely they often feel more realistic than the grounded sequences. 

Whereas works like 1973’s MEAN STREETS and RAGING BULL spliced 8mm color home movie footage into the 35mm presentation, THE KING OF COMEDY marks an early acknowledgement of the aesthetic of television video.  For the opening of the film as well as Rupert Pupkin’s big monologue delivery, Scorsese shot these sequences on broadcast video, the medium’s scratchy fuzziness standing in stark contrast to the crisp film visuals. 

The rise of Steadicam in the early 80’s also allows Scorsese to experiment with long takes and sustained camera movement, often walking with characters for extended charges down the long Manhattan boulevards.  The absurdity of the film’s humor is balanced with a straightforward, non-flashy edit by Thelma Schoonmaker, a key creative partner of Scorsese’s. 

At first glance, THE KING OF COMEDY seeks like an odd choice of project for Scorsese to take on.  There’s no swaggering masculinity, no Catholic imagery, no room for popular rock songs, or insights into the Italian American experience.  On a surface level, the film’s setting of New York City and the participation of De Niro are the only markers of Scorsese’s participation. 

However, closer inspection reveals the presence of a few more directorial trademarks, like the depiction of chaotic street life in the form of rabid, screaming fans and autograph hounds lurking outside the backstage door of Jerry’s show.

Scorsese’s filmography is also characterized by protagonists who are thugs, miscreants and lowlifes—Pupkin may not be a thug per se, but he’s most certainly a lowlife, dwelling haplessly at the bottom of the New York food chain, and he’ll have to resort to illegal means if he’s going to stand a shot at achieving his own version of the American Dream.    

THE KING OF COMEDY proved something of yet another career setback for Scorsese, who had previously been riding high on the success of RAGING BULL.  The film was a flop at the box office, with many people turned off by the awkward, uncomfortable nature of the comedy. 

They might not have understood how a film this “unpleasant” would be nominated for the prestigious Palm d’Or at that year’s Cannes Film Festival, but as the years have passed, the Cannes jury’s judgment would prove itself as remarkably ahead of its time.  THE KING OF COMEDY has aged surprisingly well, growing in appreciation and critical regard over the years as an underrated gem within Scorsese’s filmography. 

Scorsese’s “uncomfortable” satire has proved eerily prescient, predicting our media-saturated, celebrity-obsessed age, where anyone can become famous despite a total lack of talent or conviction.  As long as there’s a little a little Rupert Pupkin inside all of us, THE KING OF COMEDY will endure as one of Scorsese’s most relevant achievements. 


AFTER HOURS (1985)

The 1980’s was a turbulent decade for director Martin Scorsese—he kicked things off in high form with RAGING BULL (1980), overcoming a substance abuse problem that had nearly killed him and regaining his artistic relevancy in the process.  However, the rest of the decade would not be so kind to him.  He began to move away from the kind of projects that made his name (gritty urban crime dramas) and explored other avenues like comedic features (1983’s THE KING OF COMEDY), television, and music videos. 

All the while, he was feverishly developing his true follow-up to RAGING BULL, a passion project called THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST.  Shortly after the release of THE KING OF COMEDY, it looked like Scorsese would have his shot to make his dream film.  He had his cast assembled and funding secured, and had even gone out to Morocco to scout locations.  However, it all came crashing down when the studio called Scorsese on Thanksgiving Day (of all days) to inform him they had abruptly pulled the plug. 

Scorsese had just turned forty, firmly crossing the barrier into middle age.  Now that his longtime passion project was dead, he was at a crucial crossroads in his career.  What kind of filmmaker did he want to be?  Were his best days, his best films, already behind him?  Would the legacy he left be one of a swift rise to glory followed by excruciating decline? 

It was at this time that his old MEAN STREETS (1973) star, Amy Robinson, contacted him with a project she was producing with her partner Griffin Dunne.  She had a script called AFTER HOURS, written by a recent Columbia University graduate named Joseph Minion for his student thesis. 

On a surface level, it seemed an odd choice for an Oscar-nominated director to adapt a script by a fresh-faced kid straight out of film school, but THE KING OF COMEDY had just bombed and the struggling director would try almost anything to get out of his current rut.  He saw in AFTER HOURS an opportunity to return to his independent roots, using the mobility afforded by a small budget and crew to creatively reinvent himself. 

In a way, it was almost like he was going back to school—only it wasn’t his grade that was at stake, it was his career.

Paul Hackett (Griffin Dunne) is a mild-mannered word processor content to live out his days at the office and his nights inside of his well-appointed (but personality-devoid apartment) in Manhattan.  One night, he decides to break up the routine by going out to eat at a local coffee shop—a decision that he could never have guessed would have absurdly outrageous consequences. 

He strikes up an innocent conversation with a pretty blonde a few tables over named Marcy Franklin (Rosanna Arquette).  She indirectly invites him over to her apartment by giving him the number of her roommate, a local artist specializing in plaster paperweights—a product which Paul feigns some interest in.  As soon as he returns to his apartment, Paul arranges to come over to her loft to “see the artist’s work”. 

However, once he finally arrives in the unfamiliar neighborhood of Soho and starts getting to know Marcy, he decides that they aren’t exactly a great fit for each other.  He tries to sneak out, beginning a cascading chain of events that will see him dodging the varied, colorful characters of the neighborhood and a series of absurd scenarios that no ordinary man could possibly encounter in the course of one night.  He just wants to get home to his cozy apartment uptown, but as he finds out, that will prove to be a task far more difficult and dangerous than he ever thought possible. 

In keeping with the “reinvention” conceit that he applied to the production of the film, Scorsese mostly dispenses with his habit of re-using actors from previous projects– including Robert De Niro.   Indeed, the only familiar faces in AFTER HOURS include Victor Argo and Verna Bloom in a pair of unremarkable cameos. 

Griffin Dunne proves himself a Scorsese protagonist of an entirely different kind– a reactive yuppie and beta male fine-tuned for the Wall Street-obsessed New York of the Reagan era.  Rosanna Arquette equally embodies the classic Scorsese blonde archetype retooled for a brave new world characterized by prescription medication and open acknowledgment of mental health issues. 

The rest of the cast is populated by the bizarre, mysterious characters that Griffin’s Paul Hackett encounters over the night, the most notable of which being Linda Fiorentino’s punk sculptor/artist Kiki Bridges and stoner comedy duo Cheech and Chong as a pair of burglars stalking the neighborhood in their junk-filled van.  

As appropriate for a scrappy, low-budget feature, the cinematography of AFTER HOURS is quick on its feet and unburdened by cumbersome equipment that would’ve been employed to sell a sense of scale.  AFTER HOURS marks the first collaboration between Scorsese and cinematographer Michael Ballhaus, who would go on to lens a majority of Scorsese’s future works. 

Scorsese’s camerawork has always been dynamic, but in AFTER HOURS the camera threatens to run off the rails entirely, giving the film a reckless energy that’s aided and abetted by the mobility of the Steadicam.  With the exception of the bookending sequences in Paul’s office, the film takes place entirely at night, so Scorsese and Ballhaus adopt a high contrast lighting scheme to better convey the lurid colors of Soho—providing a marked contrast to Paul’s drab, beige apartment.

  This aesthetic dichotomy (that of young urban professional against urban bohemian artist) illustrates a major theme of AFTER HOURS, which is the convergence and collision of subcultures that marks the vitality and unpredictability of living in New York City.  Scorsese’s regular editor, Thelma Schoonmaker, returns to lend her talents to AFTER HOURS, creating an unrelenting pace that drives our wearied, haggard protagonist ever forward with nary a chance to catch his breath. 

Revered composer Howard Shore, who would become a regular collaborator of Scorsese’s during his string of works in the early 2000’s, establishes his relationship with the director here in AFTER HOURS with a score marked by an electronic synthesizer and the propulsive percussion of a ticking clock. 

This being a Scorsese film, AFTER HOURS naturally makes potent use of an eclectic mix of needledrop cues ranging from classical, mariachi, jukebox rock, and punk.  This diverse musical landscape cannily reflects the film’s focus on the collision of radically different subcultures that New York City enables.

The early 80’s marked a period of Scorsese’s career in which he experimented with different aesthetic and filmmaking techniques, exploring his range as an artist and branching out into new genres.  AFTER HOURS is much more of an outright comedy than the pitch-black farce of THE KING OF COMEDY, yet it still retains some of the qualities that signify Scorsese’s vision—the requisite New York city setting, the explosive chaos of urban life, and the messiness of passionate violence (like the scene where Paul witnesses the murder of a husband by his wife in the apartment across the street, via several angry bullets delivered haphazardly into his abdomen). 

Despite these consistencies with Scorsese’s aesthetic, AFTER HOURS deviates greatly from other thematic conceits like the exploration of the Italian experience in America and protagonists who deal heavily in crime.  In a stark contrast from films like MEAN STREETS and RAGING BULL, the protagonist of AFTER HOURS is not a thug—rather, he’s a well-adjusted yuppie who’s main goal in life is to not rock the boat.  

The story’s developments constantly seek to emasculate him, so Paul Hackett’s growth trajectory becomes reliant on him taking charge of his own masculinity—an idea that falls in line with Scorsese’s career-long exploration of masculinity as an engine of conflict and drama.    

AFTER HOURS marks the end of a curious comedic phase of Scorsese’s career, managing to end said phase on a high note after the disappointment of THE KING OF COMEDY.  By embracing his indie roots and scaling back his approach, Scorsese was able to rejuvenate himself creatively while delivering a lifesaving jolt of electricity to his career. 

A warm reception at the Cannes film festival resulted in an award for Best Director, and while it may not have gotten any Oscar love, AFTER HOURS took home top honors (Best Feature and Director) at the indie sector’s equivalent gala, The Independent Spirit Awards. 

Today, AFTER HOURS is something of a cult favorite amongst Scorsese’s followers, and while it may not rank among his most significant works, it is significant in the context of his filmography for re-establishing his value in the minds of Hollywood executives and giving him another shot at realizing his longtime passion project, THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST

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AMAZING STORIES: MIRROR, MIRROR (1986)

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The mid-1980’s saw director Martin Scorsese experiencing a bit of a rough patch in terms of his career, with his attempts to branch out and experiment with his aesthetic largely falling flat.  When his 1985 independent feature AFTER HOURS experienced modest success, he was able to pull out of his tailspin and right himself.  In a bid to get more work under his belt, Scorsese would turn to the realm of television for the first time. 

That same year, Scorsese’s contemporary Steven Spielberg had launched an anthology television series called AMAZING STORIES.  Over the course of the show’s short run, it would feature contributions by several key members of the Film Brat generation of filmmakers, with Scorsese in particular adapting a story by Spielberg himself that was further fashioned into a screenplay by AFTER HOURS screenwriter Joseph Minion. 

Titled “MIRROR, MIRROR”, Scorsese’s episode of AMAZING STORIES finds him tackling the horror genre for the first time.  Actor Sam Waterston plays Jordan Manmouth, a successful and famous horror novelist who doesn’t actually believe in any of the spooky hokum he peddles. 

That is, of course, until he starts seeing a mysterious black-clad phantom (played by Tim Robbins, randomly) lurking behind his reflection in the mirror.  As the intensity of the phantom’s mirror appearances mount, he spirals into terror and insanity.  But is the phantom really out to get him, or is it just another product of his overactive imagination?

After the goofy opening credits featuring positively prehistoric CGI, “MIRROR, MIRROR” unfolds primarily under the harsh light of day—a curious choice for an otherwise gothic tale that would be right at home among the works of Edgar Allan Poe. 

Due to the producer-centric model of television at the time, Scorsese doesn’t have as much creative leeway here as he does in his feature work, rendering the story instead with a straightforward, rather unremarkable look.  This approach is reinforced by production designer and regular Spielberg collaborator Rick Carter’s set design, which paints Jordan’s suburban house in the hills in a modern, yet sterile white patina that feels more like a museum than a home.   

“MIRROR, MIRROR” is a fairly anonymous piece of work, bearing almost no evidence of Scorsese’s hand at all except for surface things like the presence of his regular background actor Harry Northup in one scene as a security guard, or the open acknowledgment by the characters of movie culture. 

The appearance of Robbins’ phantom plays into this, resembling Lon Cheney’s frightening visage in the iconic Universal silent monster film, THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA (1925).  As Scorsese’s first stab at the horror genre, “MIRROR, MIRROR” is a fairly effective chiller, but it doesn’t show a great deal of growth, artistically speaking. 

However, his participation with the medium of television would recapture the attention of Hollywood executives, who would give him the opportunity to reclaim cinematic glory before the close of the decade.


THE COLOR OF MONEY (1986)

The modest success of 1985’s independent comedy AFTER HOURS, as well as a detour into episodic television with 1986’s AMAZING STORIES brought director Martin Scorsese back to the attention of Hollywood studio executives following a long rough patch.  Scorsese’s career had been flying through severe turbulence since the disappointing reception of 1977’s NEW YORK, NEW YORK, but the surprise success of 1980’s RAGING BULL proved that Scorsese still had untapped brilliance to spare.

The same year that Scorsese delivered his AMAZING STORIES episode, he was given another shot at a big time feature, but it wasn’t an original work developed by the director himself.  It was a sequel to 1961’s THE HUSTLER, with Hollywood icon Paul Newman attached to reprise his seminal role of Fast Eddie Nelson in a story set a quarter of a century after the original.

  Titled THE COLOR OF MONEY (1986), the film was written by Richard Price and produced by Irving Axelrad and Barbara De Fina, who saw in Scorsese an unexpected, yet highly inspired match for their material.  THE COLOR OF MONEY was moderately successful in its day, and even earned Paul Newman a long-overdue Oscar.  Today, it’s a forgotten work within Scorsese’s canon, eclipsed by far greater films.

The legacy of the film itself may not be much to sneeze at, but THE COLOR OF MONEY is important nonetheless for giving Scorsese the strong foothold he needed to launch his career’s second act.

Set twenty-five years after the events of THE HUSTLER, THE COLOR OF MONEY finds notorious pool shark Fast Eddie Nelson (Newman) living somewhere outside Chicago.  He’s long since given up pool, scraping out a meager living hawking knockoff liquor instead—but he’s not removed from the sport entirely.

He grooms promising young men with the hopes they’ll become profitable hustlers like he once was, pocketing a share of their earnings in compensation for his mentorship.  In a dive bar in a neglected section of town, Eddie encounters a young hotshot pool player named Vincent Lauria (Tom Cruise).

Impressed by his raw talent, he encourages Vincent to quit his dead-end sales job and hit the road with him, where he’ll teach him how to be a true hustler.  Thus begins something of a road picture, whereby Eddie, Vincent, and Vincent’s girlfriend/manager Carmen (Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio) drive down towards Atlantic City, taking every hapless sucker for the contents of their wallet every stop along the way.

Eddie and Vincent’s partnership is not without conflict, however—one of Eddie’s key strategies is losing on purpose, a skill that Vincent’s pride and stubbornness rails against.  Causing further chafe-age is the possibility that Vincent might actually be a better pool player than the aging Eddie—a possibility that will be put to the test when they go head to head against each other during a large pool tournament in Atlantic City.

Scorsese’s history of working with star-name actors is somewhat funny, as we tend to think that he’s always done so.  It’s easy to forget that Scorsese helped to discover Robert De Niro and turn him into a major Hollywood player.  THE COLOR OF MONEY, made nearly twenty years into his filmmaking career, marks Scorsese’s first time working with a true Hollywood superstar in the form of Paul Newman.

Newman is highly effective in his reprisal of one of his most iconic roles, Fast Eddie Nelson.  His seasoned, autumnal countenance provides countless layers of depth to what could otherwise be a stock “mentor drawn out of retirement” archetype.  Newman’s nuanced performance would result in his first win for Best Actor—a win that many in the industry dismissed as a life achievement award rather than recognition of his particular performance in the film.

Tom Cruise, who of course is now a Hollywood superstar all his own, was cast by Scorsese right before his national profile soared in the wake of Tony Scott’s TOP GUN that same year.  Cruise is a natural fit as Vincent Lauria- the untamed, passionate hotshot with an equally untamed bouffant.  His pride can’t compensate for his naiveté, making him the perfect foil to Newman’s wizened, humbled old-time pool shark.

While the film is framed as a battle of wits and will between these two men, THE COLOR OF MONEY sheds some light on interesting periphery characters, such as Carmen (Mastrantonio), Vincent’s street-smart girlfriend who we come to suspect might just be conning Vincent herself, or Helen Shaver as Jannelle, an aging cocktail waitress and Eddie’s on-again, off-again love interest.

Notable characters actors John Turturro and Forest Whitaker make early career appearances in the film as a failed hustler protégé of Eddie’s and a small-time hustler who manages to con Eddie, respectively.  Scorsese’s tendency to appear in his own films also manifests here in the form of a voiceover during the opening credits whereby he explains the game of Nine-Ball—a variant on classic pool that the characters play almost exclusively throughout the film.

Scorsese reunites with cinematographer Michael Ballhaus to create a look that is, admittedly, not very appealing.  The entire 35mm film image is awash in a drab, grey color palette that evokes the cold winters of the Midwest as well as the cigarette haze of cave-like dive bars.  Scorsese and Ballhaus counter this unappealing look with delirious camerawork and dynamic compositions.

There’s an unrelenting sense of energy, with the camera constantly whip-panning to new tableaus, or screaming forward with a rack zoom onto pool balls scattered around the table.  Indeed, Scorsese’s expressionistic rendering of the game of pool (artfully strung together by longtime editor Thelma Schoonmaker) takes a similar approach to the dreamlike boxing sequences in his other big sports film, RAGING BULL.

Whereas RAGING BULL tended to emphasize the increasingly diminutive size of boxer Jake La Motta in contrast to his opponent or the ring itself, THE COLOR OF MONEYtakes the opposite approach: distorting the pool balls into titanic spheres tumbling around a tiny arena.

The Band frontman and music supervisor Robbie Robertson once again collaborates with Scorsese, generating a bluesy score as well as sourcing an eclectic mix of needledrops like rock, blues, opera, and jazz.  The effect is an energy that’s much more breathless and lively than a film about pool could ever reasonably hope to have.

Despite THE COLOR OF MONEY ostentatiously being a work-for-hire, Scorsese seizes the opportunity to stamp his distinct imprint on the material.  As a result, the film falls right in line with Scorsese’s other examinations of dishonest men as protagonists, as well as the particular brand of conflict that arises from masculine pride and posturing.  Of course, this being a Scorsese film, the violence is messy, chaotic and unpredictable.

THE COLOR OF MONEY’s third act concerns Eddie reawakening his talents at pool and mounting a comeback, ending with his victorious proclamation that whether he wins or loses, “I’m back!”.  The same sentiment can said of Scorsese, who was able to mount something of a comeback himself– thus pulling out of the funk that had hung over his work for nearly a decade.

The film’s modest success and Oscar win for Newman was enough to re-establish Scorsese’s viability as a commercial filmmaker, paving the way for a new act in his career that would not only see his longtime passion project, THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST, finally realized, but his prestige and importance to the world cinema stage grow exponentially.


MUSIC VIDEOS (1986-1988)

The moderate success of 1986’s THE COLOR OF MONEY gave director Martin Scorsese the leverage he needed to finally put his longtime passion project THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST into production.  Before the latter film would be realized, however, Scorsese’s rediscovered value as a filmmaker led to two music videos for some of the biggest names in music at the time—the late Michael Jackson and former The Band frontman Robbie Robertson.

MICHAEL JACKSON: “BAD” (1986)

Scorsese’s music video for “BAD” is arguably Michael Jackson’s highest profile music video, second only to John Landis’ groundbreaking video for “Thriller”.  The video is set underground in an archetypical New York City subway station while Jackson and his tough-looking friends aggressively dance around and mean-mug to the camera.

Scorsese’s hand is very evident in the video—not just in the NYC setting but in the dynamic camera movement, which incorporates a series of whip-pans, zooms, dolly, and Steadicam moves to match Jackson’s explosive footwork.

One very interesting aspect about the video is Scorsese’s decision to incorporate production sound into the video.  We can actually hear the chains of Jackson’s outfit clank together, boots scuffling along the concrete, and the guttural yells from the dancers.  The overall effect is a liveliness and sense of presence that’s missing from the grand majority of conventional music videos.

“BAD” is perhaps Scorsese’s best-known work within the music video genre, and it is still highly regarded today as one of the best ever made.  However, like other pop culture artifacts of the 1980’s, the video contains none of the timelessness of Scorsese’s feature work.  While Jackson’s cadre of backup dancers might have passed for intimidating, tough street hoods in 1986, today it just looks like Jackson is hosting a leather daddy party.

ROBBIE ROBERTSON- “SOMEWHERE DOWN THE CRAZY RIVER” (1988)

Scorsese and Robbie Robertson have had a long, fruitful working relationship for many years, going all the way back to their concert film THE LAST WALTZ (1978)—so when Robbie Robertson released his new single “Somewhere Down The Crazy River”, hiring Scorsese to direct the music video must have seemed like a no-brainer.

“SOMEWHERE DOWN THE CRAZY RIVER” is a minimalist performance piece, with Robertson singing and speaking to camera while he stands against a series of stylized one-color backdrops.  The lighting is very theatrical, washing over Robertson with bold, glowing color (and alternately framing him in silhouette).

Besides Robertson’s presence, the only other thing that suggests Scorsese’s hand is the appearance of a blonde woman wearing white, which we should recognize as one of Scorsese’s most-visible tropes in his narrative feature work.

Ultimately, the video is rather forgettable, as is the song.  If it does manages to stick in the mind, it can probably be attributed to the creepy, sexually over-aggressive vibe Robertson gives off, akin to a dirty old man undressing you with his eyes.


THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST (1988)

From the years 2000-2004, I went to a Catholic high school whose ministries were overseen by a group of Jesuit priests.  It was an interesting time for Catholic education, as it was when Mel Gibson’s controversial film THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST (2004) was released.  The film caused an uproar over its focus on the gory details of Jesus’ crucifixion—a fascination that brought the film to the brink of the torture porn genre.

As a hardcore conservative and member of a controversial sect of Christianity, Gibson’s aim was to present a very literal interpretation of Jesus’ sacrifice, using the actual language of the time and showcasing the true brutality of crucifixion in a misguided bid for “authenticity”.  This approach proved incredibly divisive, with conservatives and evangelicals hailing it as if it were the literal Second Coming of Christ.

The release of the film caused me to realize that my Catholic high school was actually quite liberal—our priests-in-residence railed against the film during their homilies, calling it out as a single-minded bloodbath.  They maintained that faith doesn’t deal in absolutes; it’s not about blindly following ideology and dogma.

True faith means questioning your beliefs—digging deeper, enriching it through other interpretations and personal experience.  This is why a film like THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST is ultimately so ineffective, and why an equally controversial film like Martin Scorsese’s THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST (1988) endures through the ages.

Scorsese’ film takes the opposite tack—depicting Jesus as both fully human and fully divine.   The film (and the book it was based on) serves as likely the first time that anyone dared to really examine Jesus’ humanity—by showing us his naked thoughts, doubts, and hopes, the figure of Jesus as well as his teachings suddenly become very tangible, real, and relevant.  Ironically, exploring Jesus’ humanity also makes his inherent divinity all the more powerful.

Jesus’ teachings played a hugely influential role in Scorsese’s development as a young man.  His Roman Catholic and Italian backgrounds compelled him to be devout in his beliefs, to the point that he had even considered pursuing a profession in the priesthood.  Even when he decided that he would become a filmmaker instead, a project about Jesus’ life never remained far from his list of dream projects.

The idea existed as a vague, remote notion until the production of Scorsese’s second feature film, BOXCAR BERTHA (1972).  He was given a copy of Nikos Kazantzakis’ book, “The Last Temptation Of Christ” by the film’s star, Barbara Hershey, under the condition that she would be cast as Mary Magdalene if he ever made the film one day.  Scorsese latched on to the idea of a film exploring Jesus’ humanity from an angle never before portrayed, and after a few more projects were under his belt, he hired his TAXI DRIVER (1976) screenwriter Paul Schrader to adapt the book into a screenplay.

This inadvertently began a long stretch of development hell and false starts that would prevent the film from being realized for nearly another decade.  THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST was supposed to follow the making of 1982’s THE KING OF COMEDY, with Aidan Quinn starring as Jesus—but the original studio could not reconcile the film’s required budget with the risk of its anticipated reception, so it abruptly cancelled the film just prior to the start of shooting.

Scorsese was understandably depressed over the cancellation of his longtime passion project, but he channeled his energies into the production of other projects.  After the surprise success of 1985’s AFTER HOURS, Universal stepped into the fray and offered Scorsese the chance to finally make THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST under the provision that he also shoot a commercial film for them (1991’s CAPE FEAR).

  It was under these circumstances that Scorsese finally found himself in the fall of 1987 in Morocco, realizing a project he had dreamed about since childhood—a project that would become one of the most seminal, heartfelt films of his career.

We all know the story of Jesus Christ from Nazareth—the man who preached about God’s will and unconditional love and was subsequently branded as a blasphemer by his own people, crucified by the Romans, and rose from the dead three days later to prove his divinity.  There’s a reason it’s known as The Greatest Story Ever Told—it’s one of the most well known stories throughout the entire history of humanity.

THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST tells this same story, but from a radically new perspective.  Jesus (Willem Dafoe) is a Jewish crossmaker who suffers from debilitating headaches and terrifying voices inside his head.  Scorsese doesn’t put Jesus up on a pedestal—he brings us right into Jesus’ head and lets us hear his own internal monologue as he wrestles with his faith and his doubts about his destiny.

When his good friend Judas (Harvey Keitel) rather forcefully demands that he follow his heart and begin preaching a radically new interpretation of God (one that eschews the fire and brimstone of the Old Testament in favor of a friendlier, unconditionally loving deity), Jesus finds himself cultivating a humble–yet steadily growing– following.

He finally accepts his destiny and agrees to be sacrificed on the cross in order to absolve humanity of sin, but it’s not until he’s actually up on that cross that the story diverges greatly from the established gospels.  He is greeted by an angel in the form of a young girl, who brings him down from the cross and takes him to be married to his lifelong love, Mary Magdalene (Hershey).

He is told that all of his suffering was simply a test, and his reward is a normal human life with a wife and children.  He grows old, begetting many sons and daughters, but upon his deathbed, he realizes that the angel may have actually been Satan in disguise, and in his selfish pursuit of happiness and normalcy, he has unwittingly betrayed his destiny and forsaken his people.

Right off the bat, Scorsese signals that THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST isn’t your grandfather’s biblical epic.  Whereas conventional Hollywood films about biblical times would have you believe everyone spoke in British accents, Scorsese allows his actors to use their natural vocal inflections and accents—to the point that a large section of the cast sounds like they walked right out of Little Italy.

While the approach sound incongruous in principle, it’s really no less incongruous than using British accents.  On the contrary, Scorsese’s approach actually brings out a sense of truth and immediacy to the characterization while diminishing the pageantry of it all.  Willem Dafoe makes for an unexpectedly brilliant Jesus—one who is very relatable in his quiet doubt.

Far from the strong, pious image of Jesus seen in a Sunday school textbook, Dafoe’s portrayal is conflicted and frail.  Even his carpentry background is given a new complication with the revelation that he specializes in making crosses for the Romans.

Harvey Keitel had been absent from Scorsese’s frame since TAXI DRIVER, so the longtime collaborator’s gruff, self-righteous countenance is warmly welcomed here as Jesus’ friend and betrayer, Judas.  Keitel’s bright red hair matches the inner fire driving his convictions and thirst for justice, and the actor’s unquestioning love for his master provides an extremely compassionate insight into one of the most hated men in all of recorded history.

As of this writing, THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST would become the last collaboration between Scorsese and Keitel—a poignant capstone to a series of projects that propelled both men to the forefront of their respective professions.

Scorsese’s supporting cast is populated by some of the most iconic names of 70’s and 80’s cinema culture.   There is, of course, Barbara Hershey’s performance as Mary Magdalene—a prostitute and the woman who would become Jesus’ wife if he were not called a life of celibacy.

BOXCAR BERTHA saw Hershey as a pretty and carefree young girl, so it’s incredibly striking to see her next collaboration with Scorsese blossom into a performance that’s world-weary and hardened.  Verna Bloom, another longtime collaborator of Scorsese’s who had previously appeared in AFTER HOURS, plays Mary the mother of Jesus.  Bloom’s Mary is frail and stricken with grief—a far cry from the traditional image of The Virgin Mary that adorns stain glass windows and paintings.

Victor Argo, who up until this point had been content to appear in small cameos throughout Scorsese’s work, is given a big job in the form of Jesus’ most famous apostle, Peter—a job that Argo handles quietly, yet powerfully.  Harry Dean Stanton plays Saul, the murderous zealot turned prophet of Christianity, while THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK (1980) director Irving Kershner pops up as one of Jesus’ earliest and most curmudgeonly followers.

Finally, there’s David Bowie as the infamous Roman judge, Pontius Pilate.  Bowie’s slender, androgynous physicality lends an urbane and sophisticated touch to yet another well-trodden biblical character.

In order to shoot THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST, Scorsese and company had to make sacrifices in their budget.  This meant a scaled-back shooting aesthetic, but fortunately the minimalistic look works in the film’s favor.  Scorsese reteams with cinematographer Michael Ballhaus to recreate the warm, dusty landscapes of ancient Jerusalem, with the locations carefully chosen to convey a great degree of grit and immediacy.

Scorsese is able to retain the use of dynamic camera work, with the mobility of the Steadicam rig affording him the ability to convey delirious energy and movement despite limited time and resources.  Longtime editing partner Thelma Schoonmaker weaves it all together in expectedly brilliant fashion against Peter Gabriel’s groundbreaking New Age score, which combines the ancient character of the old world with contemporary rock percussion that sounds like a prehistoric antecedent to Phil Spector’s Wall Of Sound.

The incorporation of seminal rock figures like Gabriel and Bowie points to Scorsese’s inherent love of the musical genre while taking some out of the piss out of the conventional Hollywood bible epic genre.

As Scorsese’s longtime passion project, THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST understandably bears the director’s mark quite heavily.  His filmography is littered with disadvantaged, sometime-criminal protagonists grappling with matters of faith and religion while navigating the unpredictable chaos of urban life.

His career-long incorporation of Roman Catholic dogma, imagery and behavioral practices (such as self-flagellation) goes right to the source in THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST, examining the genesis of Catholic ideas and iconography while underscoring their inherent meaning in a modern context.

Instead of a community of Roman Catholic Italian Americans attempting to eke out an existence under the established dominance of Protestant Anglo-Saxons, we are presented with a community of Jews scraping by under the watchful eye of the ancient Roman Empire.

Jesus in particular can be seen as a lowlife among lowlifes—he is a Jewish man making crosses for a foreign authority that will turn around and hang his own people up on his creations.  This causes significant discord between Jesus and his friend Judas, who deplores Jesus’ work as an act of betrayal.  Indeed, much of the film’s dramatic weight hinges on the interplay between Jesus and Judas.

Their conflicting ideologies represent the core sentiments of their respective Testaments; Judas represents the bloody righteousness of the Old Testament while Jesus puts forth the idea of a new covenant between God and his people based on love, acceptance, and forgiveness.

One of the film’s more striking directorial signatures plays into Scorsese’s membership in the New Hollywood school of filmmaking—a generation that embraced the medium of film directly into their work in a decidedly postmodern fashion.  For instance, the film is infamous for its last shot, which is a close-up on Jesus delirious with relief and shouting, “It is accomplished!” shortly before dying on the cross.

The music builds into a crescendo as the frame itself bursts into a series of colors that imply his glorious entrance into the afterlife.  In reality, this is actually a severe light leak happening in-camera and overexposing the film.  A very technical and common occurrence, yes, but one has to admit that the timing is incredibly fortuitous.  Scorsese chose to leave this “happy accident” in, taking advantage of the medium’s particular quirks to help tell his story.

THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST was a lifelong labor of love for Scorsese, one that caused many years of grief and heartbreak in his attempt to realize his vision onscreen.  It is one of his most significant achievements– a fact that the Academy recognized when it nominated him for a Best Director Oscar later that year.

The film is remembered as violently controversial still to this day, the irony being that those spewing the most venom haven’t actually bothered to see the film itself.  Admittedly, a film that dares to show Jesus in the act of sexual intercourse with a woman is, suffice to say, going to be met with a great deal of controversy—but there’s no way Scorsese could have anticipated the level of furor that greeted the release of his film.

Forget the pearl clutching and condemnation from America’s pulpits— the global Catholic community was so outraged by the film’s existence that some individuals took to radical forms of protest.  For instance, a fundamentalist sect reportedly torched a Parisian cinema during a film screening.  This film is still banned in some countries.

In the long run, all this outrage has amounted to little more than white noise.  Time has revealed THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST for what it is:  a respectful examination of Jesus’ life and teachings that refuses to pander to blind ideology.  It’s a responsible, thought-provoking look into Jesus’ humanity that’s more relevant to modern Christianity than anything Kirk Cameron is currently hawking.

THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST is a triumph of passion and perseverance for Scorsese, and by creating an intimate reflection of Jesus as a man just like us—a man besieged by doubt, regret and fear—he has invited us into the most intimate aspects of his own life and worldview.


NEW YORK STORIES: LIFE LESSONS (1989)

The Film Brat generation of filmmakers—directors of the Baby Boomer persuasion like Martin Scorsese, Francis Ford Coppola, George Lucas, and Steven Spielberg—can be credited for popularizing the idea of filmmaking in the context of a social community.  This could be credited due to their upbringing during the emergence of filmmaking as an area of academic collegiate study.

Their close personal friendships informed and influenced each other’s work, inspiring them to take risks with the assurance that their buddies would always have their backs.  This communal, collaborative mentality also encouraged them to join forces on projects beyond the scope of conventional narrative features.  One of these projects, 1989’s NEW YORK STORIES, was an anthology film comprised of three short works from directors with a reputation for New York-centric stories:  Francis Ford Coppola, Woody Allen, and Martin Scorsese.

Scorsese’s contribution, which opens the film, is called “LIFE LESSONS”, and follows the plight of a successful abstract paint caught in the throes of creative blockage in the wake of his lover/assistant threatening to leave him.  Written by Richard Price, the short features Nick Nolte as the aforementioned artist, Lionel Dobie.

Dobie is a revered, massively successful New York abstract painter who derives inspiration from the women in his life.  He’s got a big show coming up, but he can’t bring himself to create any work—he’s having a bit of a tussle with his live-in assistant, Paulette (Rosanna Arquette).

For a while, they had a mutually beneficial relationship—she had a place to work on her own art and a mentor who always had some helpful paternal advice about her life and career, while he had sex, comfort, and inspiration.  The trouble begins when Paulette returns from a trip home, only to reveal she didn’t actually go home—she went off on a sordid sexual affair with a young avant-garde comedian named Gregory Stark (Steve Buscemi), the kind of pretentious prick who hosts his shows in abandoned subway tunnels.

The affair didn’t end well, and Paulette has returned heartbroken and homesick.  She falls into a full-blown artistic crisis, but as her threats to give up and move out escalate, Dobie finds new creative inspiration in the turmoil—giving him the bold new work he needs for his big show and reaffirming his own creative talent.

Working with cinematographer Nestor Almendros for the first time, Scorsese gives “LIFE LESSONS” an unadorned, naturalistic look that’s complemented by an incredibly dynamic camera.  The advent of the Steadicam in the early 1980’s gave Scorsese an unprecedented freedom of movement.

He had always been inclined towards flashy, daring camerawork, but the Steadicam gave him an ease of movement that was simply impossible on a dolly or crane.  “LIFE LESSONS” also demonstrates the debut of a particular technique of Scorsese’s that I like to call the “scream-in”—a movement in which the camera rushes in on its subject (with the steadicam operator presumably running at full speed), going from a wide composition to a close-up in a deliriously forward motion.

While THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST (1988) had previously flirted with this technique, it’s in “LIFE LESSONS” that Scorsese fully incorporates the technique into his stable of visual tricks.  “LIFE LESSONS” also makes frequent use of an old-fashioned visual motif en vogue during the silent era: the iris shot, which is used to spotlight our attention on one specific detail of the frame by quite literally blacking out the rest of it.

Scorsese’s filmography is littered with casual nods and homages to notable artifacts of cinema history, so while the iris shot’s inclusion here might seem off-tone, it certainly keeps in line with Scorsese’s larger body of work.

The short anthology format, while constraining in run time, proves actually quite liberating for Scorsese, freeing him from the expectations that a studio would normally impose on him if it were a narrative feature.  The New York City setting conceit, while admittedly a recurring motif of Scorsese’s, is more so motivated by the larger ambitions of the project as a slice-of-life chronicle of The Big Apple.  

“LIFE LESSONS” is sterling example of Scorsese’s penchant for rendering a gritty, naturalistic storyline in expressionistic, colorful ways.  Working with longtime editing partner Thelma Schoonmaker, Scorsese peppers “LIFE LESSONS” with signature tropes like the introduction of the blonde female lead in slow motion, or the heavy usage of rock music, blues, and Italian opera (with a particular focus on Procol Harem’s “Whiter Shade of Pale”).

By nature of being lumped into an anthology work with other filmmakers just as well known and revered as Scorsese is, “LIFE LESSONS” is an oft-overlooked gem within the director’s filmography.  The piece’s focus on characters grappling with their own self-doubt about art is emotionally gripping—there’s a quiet drama in denying one’s inner voice for freedom and expression in favor of taking on a “rational”, non-creative occupation.

Scorsese’s own experience in this regard makes “LIFE LESSONS” all the more potent—one could easily see Nolte’s creative frustration as a fictional stand-in for Scorsese’s own soul-searching as his career collapsed around him in the mid-80’s.

Fresh off the controversial accomplishment of THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST, Scorsese’s work on “LIFE LESSONS” serves as something of a palette cleanser and creative refresher that would lead directly into his next feature—a project that would come to be seen as a masterful capstone to his career and would enshrine his reputation as one of America’s foremost filmmakers.


GOODFELLAS (1990)

Director Martin Scorsese had risen to prominence as a filmmaker primarily through his depiction of organized crime in the Italian American community in films like WHO’S THAT KNOCKING AT MY DOOR (1967) and MEAN STREETS (1973).  Naturally, while he excelled at that sort of material, he didn’t want to be pigeonholed into only making those kinds of films.

Even as his national profile soared, Scorsese vowed to never make another mafia/organized crime film again—he had already said his piece on the matter, and there was an endless assortment of new stories to tell.  However, during the production of 1986’s THE COLOR OF MONEY, Scorsese came across a book by Nicholas Pileggi called “Wise Guys”, which detailed the criminal exploits of Mafioso-turned-FBI-Informant Henry Hill.

Scorsese was fascinated by Pileggi’s authentic portrayal of life in the Mob from the perspective of the grunts on the street, and not as it was classically depicted and glorified in films like Francis Ford Coppola’s THE GODFATHER (1972).

As a young boy growing up in the Little Italy section of Manhattan, Scorsese personally witnessed the good and the bad of the mobster lifestyle—an upbringing that made him especially suitable to bring Pileggi’s book to the screen.  He enlisted Pileggi himself to collaborate on the screenplay, and reteamed with his regular producers Irwin Winkler and Barbara De Fina to set up the project with the biggest budget he had worked with to date (yet, still a modest one by mainstream Hollywood standards).

Scorsese may have reneged on his vow to never make another crime film, but the move would pay off in spades—the finished work, released in 1990 under the title GOODFELLAS— would become a seminal masterwork in the director’s career, and cement his legacy as one of cinema’s greatest artists.

GOODFELLAS tells the sprawling story of Henry Hill and his experience working for the Lucchese crime family in New York City and its surrounding suburbs from 1955-1980.  Growing up as a half Irish, half Italian kid in Brooklyn, the young Hill finds himself fascinated by the lifestyle of the Italian gangsters that populate his neighborhood.

He volunteers himself to do small odd jobs for them, and is eventually taken in under the wing of local capo Paul “Paulie” Cicero (Paul Sorvino), who teaches him how to exploit the system for quick, easy profit.  As he grows into a young man, Henry finds himself in Paulie’s inner circle—amidst the likes of contemporaries like Jimmy Conway (Robert De Niro) and Tommy DeVito (Joe Pesci), who become his closest friends and partners in crime.

They revel in the wealth that a life of crime affords them, building up homes and families of their very own.  Not content having achieved the American Dream, however, they branch out into drugs and mistresses as if they were untouchable—a delusion that is coldly shattered when they kill Billy Batts (Frank Vincent), a made man from the rival Gambino crime family, in retribution for a petty slight.

Fearing that they might get whacked by some vengeful Gambinos, they bury their secret along with Batts’ body in the country, and turn to farther-fetched grabs for money and power.  Conway orchestrates and successfully pulls off one of the biggest scores in New York history—the infamous Lufthansa Heist, netting him and his friends a cool six million.

Naturally, a quick influx of cash and a lifestyle suited towards the lavish spending of it doesn’t mix well when the authorities are watching your every move.  As the weak links of his team begin to fray, Conway sets about silencing them permanently.  Hill sees the writing on the wall, and decides to rat his former friends out to the FBI in exchange for his safety in the Witness Protection Program.

GOODFELLAS marks Scorsese’s first collaboration with Robert De Niro in eight years—the two hadn’t worked together since 1983’s divisive production of THE KING OF COMEDY, so De Niro’s presence here is a welcome, and long overdue, one.  De Niro excels as James Conway, an Irish guy in an Italian world.

It’s a powerhouse performance, with Conway’s brutal and aggressive affectations perhaps driven by the frustration that no matter how close he gets to the Lucchese crime family, he will never be fully considered as one of their own.  De Niro’s RAGING BULL co-star Joe Pesci also returns to Scorsese’s fold here as the explosively unpredictable Tommy DeVito, a small-time gangster with a nasty comic wit and an even nastier temper that would land Pesci the Oscar for Best Supporting Actor.

GOODFELLAS’ real revelation, however, is Ray Liotta as central protagonist Henry Hill.  Liotta was born to play this role, that of a charmingly cavalier and somewhat narcissistic gangster.  The film proved to be quite the career breakout for Liotta, and while he may have yet to transcend his work here, he has nonetheless enriched the art of cinema with a series of notable performances that live up to his initial promise.

GOODFELLAS’ supporting cast may not match the star power of De Niro, or even Pesci, but its members more than hold their own in memorable performances.  Lorraine Bracco, who already had a longtime connection to Scorsese as Harvey Keitel’s partner and mother of his child, plays Henry Hill’s wife, Karen.  She’s the antithesis of the archetypical Scorsese Blonde—she’s feisty, hotheaded, and very, very Jewish.

The film, like much of Scorsese’s other works, is a predominantly masculine affair, but Bracco’ willful, calculating performance sees her join in the proud tradition of headstrong, defiant Scorsese leading women.  Paul Sorvino is perfectly cast as Henry’s father figure and revered criminal “Paulie” Cicero.  He’s absolutely believable as a man who is at once both ferocious and gentle—a man who is not just respected, but feared.

Frank Vincent, who previously appeared in Scorsese’s RAGING BULL alongside De Niro and Pesci, plays the pivotal role of Billy Batts, a wise-talking, disrespectful ball-breaker from a rival crime family who winds up on the wrong end of our protagonists’ wrath.  Two years before his breakout in Quentin Tarantino’s PULP FICTION, Samuel L. Jackson shows up in the minor role of Stacks Edwards, a member of the Lufthansa Heist crew and the first casualty in Jimmy Conway’s campaign to tie up loose ends.

Of course, GOODFELLAS wouldn’t be a true Scorsese film without an appearance by the director’s parents, and the film delivers rather memorably on that front.  Mother Catherine appears in one of the best sequences of the film as Tommy DeVito’s doting mother, and father Charles shows up as a fellow inmate and cook in the spacious jail cell that Henry and Paulie occupy for several years.

GOODFELLAS marks the emergence of Scorsese’s late-era visual style, which combines flashy camerawork with an exhilarating pace, punctuated by French New-Wave-inspired techniques like jump cuts, freeze frames, extended tracking shots, whip-pans, and wall-to-wall source music.

The effect is very punk rock, and has served Scorsese considerably well from here to CASINO (1995), to THE DEPARTED (2006), and all the way to 2013’s THE WOLF OF WALL STREET.  The vibrant energy of Scorsese’s visual style can be attributed to the strength of his collaborations with regular cinematographer Michael Ballhaus and editor Thelma Schoonmaker.

The jumping off point for GOODFELLAS’ distinct presentation was Francois Truffaut’s seminal 1962 classic JULES AND JIM, which pioneered the dizzying mix of narration, quick cuts, freeze frame and location switches that GOODFELLAS concocts so effortlessly into an intoxicating Molotov cocktail.

The pace literally screams by, compacting years into minutes and further compacting the sequences themselves into exponentially tighter running times.  By Henry Hill’s last day as a wise guy in 1980 (in a sequence which serves as perhaps the most effective depiction of a cocaine high in cinema), we feel like so much has already happened– but the momentum keeps building, threatening to careen out of control and spin off into space.

Scorsese and Schoonmaker charge into scenes like a gunshot—whip-panning, zooming, freeze framing, and “screaming in” with the mobility afforded by a Steadicam rig.  Indeed, Scorsese makes excellent use of the Steadicam throughout GOODFELLAS, the most memorable instance of which is inarguably the extended tracking shot that follows Henry and Karen from the street outside the Copocabana club, through the back door and the twisting corridors, through the chaotic kitchen, and finally to their specially-reserved table right in front of the stage.

In that one shot, the allure and excitement of Henry’s chosen profession becomes immediately apparent.  Scorsese’s unique approach proves just as effective in its subtleties, such as the observation that he frames his close-ups in such a way that other characters’ performances are incorporated into the frame—further reinforcing the film’s themes of family and community, while conveying the intimate nature of their relationships.

Scorsese also allows the characters to address the camera directly, inviting the audience into their world while implicating us in their crimes by association.  One notable instance at the end of the film sees Henry Hill delivering his voiceover directly to camera, the first instance of a storytelling conceit that Scorsese would later explore in full in THE WOLF OF WALL STREET.

Scorsese has been a key player in integrating rock and roll into the cinematic landscape, but GOODFELLAS goes above and beyond the concept of sourcing pre-existing records.  The soundtrack is nearly wall-to-wall music, helping charge the narrative along while placing it in a proper cultural (and period-accurate) context.  The mix Scorsese looks to is quite eclectic, ranging from big band performers like Bobby Darin and Tony Bennett, to jukebox mainstays like The Cadillacs and the Harptones, all the way to modern punk and rock.

GOODFELLAS makes especially potent use of The Rolling Stones’ iconic track “Gimme Shelter”, an anthem Scorsese would incorporate into several later works.

Simply put, GOODFELLAS is a sterling example of what constitutes “a Scorsese movie”.  In addition to hitting all the requisite thematic beats, it is perhaps the best example of the classical Scorsese narrative archetype: the rise and fall of a member of a disenfranchised white minority (usually Italian or Irish) as they pursue the American Dream.

The aforementioned requisite thematic beats place GOODFELLAS squarely within Scorsese’s domain: examinations of Italian American immigrant culture, thugs and hoods as the protagonists, and explosively disorganized violence.  He builds on his past use of internal voiceover—most effectively in MEAN STREETS and TAXI DRIVER (1976)—by incorporating multiple points of view that show us characters and plot points from a different perspective (mostly Karen Hill’s).

Scorsese’s thorough knowledge of and affection for the history of cinema comes through in an unexpected, inspired moment at the film’s closing.  Knowing that the general story beats of GOODFELLAS followed that of the classic silent film THE GREAT TRAIN ROBBERY (1903), Scorsese decided to pay homage by emulating the latter’s final shot of a cowboy shooting directly at the camera, modernizing it with the image of Pesci in full gangster regalia doing the same.

In doing so, Scorsese manages to pay respect to the cinematic pioneers that had preceded him, even while furiously blazing new artistic trails all his own.

Any bit of behind the scenes footage or interviews one could watch for GOODFELLAS shows a cast and crew well aware of the fact that they were making an extremely special, once-in-a-lifetime film.  Their collective hunch was validated whenGOODFELLAS premiered at the 1990 Venice Film Festival and Scorsese took home the Silver Lion for Best Director.

Big box office receipts and heaps of critical praise would greet the film when it was widely released, along with six nominations from the Academy Awards, including Best Picture and Director (Scorsese’s loss in the Director category is, to this day, still seen as an outrage).  This immediate success wouldn’t just be a flash in the pan; GOODFELLAS has seen remarkable staying power in the years since its release.

Its influence is immediately apparent in Paul Thomas Anderson’s BOOGIE NIGHTS(1997), or anything Quentin Tarantino made in the 90’s.  It went on to directly inspire David Chase’s THE SOPRANOS, which would itself serve as a watershed moment in the television medium– the full effects of which are still unfolding today.

The film would also be inducted into the National Film Registry for preservation by the Library of Congress in 2000, its very first year of eligibility.  Many film buffs have come to see GOODFELLAS as the apex of Scorsese’s talent, with the more cynical among them seeing his eventual Oscar win for THE DEPARTED as an apology for the Academy’s oversight here.

GOODFELLAS is consistently ranked among the very top of the best crime and gangster films of all time, locked in a constant duel with Coppola’s THE GODFATHER (or its sequel).  For Scorsese himself, the film’s widespread success would mean a return to directorial glory and the beginning of a new, prestigious act in his career—one in which he would work as a world-recognized master of the medium and the preeminent cinematic chronicler of the American experience.


MADE IN MILAN (1990)

The same year that director Martin Scorsese released his crime epic GOODFELLAS to worldwide acclaim, he also released a short documentary work shot in Milan, Italy called (appropriately) MADE IN MILAN (1990).  The latest installment in a series of documentaries about people that captured Scorsese’s interest, the short showcases high-fashion icon Giorgio Armani as its subject.

  As the film unspools, Armani talks about his influences and his passions, as well as his philosophy towards his craft.  Armani is shown to be a consummate artist, with a laser-like attention to detail and an intimate sense of connection with every single aspect of his work.  Unlike the profession in which he works, Armani comes off as very modest and unpretentious—a man who values refined simplicity over exhibitionism.

Shot by Scorsese’s NEW YORK STORIES: “LIFE LESSONS” (1989) cinematographer Nestor Almendros, MADE IN MILANis very artful and expressionistic in presentation.  Many of its visual techniques foreshadow the ubiquitous style of current fashion films—while they’re rooted firmly in the 90’s, Armani’s draping, baggy designs could pass for what you would see on the street in 2015.

Scorsese continues his employment of the Steadicam rig to give the film a nonstop, elegant sense of motion.  The camera glides through iconic Milanese landmarks like The Duomo, as well as quaint, tucked-away avenues, eventually transporting us to Armani’s offices.  The roaming exploration of the baroque architecture of Armani’s office combines with the designer’s reflective voiceover to create an evocative mood reminiscent of Alain Resnais’ LAST YEAR AT MARIENBAD (1961).

When the action shifts to the runway, Scorsese trades in the classical, Old-World look for a stark, modern feel that contrasts the pitch-blackness of the audience and the pure glowing white of the runway stage with the neutral tones of Armani’s clothing designs.   Working once again with regular editor Thelma Schoonmaker, Scorsese punctuates the naturalistic aesthetic of the documentary format with expressionistic touches like slow motion shots and subjects breaking the fourth wall.

Composer Howard Shore builds upon said expressionism with a score that infuses a traditional Italian folk sound with a sense of brooding intrigue, as well as the rhythmic pounding of tribal drums during the runway sequence.  The drums themselves seem to reference mankind’s ability to continually reinvent a technology (clothing) that’s been around for thousands of years.

MADE IN MILAN stays consistent with Scorsese’s career-long exploration of his Italian heritage, marking the first time in which he travels directly to his homeland to document his people’s traditions with fashion, family, and food—free from any American influence.

Technical signatures, like extended tracking shots and the exposure of the filmmaking craft within the piece itself mark the presence of Scorsese’s artistic vision, even going so far as to turn the camera around on the crew at one point and reveal Scorsese along with his producer Barbara De Fina and writer Jay Cocks.  As a short documentary, MADE IN MILAN doesn’t particularly lend itself towards personal artistic growth for Scorsese, but it rather quietly announces a major milestone in his career—his ascension as an equal to cultural tastemakers on the world stage.


CAPE FEAR (1991)

For just over twenty years, director Martin Scorsese had consistently achieved something rather remarkable for an artist in his field— the development and realization of original ideas and passion projects.  Outside of BOXCAR BERTHA (1972) and maybe ALICE DOESN’T LIVE HERE ANYMORE (1974), the bulk of Scorsese’s output up until 1990 had stemmed from original visions or properties he was passionate about.

The runaway success of 1990’s GOODFELLAS—still regarded today as perhaps his finest film—gave him the opportunity to continue making the movies he wanted to make, but there was just one little snag.  In order to get his longtime passion project THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST financed in 1988, Scorsese had agreed to direct an additional, more-commercial film for Universal Pictures at some point in the future.  When they saw GOODFELLAS’ success, Universal decided it was time to collect.

The film that arose from this agreement (one could call it a deal with the devil) was 1991’s CAPE FEAR, a remake of the 1962 classic film of the same name starring Gregory Peck and Robert Mitchum.  The new version had been in development for quite some time, with a script written by Wesley Strick and overseen by super-producers Kathleen Kennedy and Frank Marshall.

Originally, CAPE FEAR was to be directed by Steven Spielberg, but Scorsese’s association with Spielberg and the larger generation of Film Brats led to the two men orchestrating a switch for the respective projects they were attached to: CAPE FEAR for SCHINDLER’S LIST (1993).  Let that sink in for a moment—we came this close to a Scorsese-directed SCHINDLER’S LIST.

It was thus that Scorsese found himself in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, directing his first mainstream thriller– a move that would exhibit his flair for thrilling narrative while giving him the wide berth he needed to explore uncharted territory.

CAPE FEAR is a story about violation, intrusion, and redemption set in the idyllic vacation town of New Essex, North Carolina.  Sam Bowden (Nick Nolte) is a successful, respected lawyer who has recently relocated his family here in a bid to make a new start after his infidelities nearly destroyed his marriage.

However, Sam finds that his past has followed him into his new life in the form of Max Cady (Robert De Niro), a former client of Sam’s and an illiterate serial rapist.  Fifteen years before, Sam had sold Cady out to the jury instead of defending him—a betrayal motivated by his utter disgust with Cady’s transgressions.  Cady is now a free man, having spent his time in prison boning up on law books and the bible.

He makes his presence known to Sam, lurking on the edge of his property and always in his periphery in public.  As Sam and his family rail against Cady’s cultivated climate of dread and fear, Cady becomes even more vicious and reveals his murderous intent.  With the lives of him and his family now put on trial, Sam must contend with a purified force of true evil.

CAPE FEAR is a showcase for De Niro’s darkest impulses as an actor, and his longtime collaborative relationship with Scorsese allows him to go deeper and farther than ever before.

His Oscar-nominated iteration of Max Cady is a far cry from Mitchum’s original portrayal, decorating himself with ominous religious tattoos that hint at his Pentecostal fanaticism and hiding his slithery, pedophilic nature behind an almost-friendly Southern drawl.  It may not be De Niro’s most powerful performance, but it lingers in the mind as a personification of some primal evil archetype lurking along the fringes of our subconscious.

Nolte also benefits from a prior collaboration with Scorsese (1989’s NEW YORK STORIES: “LIFE LESSONS”), with their personal familiarity giving Nolte the confidence to channel the driving fire underneath the mild-mannered, WASP-y character of Sam Bowden.  Jessica Lange plays Bowden’s wife, Leigh, as a strong-willed woman who refuses to become a victim either to Cady’s campaign of terror or her husband’s unfaithful nature.

And then there’s 90’s indie queen Juliette Lewis, who was nominated for a Best Supporting Actress Oscar for her role as fifteen year-old Danielle Bowden– Sam’s pouty, rebellious daughter who finds herself turned on by Cady’s dark charisma.

Scorsese’s supporting cast features some surprising faces, such as Joe Don Baker (better known for his appearances in the Pierce Brosnan James Bond films) as private investigator Claude Kersek.  Illeana Douglas, a bit actor in Scorsese’s “LIFE LESSONS” as well as GOODFELLAS, plays Lori Davis, an emotional mistress of sorts for Sam and one of Cady’s victims.

In a pleasantly surprising move, Scorsese also casts the two leads of the 1961 CAPE FEAR in supporting cameos.  Mitchum plays Lt. Elgart, an elderly, dignified police captain, and Gregory Peck (in his final film appearance) plays Cady’s lawyer Lee Heller— a performance that’s reminiscent of something like Atticus Finch’s evil twin.

Working for the first time with cinematographer Freddie Francis, Scorsese gives CAPE FEAR the distinctive aura of the Southern Gothic subgenre—taking his tonal cues from Charles Laughton’s THE NIGHT OF THE HUNTER (1955), the seminal hallmark of that particular style (which also starred Mitchum, funnily enough).

Right off the bat, CAPE FEARdeparts from Scorsese’s established aesthetic in that it’s shot in the anamorphic 2.35:1 aspect ratio.  As a student of film history, Scorsese had always admired the panoramic vistas afforded by a wider canvas, but he refrained from using it in his own work simply because he didn’t like the fact that he would have to compromise his original framing when performing the pan-and-scan transfer for the home video market.

He decided to adopt the anamorphic ratio for CAPE FEAR partly out of an eager optimism that true widescreen video presentations were just around the corner.  Of course, this didn’t come to pass and his nightmares were realized when he had to chop up the film to fit our square television sets.

As a mainstream studio thriller, CAPE FEAR benefits from a lavish, big-budget look that builds on classical filmmaking tropes popularized by old school masters like Alfred Hitchcock.  Indeed, CAPE FEAR plays like the best film that Hitchcock never made, with Scorsese using bold, sweeping camera movements and theatrical stage lighting to add scope and grandeur to the story.

Scorsese even steals Hitchcock’s closest collaborators, like iconic titles designer Saul Bass and composer Bernard Herrman (or rather, Herrman’s music reworked by Elmer Bernstein).  Despite his desire to emulate the style of old-fashioned Hollywood moviemaking, Scorsese still injects his own dynamic aesthetic into CAPE FEAR’s veins.

He utilizes a chaotic, dizzying mix of canted camera angles, whip-pans, rack zooms, split-focus diopter compositions, and even his signature “scream-in” shots—all assembled by regular editor Thelma Schoonmaker into a coherent (if delirious) whole.  The overall effect is one of Scorsese adding his own particular brand to a familiar property while still being respectful to the original film’s legacy.  If you’re going to remake a movie, this is how you do it, folks.

Color plays an important part in the visual storytelling of CAPE FEAR.  The 1962 original was presented in black and white, and while the use of color in the remake is a no-brainer, Scorsese actually manages to justify its use as a storytelling tool that actually enhances the narrative.  Bowden’s life is rendered in large, impersonal swaths of beige, pastels, and neutral tones—this is a man who doesn’t want to make a fuss, happy to live out a quiet life in relative anonymity.

By contrast, De Niro wears screamingly bold colors, with his blood red Hawaiian shirt and muscle car acting as particularly effective agents of aggression.  In another nod to Hitchcock, Scorsese repeatedly makes lurid use of expressionistic blocks of color that bloom to envelope the frame, acting as a propulsive pulse that shifts the colors into black and white or even negative.

This creative use of color points to Scorsese’s genius as an artist and a storyteller—a lesser filmmaker would simply update an old black and white movie to color for the sheer sake of modernity, without giving it a proper justification in the first place.

As previously mentioned, Scorsese uses Bernard Herrman’s original 1962 score for CAPE FEAR to sell the old-school vibe of his modern-day update.  Herrman’s disciple Elmer Bernstein reworks, re-arranges, and re-orchestrates the late composer’s work, even including portions of his unused score for Hitchcock’s TORN CURTAIN (1966).

The score is iconic for its orchestral, brassy sound, and Scorsese knows not to mess with a good thing.  Nevertheless, he does manage to find a few instances to include his own musical tastes, incorporating some opera as well as R&B into the soundtrack when characters play music on-screen.

In translating the story of CAPE FEAR to modern day sensibilities, Scorsese turns to his signature thematic fascinations in a bid to inject complexity and nuance.  Scorsese’s take is less of a good vs. evil/hunter vs. prey parable than it is a meditation on machismo and power dynamics—comparing and contrasting the raw, unhinged masculinity of Max Cady with the quiet, disciplined masculinity required by Bowden’s existence as a father and husband.

The iconography and dogma of Christianity is quite prevalent as well, except in this case it takes on a particularly perverted brand of Pentecostal belief instead of the director’s own Roman Catholicism.  De Niro sports a giant crucifix tattoo across his back, with the rest of his body covered in various passages from the Bible.  Indeed, De Niro’s Cady seems able to call up any passage from the bible at will, entirely from memory.

Of course, he’s able to pervert those same passages for his own twisted means, giving him a deluded sense of righteousness that justifies his quest to punish Sam Bowden for the wrongs done to him.  Scorsese’s use of the institution of cinema as an everyday part of his characters’ lives also sees an appearance here, with Cady and Bowden first crossing ill-fated paths during a movie screening.

And finally, other aspects of the presentation like characters breaking the fourth wall to gaze directly into the camera and messy, unpredictable displays of violence further point to Scorsese’s guiding stewardship and influence.

CAPE FEAR occupies a strange place within Scorsese’s body of work—it is lost in a sea of far superior films from the director, but for a long time, it stood as his most commercially successful work in terms of box office numbers.  It also marks Scorsese’s first experience with optical effects, like matte paintings and blue screen replacement.

His confidence with visual effects would grow with each film, to the point where his most recent films make copious use of computer-generated effects and digital backdrops (for better or worse).  Now, over two decades removed from the film’s release, CAPE FEAR holds up as a strong, albeit minor work in Scorsese’s filmography.

As an excursion into genre-oriented filmmaking (and a genre Scorsese was previously unfamiliar with, to that end), CAPE FEAR proves itself as an effective foray into the heart of darkness found buried at the bottom of each and every man.


THE AGE OF INNOCENCE (1993)

Director Martin Scorsese is best known for his cinematic depictions of New York City and its varied inhabitants.

Most of the time, these explorations are filtered through the prism of the contemporary Italian American experience, so when it was announced that Scorsese’s follow-up to the commercially successful CAPE FEAR (1992) would be an adaptation of Pulitzer Prize-winning novelist Edith Wharton’s “The Age of Innocence”—a novel about forbidden love in the elite social circles of Victorian-era Manhattan– many were left scratching their heads as to why a director so prized for his skill with visceral on-screen carnage and foul-mouthed, thuggish characters would want to take on a stuffy chamber drama.

To his credit, Scorsese (along with co-screenwriter Jay Cocks and regular producer Barbara De Fina) manages to bring a sense of immediacy and devastating emotion to THE AGE OF INNOCENCE (1993) while expanding his own repertoire of New York-centric stories.  Unlike CAPE FEARTHE AGE OF INNOCENCE didn’t perform well at the box office, but it has managed to hold up as one of the finer, more-underrated films in his canon of work.

THE AGE OF INNOCENCE takes place in nineteenth-century era New York City, complemented by brief detours into Paris, London and Manhattan’s eternal rival: Boston.  Newland Archer (Daniel Day Lewis) is a wealthy lawyer navigating New York’s elite social scene.

He’s recently become engaged to young socialite May Welland (Winona Ryder), but his feelings are complicated by the unexpected arrival of May’s cousin Countess Ellen Olenska (Michelle Pfeiffer) from Europe.  The Countess is having trouble integrating into New York society, on account of her failed marriage staining her dignity in the eyes of the Gotham elite.

Newland agrees to represent her in her bid for a divorce, only to fall helplessly in lust with her.  While it is eventually consummated, their affair is one carried out from afar, yearning longingly across vast distances and societal constraints.  All the while, a narrator styled in the literary vein of Wharton herself gives context to the events, filling out the world with some much-needed exposition.

Through it all, THE AGE OF INNOCENCE arises not as a love story, but a story about the specter of love when it goes unfulfilled, as well as the haunting, lingering nature of heartbreak.

THE AGE OF INNOCENCE makes a clean break in terms of Scorsese’s gallery of recurring performers.  Besides the absence of the obvious like Robert De Niro or Harvey Keitel, Scorsese doesn’t even see fit to include smaller favorites like Victor Argo or Verna Bloom.  Instead, he opts to work with an entirely new ensemble of actors, headlined by the inimitable Daniel Day Lewis as the distinguished, yet conflicted protagonist.

Caught between his emotions and a society that frowns upon them, Day Lewis is incredibly effective in his first performance for Scorsese.  Day Lewis does not have a habit of working with the same director more than once, so his explosively iconic reunion with Scorsese on GANGS OF NEW YORK a decade later is a testament to the strength of their collaboration here.

As the Countess Ellen Olenska, Michelle Pfeiffer channels the effortless cool and aloof-ness of the Scorsese blonde archetype.  Winona Ryder ably rounds out the third corner of the central love triangle as Newland’s innocent and demure (but most definitely not oblivious) fiancé/wife May Welland.  Scorsese himself shows up briefly in a nonspeaking cameo as the wedding photographer.  The performances in THE AGE OF INNOCENCEare effective enough, struggling valiantly against the unwieldy, formal vernacular of the time.

Though Scorsese may be working with an entirely new set of actors in front of the camera, his key collaborators behind it are quite familiar indeed.  Having sat out the cinematographer’s chair on CAPE FEAR, Scorsese’s regular DP Michael Ballhaus returns to lens THE AGE OF INNOCENCE.

Once again shooting in the 2.35:1 anamorphic aspect ratio, Scorsese and Ballhaus imbue the otherwise-stuffy, staid Victorian chamber drama style with New Wave-inspired camerawork and compositions that subvert the formalized nature of the subject matter.  The dynamic camera injects a great deal of life into the picture, using a frenzied (yet always motivated) variety of dolly, steadicam and crane moves.

The straightforward, realistic presentation is given expressionistic flourish with picturesque matte painting backgrounds, theatrical stage-lighting setups (like an instance that dims the practical lights to focus on Newland), and the recurring use of crossfades and superimpositions to gracefully bridge each of editor Thelma Schoonmaker’s cuts to the next.

  Legendary titles designer Saul Bass, who first worked with Scorsese on the opening titles to CAPE FEAR, returns to render THE AGE OF INNOCENCE’s opening with a simplistic design that juxtaposes blooming flowers over lace textures meant to echo the film’s themes of passionate love being boxed in by societal constraints and expectations.

Finally, Elmer Bernstein, who reworked Bernard Herrman’s CAPE FEAR score for Scorsese’s remake, jumps at the chance to create wholly original music as the composer for THE AGE OF INNOCENCE.  Bernstein’s lush, romantic score is quite fitting for a period costume drama, dovetailing quite nicely with Scorsese’s use of pre-existing, era-authentic march and waltz songs.

THE AGE OF INNOCENCE is about as far as it gets from other, career-defining Scorsese works like TAXI DRIVER (1976) or GOODFELLAS (1990), but the film fits into the director’s overall aesthetic in several unexpected ways.  On a technical level, Scorsese uses recurring visual tropes like extended track shots (see the scene where Day Lewis walks us through a grand ballroom and its surrounding parlors), silent film-era iris shots, and actors breaking the fourth wall to speak directly to camera.

Thematically, there’s the afore-mentioned Scorsese blonde character archetype—framed here (as in his earlier works) as the seductress that temps our male protagonist away from the brunette he’s currently involved with.  One can draw several lines of similarity between Scorsese’s depiction of nineteen century New York WASPs and twentieth century Italian American immigrants:  for instance, dinners are presented as large social events, and opera plays a large role in the entertainment culture.

As Scorsese’s expansion into the uncharted waters of the unfamiliar costume drama genre, THE AGE OF INNOCENCEpresents compelling insights into a culture and society that the filmmaker admittedly didn’t have much firsthand experience with growing up.

The film is something of a companion piece to Scorsese’s other Day Lewis-starring work about 1800’s-era New York, GANGS OF NEW YORK (2002), in that it shows the trials and tribulations of Manhattan’s elite social circles (while GANGS OF NEW YORK took on the perspective of the street people who envied them).

While decidedly not a commercial success, THE AGE OF INNOCENCE was modestly successful on a critical level, resulting in an Oscar for Best Costume Design.  THE AGE OF INNOCENCE’s real impact on Scorsese’s career, however, would be its status as the film on which Scorsese was working when his beloved father, Charles Scorsese, died.

The elder Scorsese had made several cameos in his son’s work over the decades, and his passing was marked with THE AGE OF INNOCENCE’s dedication to his memory during the closing credits.  For all of its mediocrity as a box office draw, THE AGE OF INNOCENCE has shown remarkable resilience in the years since—stubbornly refusing to be swept under the rug by its maker’s more famous, successful works.

There’s a reason that Scorsese considers THE AGE OF INNOCENCE to be his most “violent” film– it’s a stunning look into the emotional inhumanity and carnage that even the most well-heeled and extensively educated people are capable of inflicting on each other.


A PERSONAL JOURNEY WITH MARTIN SCORSESE THROUGH AMERICAN MOVIES (1995)

One of the many defining characteristics of the Film Brat generation of filmmakers is their inherent affection and thorough knowledge of the medium.  They were second-generation artists, the spiritual successors to early pioneers like Alfred Hitchcock, Howard Hawks, DW Griffith, King Vidor, and several others.

They were born after the language and conventions of cinema had been firmly established, which meant that the very nature of their own roles in the medium needed to question and rebel against those very foundations.  In order to do so effectively, they naturally would have to be well versed in the medium’s history, major works, and key players.

This cinematic literacy is common amongst the second-generation of filmmakers, the first to benefit from a formalized film education—but of all those directors, none were as arguably immersed in the art of cinema than Martin Scorsese.  As a sickly child barred from outdoor activities, the majority of Scorsese’s formative years were spent in movie theatres voraciously consuming anything and everything that was released.

Scorsese’s work is littered with references, homages, and techniques gleaned from his influences, and in 1995, he decided to pay tribute to his cinematic forefathers with the feature-length documentary A PERSONAL JOURNEY WITH MARTIN SCORSESE THROUGH AMERICAN MOVIES.

Produced by the British Film Institute and aired in three parts on the UK’S Channel 14, A PERSONAL JOURNEY unfolds over the course of three and a half hours (!) in a series of on-camera interviews and film clips.  Scorsese plays host and narrator, framing the role of the director as that of a storyteller, an illusionist, a smuggler, and an iconoclast engaged in an eternal push and pull against the studio.

Through this framework, he presents a survey of the art form’s development from its birth to around 1969: the early silent works, the transition to sound and color, and finally the advent of Cinemascope.  He focuses acutely on the genres that shaped him directly—the western, the gangster picture, and the musical—and spends a significant amount of time charting the growth and development of those genres.

Further solidifying his social connection to the Film Brat community of directors, Scorsese sees fit to throw in filmed interviews featuring George Lucas, Francis Ford Coppola, Brian De Palma and Clint Eastwood, along with older filmmakers like Arthur Penn, Billy Wilder and Samuel Fuller.  There’s even an appearance by Scorsese’s own personal mentor, indie pioneer John Cassavetes.

Because A PERSONAL JOURNEY is mostly comprised of pre-existing film clips, there is very little original material besides interviews that had to be generated.  To this end, the film employs a combination of three cinematographers: Jean-Yves Escoffier, Frances Reid and Nancy Schreiber.

Despite the presence of new cinematographers and a new producer in Florence Dauman, Scorsese surrounds himself with familiar collaborators like Thelma Schoonmaker (overseeing an edit by Kenneth Levis and David Lindbom), Saul Bass (turning in a series of minimalistic, hand-drawn intertitles), and Elmer Bernstein (composing a quietly nostalgic, piano-based score).

However, it’s not just the returning collaborators that mark A PERSONAL JOURNEY as an inherently “Scorsese” work—his signature is evident in the documentary’s fundamental conceit of celebrating America’s major role in the medium of cinema.

Scorsese’s presentation is informed by a lifelong passion for movies, and as the narrator/host, he is able to penetrate the fourth wall and address the audience directly in his bid to reiterate the importance of our filmic legacy.  One very interesting anecdote finds Scorsese describing one of the very first films he ever saw in a theater, King Vidor’s DUEL IN THE SUN(1946)—an epic western starring Gregory Peck—as a revelatory experience in the range of narrative that cinema was capable of telling.

This observation is all the more poignant knowing that Peck himself would later make his last film appearance in Scorsese’s CAPE FEAR (1991).

Anyone with a self-described love for cinema or Scorsese’s artistry owes it to their selves to watch A PERSONAL JOURNEY.  It’s an exceedingly intimate portrait of Scorsese and his artistic worldview as informed by those who preceded him, and his refusal to comment on his own work or those of his contemporaries in the context of the documentary points to a fundamental respect and dignity that is sorely missing from most working directors today.

In its decision to focus exclusively on American cinema and its development, A PERSONAL JOURNEY barely scratches the surfaces of the wider story of film—but at three and a half hours long, it’s clear to see that Scorsese’s focus, while narrow, is exceedingly thorough and endlessly informative.  With the completion of A PERSONAL JOURNEY, Scorsese doesn’t just take another step in his personal development as a documentary filmmaker, he establishes himself as America’s pre-eminent film historian and the guardian of its legacy to the world.


CASINO (1995)

Director Martin Scorsese’s collaboration with author Nicholas Pileggi on GOODFELLAS (1990) led to arguably the biggest success of either man’s careers.  Their shared affinity and thorough knowledge of Italian American culture as focused through the prism of organized crime created one of the best films of the 1990’s.

So when Scorsese heard that Pileggi was sniffing around a story on the golden heyday of Las Vegas and the mafiosos who ran it, a second collaboration seemed inevitable.  The project was inspired by a newspaper article about a car bombing that nearly claimed the life of Stardust Casino boss Frank “Lefty” Rosenthal— an event which was only the latest salvo in a long-standing war between the organized crime families that ran Las Vegas.

Before Pileggi could finish his non-fiction book on the subject, Scorsese already had him collaborating on a screenplay that would serve as something of a spiritual sequel to GOODFELLAS.  While CASINO isn’t quite the runaway success that GOODFELLAS was, it nevertheless stands apart as its own triumph and ranks amongst Scorsese’s very best work.

CASINO depicts the freewheeling golden days of Las Vegas, circa 1973-1983—before the corporations took over the Strip and turned it into a family-friendly Disneyland in the desert.  Sam “Ace” Rothstein (Robert De Niro) runs the fictional Tangiers casino (realized in the film via The Riviera) like a mayor runs a town, overseeing all aspects and making himself highly visible and available to his employees.

Bequeathed this post by his mob associates back home in Chicago, Ace finds he has a real knack for the business, and CASINO follows his meteoric rise in a culture defined by excess and pleasure.  Despite all his wealth and the ability to buy anything he’s ever wanted, there’s one thing he just can’t seem to have—love.

He marries blond bombshell Ginger McKenna (Sharon Stone) knowing full well she doesn’t love him, but that doesn’t stop him from hoping she might one day grow to love him back.  Unfortunately for him, Ginger only cares about herself, her jewels, and her money.  As Ace’s American Dream turns into disillusionment, his ties with the Powers That Be back home sours as his relationship to their local figurehead, Nicky Santoro (Joe Pesci) begins to fray against a barrage of deceit and treachery.

As Ace struggles with the realization that his golden days are behind him, he finds that not only is his ownership of the Tangiers on the line– so is his life.

Scorsese and De Niro had come up together through the decades, forming a mutually beneficial symbiosis that propelled both men to the forefront of their craft.  As of this writing, CASINO would serve as their last collaboration together, and while De Niro’s performance as “Ace” Rothstein might not match the iconic status of Travis Bickle or Jake LaMotta, he nonetheless hits it out of the park as a ruthlessly determined and savvy casino boss.

His low-key, non-flashy personality is offset by a flamboyant sense of style, and his Jewish nature sets him apart from the Mafioso types that surround him.  Sharon Stone was nominated for an Academy Award for her unhinged performance as Ace’s wife, Ginger— a woman who initially strikes us as glamorous and confidently rebellious, but grows increasingly more manipulative and vindictive as the years pass.

Joe Pesci, in his third and final collaboration with Scorsese, plays the unpredictably explosive east coast transplant Nicky Santoro.  Despite playing a character archetype quite similar to his role in GOODFELLAS, Pesci turns Nicky Santoro into an altogether different animal—a loose cannon with a pinpoint laser focus.

CASINO’s supporting cast is an inspired mix of eclectic actors and actresses, led by James Woods as the gloriously sleazy Lester Diamond, a smalltime pimp and Ginger’s longtime love interest.  Woods effortlessly affects a low-class sleaze and poor taste that conveys how broke he truly is.  Comedian Don Rickles plays Billy Sherbet, the affable Tangiers floor manager and Ace’s right hand man.

Scorsese stalwart Frank Vincent plays Frank Marino, a lackey of Pesci’s who betrays him quite brutally in the film’s denouement.  Finally, there’s Scorsese mother Catherine in the latest of a long string of cameos, playing a mother to a mob boss operating a Kansas grocery store.  Her comedic chops are on full display, hilariously prickling at her son’s constant profanity and verbal tirades like only a strong, no-bullshit Italian mother can.

CASINO’s visual style can be summed up in one word: excess.  Scorsese takes the kinetic, roaring style he established in GOODFELLAS and amps it into overdrive.  Every aspect of the film– the camerawork, the music, the lighting, the voiceover narration featuring multiple perspectives, even the costumes– are taken to their outermost limits (the costume budget alone was reportedly one million dollars).

Scorsese’s regular cinematographer, Michael Ballhaus was unavailable to work on CASINO, so instead the director turned to first-time collaborator, Robert Richardson, who Scorsese had previously known for his work shooting the films of Oliver Stone (a student of Scorsese’s from his side gig teaching film at New York University).

Richardson has since gone on to lens several further Scorsese works and become a regular collaborator akin to Ballhaus, a fact that’s evidenced by the strong work on display in CASINO.  Shooting on Super35mm film and once again in the 2.35:1 anamorphic aspect ratio, Scorsese and Richardson render the world of Las Vegas in lurid, glowing neon and gaudy, twinkling lights.

Like GOODFELLAS before it, Scorsese utilizes dynamic, virtuoso camerawork to give his story a screaming pace and slick sense of motion.  By this point, Scorsese has distilled his style into an eclectic mix of crane shots, steadicam moves, whip-pans, canted angles, freeze frames, speed ramps, iris shots, split-focus diopter compositions, and his signature “scream-in” technique (in addition to the new usage of grandiose helicopter-mounted shots).

CASINO is less of a film with linear scenes conveying plot than it is one long montage encompassing a decade of high times and bad behavior, and regular editor Thelma Schoonmaker expertly puts every little piece in just the right place, making sense out of what must’ve been an incomprehensible jumble of dailies and fashioning it into the definitive Las Vegas film.

Iconic titles designer Saul Bass also returns, creating an unforgettable opening credits sequence that alludes to Ace’s narrative arc as a swift free fall into the fiery depths of hell.

With CASINO, Scorsese’s career-long habit of peppering the soundtracks to his films with preexisting rock, blues, and jukebox hits is dialed up to an unprecedented degree.  The aforementioned excessive style that Scorsese is after translates to a nonstop string of wall-to-wall music.  While some might this call this indulgent, it’s a choice that fits right in line with the world he’s depicting onscreen.

Because he has to cover a decade’s worth of story in just under three hours, Scorsese adopts the conventions of montage and applies them on a macro scale.  The constant, ADD-style switchover to various rock, blues, jazz, country, and even operatic classical tracks communicates the passage of time as well as the characters’ dizzying, fast-paced lifestyle quite efficiently.

The Animals’ “House Of The Rising Sun” is emphasized quite heavily in the narrative as a musical allegory for the dangers of a life lived in vice, but Scorsese also channels the spirit and character of Las Vegas itself through the use of tracks from Frank Sinatra and other members of The Rat Pack.

And of course, a Scorsese film wouldn’t be complete without an appearance by The Rolling Stones, and several of their tracks make it into CASINO—including “Gimme Shelter”, which had previously been used in GOODFELLAS and has become something of a theme song for Scorsese’s work itself.

Like GOODFELLAS before it, CASINO is seen as one of Scorsese’s most archetypically “Scorsese” films.  This is thanks to the narrative’s “rise and fall” format, which in the context of Scorsese’s body of work takes the form of Italian-American lowlifes and hoods as the protagonists, trying to achieve a materialistic version of The American Dream through illicit criminal means.

While they succeed for a while, they are forced to watch their hard work implode around them in a frenzied fit of chaotic violence, domestic treachery, and legal consequences.  When it comes to the depiction of essential components of this lifestyle—excessive profanity, nudity and violence—Scorsese doesn’t shy away from their hard R-rated portrayal, yet he doesn’t sensationalize it either.

To these characters, delivering a lead slug to the back of some schmuck’s skull is as everyday and routine as fetching the paper or making a pot of coffee.  Some of Scorsese’s other identifiable tropes– like the archetype of the blonde bombshell/femme fatale– are exaggerated to an over-the-top degree, while others—Roman Catholic imagery and dogma—are relegated to mere cameo appearances.

If GOODFELLAS was the height of what might be considered a “Scorsese” movie, then CASINO’s highly exaggerated, almost-absurd appropriation of that same aesthetic could be considered a parody (despite its pitch-black seriousness).

This sense of indulgence on all fronts might be why CASINO isn’t held in the same regard as its sister film GOODFELLAS, but it doesn’t make it any less important to Scorsese’s body of work.  Much like TAXI DRIVER is a document of the seedy decay of Times Square before Giuliani turned it into a corporate tourist trap, so to does CASINO preserve the character of a Las Vegas that no longer exists—a haven for sin and vice that was paved over to make way for one big family-friendly amusement park.

CASINO ends with the demolition of several of Old Las Vegas’ most iconic landmarks, marking the end of an era.  In some ways, it was also the end of an era for Scorsese himself: CASINO would serve (as of this writing) as the director and De Niro’s last collaboration together—a collaboration that lasted nearly thirty years and gave us eight unforgettable performances that would define both men’s careers.

Johnny Boy, Travis Bickle, Jake LaMotta, Jimmy Conway, Max Cady, and Ace Rothstein loom large in the collective cinematic psyche, each one a testament to the extraordinary relationship between director and actor.

While Scorsese has tried to recapture that magic in recent days with Leonardo DiCaprio and found success, their collaboration will always pale in comparison to his works with De Niro.

Both men are still alive and still actively working, and as such could easily get together once again and give us yet another iconic character, but perhaps it’s best that they stopped here with CASINO.  Filmmaking, like gambling, is a game of both skill and chance—a triumphant outcome is never guaranteed, no matter how good you are at counting cards or framing up shots.

With CASINO, Scorsese and De Niro had come out ahead with a jackpot of creative fortune, and now perhaps the time had come to triumphantly cash out.


KUNDUN (1997)

By the mid 1990’s, Martin Scorsese was well into his third decade as a successful filmmaker.  After a long career spent as a chronicler of inherently American stories and worldviews, Scorsese now found himself on the world stage as a major voice in international cinema.  This development would explain why, sometime in the mid-90’s, Scorsese sat down to dinner with Harrison Ford, his wife Melissa Mathison, and the Dalai Lama.

Mathison had written a script about the Dalai Lama’s life and his rise to prominence during a very tumultuous period in Chinese and Tibetan history, and she was convinced that Scorsese was the right person to put her vision on the screen.  Scorsese was understandably skeptical— he was an asthmatic Italian Catholic kid from New York, how could be possibly be the right guy for this job?

Over the course of that dinner, however, Scorsese was inspired by the Dalai Lama’s gentle courageousness and began to see the project as something of a non-denominational prayer; an act of worship that strove to connect with the shared experiences of all humanity.  So it was that Scorsese teamed up once again with producing partner and ex-wife Barbara De Fina and followed up CASINO’s (1995) rollicking tale of sin and excess with a paean to peace and modesty—1997’s KUNDUN.

Because Scorsese and company were not allowed to enter Tibet as a shooting locale, the production returned to Morocco—the site of filming for 1988’s THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST— as a substitute for the dramatic vistas of both Tibet and China.  KUNDUN (the Dalai Lama’s alternative name and the Tibetan word for “presence”) charts the course of the Dalai Lama’s formative years during 1937-1959, a time of great social change and upheaval.

Eschewing traditional narrative structure, Scorsese presents the story as an episodic tapestry: he shows us Kundun’s discovery as a baby in a village located along the Chinese border, a childhood spent grappling with his preordained fate and duties, and his rise to power as a leader of the Tibetan people.

The key conflict in KUNDUN is the Dalai Lama’s struggle against the invading Communist forces, which have just emerged victorious from the Chinese Revolution and want to claim Tibet as its own while assimilating Tibetans into their atheistic culture.

Kundun meets with with Chairman Mao Zedong to find a peaceful resolution, but it becomes increasingly clear that not only do the Chinese have no intention of compromise, but they also have no qualms about killing him if that’s what it takes.  In order to continue leading his people, Kundun must leave his native land and secretly smuggle himself out of Tibet and into India.

KUNDUN is notable within Scorsese’s body of work in that it represents a total departure from the director’s stable of regular collaborators.  The cast is populated by real Tibetans—not a single American actor shows up.  Tenzin Thuthob Tsarong, the real-life grandnephew to the Dalai Lama, plays his grand-uncle as a quiet, compassionate man who is resolutely steadfast in his convictions.

The character is a very unconventional protagonist for Scorsese to explore—in the absence of a character arc, Kundun emerges instead as the personification of human ideals about faith and grace.  Because Scorsese chooses to portray the antagonistic Chinese forces as more of an unseen force, Robert Lin downplays the role of Chairman Mao Zedong into something more resembling an effete Saturday Night Live sketch instead of a nuanced portrayal.

Just as Scorsese is working with an entirely new set of faces in front of the camera, so too does he recruit a new key behind-the-scenes collaborator in the form of venerated cinematographer Roger Deakins.  The first thing that strikes me about the visual presentation of KUNDUN is just how lush and gorgeous it is.

The film is awash in bold, brilliant reds and yellows (and to a lesser extent, blues).  Deakins’ strengths with natural light are a key factor here, but so too is Scorsese’s decision to compose his anamorphic 2.35:1 frame as if it were a Western film.  Scorsese was profoundly influenced by the genre in his youth, and KUNDUN serves as a chance to emulate that style of filmmaking.

As such, Scorsese often frames his subjects as small figures (on horseback too, naturally) against dramatic vistas and landscapes.  The camerawork reflects this aesthetic choice, adding a sweeping sense of scope with inspired dolly, crane, and helicopter shots.  Famous for his hyperkinetic camerawork, Scorsese surprisingly employs a fairly reserved sense of movement, allowing a lyrical presentation style to generate the requisite energy instead.

Working once again with regular editor Thelma Schoonmaker, Scorsese departs from his blunt, rough-around-the-edges editing aesthetic.  Perhaps inspired by the visual motif of colored sand arranged in intricate patterns that recurs throughout the film, Scorsese and Schoonmaker fashion a refined edit that makes extensive use of dreamlike crossfades and expressionistic cross-cutting reminiscent of the French New Wave.

Combined with several slow motion shots that highlight the graceful beauty of movement, KUNDUN comes off as the most lyrical, poetic work Scorsese has ever accomplished.

Revered minimalist Philip Glass provides KUNDUN’s score, rendering his signature staccato/legato hybrid style in an appropriate mix of Eastern-influenced strings, gongs, and chants.  The music flows like a coursing river through Scorsese’s vignettes, connecting each moment together into the grand flow of time while giving each story beat a poignant resonance.

On its surface, KUNDUN seems like a film extremely disconnected from Scorsese’s body of work, to the point that Scorsese himself initially questioned why he should become involved.  However, KUNDUN actually dovetails quite harmoniously with Scorsese’s career-long thematic fascinations.

Grappling with religion and faith has always been an essential component of Scorsese’s work, and KUNDUN couches that search in the context of Eastern philosophies like reincarnation.  Atheism is also tackled, with Chairman Mao’s line, “religion is poison”, given significant emotional weight as the yin to Kundun’s yang.

KUNDUN’s dramatics hinge entirely on this dichotomy of an ancient culture clashing with the rapid modernity of the 20thcentury, or in other words, a war of the Enlightened between religion and science.  The friction caused by this collision of mismatched ideals is reminiscent of Scorsese’s prior portraits of old-world Italian culture—a culture steeped in tradition and ritual—butting up against the materialistic ideals of modern America.

Additionally, KUNDUN contains some other surface signatures of Scorsese’s aesthetic: violence portrayed as sudden and chaotic, and cinema as part of the characters’ lives (Kundun is shown watching a silent “magic” film and old Hollywood epics).

KUNDUN closes with a very notable dedication— Scorsese’s mother, Catherine, had passed away during the film’s preproduction.  The director’s parents had always been an integral part of his filmmaking, even going so far as to make regular cameos, and Catherine’s passing (as well his father’s passing a few years prior) now meant that he was now truly on his own.

Despite any sympathy this may engender for the director’s efforts, KUNDUN failed to find success at the box office upon release, and reviews were… polite, to put it mildly.  Many critics were reverent of Scorsese’s beautiful filmmaking, but were ultimately bored by the lack of a compelling narrative.

Stateside, the film was nominated for Academy Awards for its art direction, cinematography, costume design, and original score, but in Tibet and China, the film was hastily scorned (with Scorsese himself banned from ever entering China as a result of his making the film).

Nearly twenty years removed from its release, KUNDUN has positioned itself as something of a companion piece to THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST.  It’s an Eastern equivalent to the Western question of religion and man’s place in the grand cosmic machinery, a concept that Scorsese has struggled with throughout his whole life.

While KUNDUN may be an oft-neglected work in his filmography, Scorsese’s attempts to further his own understanding of his faith from a wildly different perspective gives the final film an enduring emotional richness.


BRINGING OUT THE DEAD (1999)

The emergency room is a space that’s inherently loaded with extreme emotion—the drama of life plays out here on a daily basis, constantly reminding us of our own mortality.  It’s a place that nobody ever wants to go, especially when it’s an unexpected visit in the middle of the night.

In the mid-to-late 1990’s, director Martin Scorsese would find himself here on several occasions, summoned from his bed in the wee hours of the morning to bear witness– first to the passing of his father Charles, and then to his mother Catherine.  He no doubt perceived the emergency room as a limbo made manifest on earth—a stopgap between the living and the dead.

It’s an admittedly easy allusion to make, and one that’s been made by many others, like New York City parademic-turned-novelist Joe Connelly, who’s book “Bringing Out The Dead” was sent to Scorsese’s attention by producer Scott Rudin.

It didn’t take long for Scorsese to make the connect with his own life, but it would be a different kind of connection that proved more compelling:  the perspective of a lonely, haunted man who roams New York City’s nocturnal city streets and bears witness to the gamut of human experience was the purview of 1976’s TAXI DRIVER, and the subject matter of BRINGING OUT THE DEAD (1999) would serve as a return to that world and emotional state.

To this end, Scorsese sought out a fourth collaboration with his TAXI DRIVER, RAGING BULL (1980) and THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST (1988) scribe, Paul Schrader.  While the finished film (produced by Rudin and Scorsese’s producing partner Barbara De Fina) was not fated to replicate the financial or critical success of Scorsese and Schrader’s prior collaborations, BRINGING OUT THE DEAD excels at capturing a particular nihilistic sentiment commonly expressed as the new millennium approached, and today stands as an underrated gem within Scorsese’s sterling body of work.

BRINGING OUT THE DEAD is set in the early 1990’s, shortly before Mayor Rudy Giuliani’s city-wide crackdown on crime and subsequent “Disney-fication” of Manhattan.  The action takes place entirely in a Hell’s Kitchen as perceived through the eyes of paramedic Frank Pierce (Nicholas Cage), a graveyard-shift insomniac who becomes increasingly haunted by the spirits of those he was unable to save.

  One of those people in particular—a young homeless girl he only knows as “Rose”—pops up almost everywhere he looks, poking at the fringes of his conscience.  On the night we meet Frank, he’s reached the end of his rope and is actively trying to get himself fired.  He transports the victim of a massive heart attack back to the emergency room, thinking he just might have saved this one.

The man fights for his life over the course of several days, during which Frank befriends the man’s daughter: a compassionate, but troubled woman named Mary (Patricia Arquette).  As he steers his ambulance through the city’s rain-slicked streets, he and a revolving door of partners continue responding to calls.

He begins to notice that his calls all have one thing in common—a potent new street drug named Red Death whose tentacles are seemingly branching out into the city’s every nook and cranny.  As Frank follows the trail, his journey becomes a descent into an underworld of sickness and vice—and the only way back up into the light is the one thing constantly eluding him: self-redemption.

Nicolas Cage is a loaded name in cinema these days— the internet loves him for his special brand of wild-eyed and bizarrely-toupee’d performance, but the pedigree of the films he has chosen to partake in recently are… dubious, at best.  Thankfully, Scorsese recognizes Cage’s true strengths as an actor and puts them to sublime use in BRINGING OUT THE DEAD.

Cage’s gaunt physicality and heavy eyes are perfect at communicating a man who lives on the border between the living and the dead, acting as something of a ferryman at the river Styx.  Patricia Arquette, at her prime here, plays Mary, a sinner whose hidden compassion is brought out by Cage.  She comes to be seen in his eyes as a saint, and a path to salvation from of his own emotional purgatory.

John Goodman, Ving Rhames, and Tom Sizemore appear as Cage’s revolving door of paramedic partners, each with his own particular quirks and sensibilities.  Goodman plays Larry, a boisterously jovial man with his wits still lodged firmly on the ground.  Rhames plays Marcus, a suave and charismatic con man with a fondness for taking his tentpole-revivalist preaching and sermonizing out in the streets.

Sizemore plays Tom, a ticking time bomb of pent-up aggression and machismo.  Additionally, BRINGING OUT THE DEAD contains a few notable cameos in the form of indie horror producer Larry Fessenden as a cokehead, future THE WIRE star Michael K Williams as a shot-up gangbanger, and Scorsese himself in voice form as the radio dispatch operator.

After the dearth of familiar faces to be found in 1997’s KUNDUNBRINGING OUT THE DEAD brings us back home to New York, where regular collaborators like cinematographer Robert Richardson and production designer Dante Ferretti are readily available.  Filmed once again in the anamorphic 2.35:1 aspect ratio, BRINGING OUT THE DEAD is easily Scorsese’s grungiest, most-atmospheric film to date.

The dawn of digital color correction technology at the turn of the millennium allows Scorsese and Richardson to boost the mood of their visuals after the fact, enhancing the film’s rain-slicked blacktops with glowing neon lights so as to resemble a scene out of Ridley Scott’s sci-fi dystopia BLADE RUNNER (albeit without the futuristic aspects).

The contrast is stretched almost to a breaking point, where any hint of black falls right off into the abyss, and the color of white is so pure that it literally glows.  The overall color palette deals in blues, greens, greys, and cyans (notably colder than Scorsese’s conventionally warm color aesthetic), which makes it all the more striking when the color red does show up.

Like the lifeless cadavers he delivers to the emergency room, Frank Pierce’s world is one drained of color, and Scorsese’s strategic placement of reds cleverly conveys his transformation into a man rejuvenated by his experiences.

There was a distinct sense of nihilism to be found as the twentieth century drew to a close.  With the specter of Y2K looming large as an unknowable existential threat, the idea of the end of the world took on something of a begrudged acceptance in American culture.

BRINGING OUT THE DEAD capitalizes on this sentiment, conjuring a tone that’s reminiscent of a cocaine addict’s fever dream, or as one critic puts it: “a methamphetamine jag”.  Scorsese and his editing partner Thelma Schoonmaker take the template of TAXI DRIVER (lonely man watching city streets from his car, figures in the night obscured by expressionistic smoke and slow motion, etc.) and crank it into overdrive.

Hopped on this anxious, jittery energy, Frank and his partners fly through the city like bats out of hell, accompanied by an eclectic chorus of blues, soul, reggae, and punk music (UB40’s “Red Red Wine” is particularly used to outstanding effect).

BRINGING OUT THE DEAD is a fine return to form for Scorsese, the cinema’s great chronicler of New York City.  Towards the end of the film, Patricia Arquette’s character proclaims, “this city will kill you if you’re not strong enough.”  It’s a compelling conceit, one that echoes throughout several of Scorsese’s best works.

Much like 1985’s farcical AFTER HOURSBRINGING OUT THE DEAD revels in the collision of New York City’s various subcultures—Frank’s journeys take him all over town and into the homes, offices, and nightclubs of varying kinds of people.

Scorsese’s New York City is one of great diversity, and BRINGING OUT THE DEAD uses the institution of emergency care as a lens to examine all the various walks of life the city has to offer.  Finally, Scorsese’s long association with Roman Catholicism rears its head during a few scenes, when Frank and Mary talk about wanting to be priests and nuns.

BRINGING OUT THE DEAD flopped at the box office, but critics found no shortage of things to like about Scorsese’s last feature of the twentieth century.  While a cultural re-appraisal doesn’t yet seem to be in the cards for the near future, BRINGING OUT THE DEAD has a fair amount to offer in terms of signaling Scorsese’s development as an artist.

The most visible example is Scorsese’s discovery of stylized color correction as a tool to convey mood and tone— a platform he’d build upon in later films like THE AVIATOR (2004) and SHUTTER ISLAND (2010).  In returning to TAXI DRIVER’s sphere of influence, Scorsese’s fourth (and final) collaboration with Schrader doesn’t quite recapture the magic of that first effort.  Instead, BRINGING OUT THE DEAD is an entirely different beast altogether, complete with a beating heart all its own.


MY VOYAGE TO ITALY (2001)

At the dawn of the new millennium, director Martin Scorsese was approaching a major life milestone—the venerated filmmaker was turning sixty, which meant that he was now emerging from middle age into his twilight years.  While most people his age would start preparing for retirement by now, Scorsese was beginning a third act in his career—one that would finally see Academy recognition and prestige on the world stage with works just as dynamic and energetic as his early films.

Faced with the fact that the bulk of his career was now behind him, Scorsese was compelled to once again pay homage to his heritage and his influences.  He partnered with longtime producer (and ex-wife) Barbara De Fina, as well as Italian fashion icon Giorgio Armani (the subject of Scorsese’s 1990 documentary MADE IN MILAN) to make a documentary on the legacy of Italian cinema and its voices.

Adopting the clip-heavy template of A PERSONAL JOURNEY WITH MARTIN SCORSESE THROUGH AMERICAN MOVIES (1995), Scorsese set about making MY VOYAGE TO ITALY—a four-hour odyssey to Italy through the eyes of its greatest filmmakers.

Hosted by Scorsese himself, MY VOYAGE TO ITALY uses a treasure trove of film clips to study the broad sweep of Italian culture and history during the twentieth century.  We’re all aware of Italy’s role in the Great American Century– beginning with the mass exodus of hopeful immigrants to Ellis Island, to the rise of dictatorial fascism via Mussolini and an ill-fated union with Germany in World War II.

Scorsese takes a particularly personal tack in his approach to the subject matter, detailing how Italian cinema affected his family and helped link their home in Little Italy to the Old World of Sicily.  He focuses acutely on influential Italian filmmakers like Roberto Rossellini, Vittorio De Sica, Luchino Visconti, and Federico Fellini—all of whom had profound influences on Scorsese’s artistic aesthetic.

He describes his experiences watching their films as he charts the development of Italian Neorealism, beginning with its inception in Rossellini’s ROME OPEN CITY(1945) and all the way through works like PAISAN (1945), BICYCLE THIEVES (1948), JOURNEY TO ITALY (1954), GERMANY YEAR ZERO (1948), STROMBOLI (1950), EUROPA ’51 (1952), UMBERTO D (1952) and 1953’s I VITELLONI(which would be a huge influence on Scorsese’s own MEAN STREETS (1973).

He traces how these filmmakers inspired artists of the French New Wave, artists like Jean-Luc Godard and Francois Truffaut who lit young Scorsese’s imagination alight and motivated him to make films for himself.  The hosting footage with Scorsese is filmed in 35mm black and white, effortlessly fitting in with the monochromatic Italian films thanks to the participation of longtime editing partner Thelma Schoonmaker.

Despite its existence as a broad overview of Italian cinema at the macro scale, MY VOYAGE TO ITALY is as personal as documentaries get.  Scorsese’s longtime exploration of the Italian immigrant experience in America is given added nuance and subtext, showing the audience how his homeland’s cinematic culture has shaped his people’s assimilation into American culture and laid the groundwork for a new set of social customs and traditions going forward.

When paired together with its companion piece A PERSONAL JOURNEY THROUGH AMERICAN MOVIES, we get an incredibly intimate glimpse into Scorsese’s artistic heritage, with Scorsese solidifying his position as the preeminent steward of the world’s cinematic legacy.


GANGS OF NEW YORK (2002)

Thanks to the rise of home video, it has become all but inevitable that we’ll see an R-rated film before the MPAA-mandated age of seventeen.  However, it still somehow feels like a rite of passage to take in one’s first R-rated film at the movie theatre after crossing that age barrier.  For me, that experience was particularly impactful—a few days after reaching that magic number in 2002, I went to go see a new film titled GANGS OF NEW YORK.

By this time, I had already decided that I wanted to pursue film as a career and had begun my cinematic education in earnest.  I knew that the film was directed by Martin Scorsese, and that he was a giant of the art form, but seeing as this was the first work of his I ever saw, I quite simply had no idea what to expect.

In a way, I suppose I was always predisposed to liking GANGS OF NEW YORK—I’ve long been particularly fascinated by the history and culture surrounding the Civil War and the mid-1800s (I even went through a strange Tom Sawyer phase when I was in grade school).  But even my own enthusiasm for the time period couldn’t quite prepare me for the purely visceral experience of seeing GANGS OF NEW YORK for the first time.

It literally blew my young self away—a reaction only matched by my first viewing of Paul Thomas Anderson’s BOOGIE NIGHTS (1997) a few years later during college.  I became a little obsessed with GANGS OF NEW YORK, even going so far as to read the 1920’s-era source novel by Herbert Asbury.  From that point on, I was firmly in Scorsese’s camp, and GANGS OF NEW YORK reigned for quite a while as my favorite film of all time.

Going by my unbridled enthusiasm for the film, you’d think it was a universally beloved landmark in contemporary cinema.  However, GANGS OF NEW YORK was received by the masses as something of a wounded lion—powerful and awe-inspiring, but ultimately compromised by fatal flaws.

I can only imagine that this must’ve come as a great disappointment to Scorsese, who had wanted to make the film since he first read Asbury’s novel in 1970.  The troubled development history of GANGS OF NEW YORK is long, with a version starring Malcolm McDowell– fresh off his breakout in Stanley Kubrick’s A CLOCKWORK ORANGE (1971) –nearly going into production after the success of 1976’s TAXI DRIVER.

  This was during the heyday of the American auteur, when art-minded directors easily found funding for expansive passion projects.  That is, until the cataclysmic failure of Michael Cimino’s indulgent HEAVEN’S GATE (1980) brought that era to an abrupt end, and Scorsese’s first iteration of GANGS OF NEW YORK was indefinitely shelved.

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Fast forward to the late 1990’s.  Scorsese was now pushing 60;  worlds removed from the young man that he was in the 70’s.  The raw, uncompromising works that established his career had been tempered by a string of disappointments and small victories (most notably, 1990’s GOODFELLAS).  However, as the new millennium loomed on the horizon, Scorsese found his value in the business slowly declining.

He hadn’t had a bona fide hit since 1991’s CAPE FEAR, and his most recent film—BRINGING OUT THE DEAD (1999)—hadn’t performed as well as he had hoped.  On the set of that film, Scorsese was visited by longtime friend and agent Mike Ovitz, who asked the director what project he wanted to do more than anything.  Scorsese’s reply was simple—“Gangs of New York”.

Ovitz had been instrumental in helping Scorsese bring previous passion projects to the screen, and he was extremely beneficial in this regard towards GANGS OF NEW YORK.  He brought producers Alberto Grimaldi and Harvey Weinstein on board to produce, and helped to snag the participation of rising star Leonardo DiCaprio—a crucial development in securing funding.

While there was no way Scorsese could have known at the time, the production of GANGS OF NEW YORK would coincide with one of the most defining events in the city’s history—the September 11th terrorist attacks in 2001.  What would result is a film whose epic scope is given something of a personal touch by a filmmaker who’s life and art had been so fundamentally shaped by the city of New York.

It would become an imperfect, wounded love letter to a heartbroken city and the bloody passion of all those who built it.

GANGS OF NEW YORK tells the story of the infamous Five Points neighborhood in Manhattan, a notorious slum which has long since been bulldozed over to make way for civic judicial structures and Columbus Park.  Because this particular neighborhood no longer existed in the way that it did during the film’s Civil War setting, it had to be recreated entirely from scratch.

A gargantuan, mile-long backlot was constructed at Italy’s world-famous Cinecitta film studio, a massive undertaking that Scorsese himself admitted would probably never be replicated ever again.  Scorsese’s contemporary George Lucas would validate this notion during a set visit where he remarked, “you know, they can build all of this in the computer now.”

While this may be true, watching GANGS OF NEW YORK makes it all too clear that a computer could never match the impact of an old-fashioned set.  Watching the film is akin to witnessing history coming alive, but this effect did not come effortlessly.  The production of GANGS OF NEW YORK was long and arduous, with Scorsese and Weinstein coming to blows quite often.

The story, written by Scorsese’s longtime friend and collaborator Jay Cocks, as well as Steven Zaillian and Kenneth Lonegan, distills the sprawling character and experience of life in The Five Points circa 1862 down to a battle between two strong-willed personalities.  In one corner, there’s Bill “The Butcher” Cutting (Daniel Day-Lewis), a native-born Protestant with a very strong “America for Americans” worldview and a sizable gang of followers who help him maintain power over the neighborhood.

His authority is challenged by Amsterdam Vallon (Leonardo DiCaprio)– the son of an Irish immigrant named Priest Vallon (Liam Neeson) who twenty years before had led a rival gang called The Dead Rabbits only to be cut down by Bill The Butcher’s blade.  Having spent the majority of his life in a reformatory outside the city, Amsterdam has returned to the Five Points as a young man—nearly unrecognizable to his father’s former cohorts, who have since exiled their convictions and ceded to The Butcher’s authority.

Amsterdam uses this anonymity to his advantage, managing to gain access to Bill’s inner circle as well as his trust.

Amsterdam plans to avenge his father by slaying Bill in a public manner, but while he waits for the perfect opportunity, he finds that Bill’s dark charisma is working itself on him—to the point that Amsterdam even throws himself into the line of fire to protect Bill from another would-be assassin.

When Amsterdam’s true identity is revealed by an act of betrayal, he’s cast out from The Five Points and brutally branded with the great indignity of being “the only man spared by The Butcher”.  He retreats underground to lick his wounds, only to rise back up again with renewed conviction.

He rebuilds The Dead Rabbits from the masses of disenfranchised Irish immigrants who made the journey to the new world looking for opportunity, only to find poverty and Bill’s indiscriminate scorn.  The immigrants are further angered by the civil unrest spreading throughout the city in response to the Civil War draft, which has polarized the population along economic lines.

Those who can pay $300 can send a substitute off to war in their place, which only feeds the mentality that the Civil War is a rich man’s war fought by the poor.   With temperatures and passions rising, the powder keg finally explodes into what would become known as the Great Draft Riots of New York, plunging the city into anarchy and violence as the armies of Amsterdam and Bill meet in Paradise Square to settle their beef once and for all.

Scorsese’s sweeping examination of organized crime’s roots during a forgotten chapter of New York’s history manages to attract top-tier talent like the aforementioned DiCaprio and Day-Lewis, among many others.  GANGS OF NEW YORK marks the first collaboration between Scorsese and DiCaprio, who has since gone on to become a filmmaking partner in a similar fashion to Scorsese’s earlier work with Robert De Niro.

Coincidentally, it was De Niro who clued Scorsese into DiCaprio as an actor he needed to work with, having been impressed by the young man’s superlative talents during their collaboration on Michael Caton-Jones’ THIS BOY’S LIFE in 1993.  Desperate to slough off of the teenage heartthrob reputation he had acquired from his performance in James Cameron’s TITANIC (1997), DiCaprio cultivates a feral grunge here as Amsterdam Vallon.

He depicts the character as crudely Machiavellian—hotheaded and undisciplined, yet single-mindedly focused on calculated vengeance.  The role of Bill The Butcher was initially offered to De Niro, but Daniel Day-Lewis proves arguably an even better choice as the jingoistic “Native” American.  His Bill is a far cry from the gentleman lawyer he played in THE AGE OF INNOCENCE (1993), his previous collaboration with Scorsese.

Sporting a waxed-up mustache, long plaid pants, and a glass eye adorned with an American eagle iris, Day-Lewis turns in a rather flamboyant, menacing performance.  He doesn’t shy away from the unsavory aspects of the character  (like his indiscriminate racism and bilious hatred for Abraham Lincoln), but he also embraces a darkly attractive charisma, imbuing it with a respectful reverence for the virtues of his enemies.

Day-Lewis completely immerses himself in the role, stalking around the Five Points as if he were intent on sucking up every last extra drop of oxygen before the foreign hordes can get to it.

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While the story hinges entirely on the dynamic between these two opposing personalities, Scorsese takes great care to flesh out the universe of characters spinning around their orbit (even placing himself into one scene as an unnamed aristocrat).  Cameron Diaz is effective as the lone female presence and DiCaprio’s love interest, a street-smart pickpocket named Jenny Everdeane.

John C. Reilly plays Happy Jack Mulraney, a former Dead Rabbit turned corrupt cop, while unabashedly-Irish actor Brendan Gleeson plays a fellow former Dead Rabbit who pursues a righteous future as a community leader with political aspirations.  Finally, there’s Liam Neeson as Priest Vallon, Amsterdam’s father and the fallen leader of the Dead Rabbits.  He’s seen only in the beginning battle, but is instantly memorable as a devout Roman Catholic leader with the heart of a warrior.

GANGS OF NEW YORK is a peculiar sort of historical epic, in that its grandiose sweep is confined to a relatively small, extremely grimy section of Manhattan.  This deliberate mixture of nineteenth-century grunge and operatic theatricality is captured on 35mm film in the 2.35:1 anamorphic aspect ratio by Scorsese’s longtime cinematographer Michael Ballhaus, who comes back into the filmmaker’s fold after an extended absence.

The color palette deals primarily in earthy browns, searing reds, and amber sepias (along with shocking pops of blue).  Overall, the picture is very warm, owing in large part to the decision to illuminate this pre-electrical world with lots of candlelight. Scorsese and Ballhaus take every opportunity to show off production designer Dante Ferretti’s expansive sets with sumptuous crane, dolly and Steadicam shots.

One such shot in particular is incredibly striking, in that it is acts as a condensed, poetic metaphor for the trajectory of a soldier.  In one fluid move, Scorsese shows gaggles of Irish immigrants queuing up for military enlistment, then moves on to another group getting fitted for uniforms and boarding ships bound for battle while coffins containing dead soldiers returning from the battlefield are unloaded to make room for new blood.

It’s not exactly subtle, but it is very elegant in execution, fitting right in line with Scorsese’s long line of iconic tracking shots throughout his career.  Combined with other signature visual techniques like whip-pans, split-focus diopter compositions, and a dynamic edit by longtime editor Thelma Schoonmaker, GANGS OF NEW YORK is classic Scorsese, and then some—its outsized aspirations are reminiscent of the storyboards the prepubescent Scorsese drew for imagined Roman epics long before he ever touched a foot of celluloid.

To realize his vision of Civil War-era New York from a musical standpoint, Scorses reteams with his AFTER HOURS (1985) composer Howard Shore, whose profile was experiencing a huge surge in popularity at the time due to his work on Peter Jackson’s THE LORD OF THE RINGS TRILOGY (2001-2003).

Because of the massive undertaking such a job entails, it is perhaps somewhat inevitable that the lilting, fairytale feel of Shore’s LOTR cues seeps into his approach for GANGS OF NEW YORK.  The score is very orchestral, highlighted by low, heavy strings as well as fiddles to evoke the Irish heritage of the film’s protagonists.

Former The Band frontman and longtime Scorsese musical consultant Robbie Robertson utilizes his extensive knowledge of American folk music to cherry pick an eclectic mix of sounds that give a modern edge to antiquated rhythms and tones.  The approach is somewhat anachronistic, but it works on an emotional level.  The use of Mississippi mountain blues goes a long way towards communicating a sense of what the streets sounded like at the time, while newer works like Peter Gabriel’s “Signal To Noise” or even U2’s “The Hands That Built America” (one of the few U2 songs I can actually stand) work overtime to connect these long-ago people and events to our time.

This appeal to modern culture permeates the film, with Scorsese going to great lengths to avoid the airs of a stuffy costume pageant.  Instead, he blurs New York City’s history in a somewhat expressionistic manner that seems to encapsulate the entirety of the city’s social story within the Five Points neighborhood.  GANGS OF NEW YORK begins in an incredibly compelling fashion—down in the subterranean labyrinths of a manmade cave, populated by what looks to be a medieval tribe of people preparing for war.

We could be anywhere, anytime.  We follow these people up to the surface, realizing that the caves are underneath what appears to be a large brick brewery.  The warriors emerge onto the snowy streets of a small village and engage in battle with an opposing tribe.  Scorsese’s camera soars above the bloody aftermath, pulling further and further out to reveal that this tiny, primitive village is in fact what we know today as the bustling metropolis of Manhattan, circa 1846.

Had we not known the title to the film in the first place, this revelation would surely rank among cinema’s most shocking surprises.

Just as the beginning of GANGS OF NEW YORK evokes the tribal nature of the origins of civilization, so too does the film allude to the present with its final shot, which features Amsterdam and Jenny walking away from the graves of Priest Vallon and Bill The Butcher, which stand on a hill in Brooklyn overlooking the Manhattan skyline.

Scorsese dwells on this shot, crossfading as the decades pass and the Manhattan skyline transforms before our very eyes.  The Brooklyn Bridge appears, and then church steeples are replaced with early skyscrapers, themselves dwarfed by even taller, modern skyscrapers (all the while, the graves in the foreground are reclaimed by nature and fall into ruin).

Finally, the skyline appears as it did in the 2002 present-day, albeit with one major alteration: the presence of the World Trade Center towers, which in real life had been destroyed in terrorist attacks only a year earlier.

This inclusion was somewhat controversial, but Scorsese’s decision to keep them in (when everyone else was rushing to scrub them out) is reinforced by a body of work that is inherently about New York City and the people who built it (the triumphant strings of U2’s “The Hands That Built America” swelling over the soundtrack drives this notion home with all of the subtlety of a bull in a china shop).

Thirteen years after the film’s release, this shot remains as breathtaking as it’s ever been, and stands as one of the most moving directorial flourishes in Scorsese’s body of work.

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Despite the story occurring over a hundred years ago, GANGS OF NEW YORK boasts  several similarities to our current political climate.  The film depicts an America greatly divided over various economic, political, and racial lines—a situation largely spurned on by a controversial, transformative President with lofty, progressive ambitions for the country’s future.

Bill The Butcher’s open hatred for Abraham Lincoln could just as easily be transplanted today to certain sects of the population who despise Barack Obama.  In both cases, the offended party is threatened by a President who wants to diminish their stranglehold on power and influence in favor of bringing equality to Americans from all stripes of life.

In both cases, they come across like dinosaurs refusing to cede the world to mammals, completely unaware that a giant meteor has just entered the atmosphere.  Watching GANGS OF NEW YORK in today’s context, it becomes clear Scorsese has hit on sentiments that stretch back to the country’s very founding, and as such they are an inescapable part of our social fabric and identity.  This gives the film an added immediacy that will remain relevant into the foreseeable future.

GANGS OF NEW YORK is arguably the most overt example of Scorsese’s career-long exploration of the immigrant street-life experience in New York City, where conflict is driven by the eternal clash of opposing subcultures, ethnicities, and heritages.

These conflicts usually explode in fits of messy, chaotic violence, documented by Scorsese’s camera in an almost-documentarian manner—but in GANGS OF NEW YORK, these hostile exchanges take on the air of blood-soaked opera in their sweeping expressionism.  Scorsese’s Roman Catholic heritage also plays an integral role in the proceedings, with the character of Priest Vallon becoming the personification of Catholic ideals and virtues (albeit in the body of a ferocious warrior).

Priest’s (and by extension, the Irish’s) identification as Catholic stands at strict odds against Bill the Butcher’s Protestant worldview, who’s unwavering belief in the supremacy of America and its founders leads him to be vehemently opposed to those whose loyalties lie an ocean away with the Pope.  Quite literally, the central conflict in GANGS OF NEW YORK is between Church and State.

A tattered American flag is displayed prominently on a wall in Bill’s quarters, while the newly-reformed Dead Rabbits take over a local Catholic church as their home base– providing Scorsese yet again with the opportunity to fill the frame with the various iconography of Catholicism.

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The process of making GANGS OF NEW YORK was a difficult, drawn-out one that saw numerous delays.  It was so long, in fact, that Scorsese was able to release another project—a short film called “THE NEIGHBORHOOD” that screened during The Concert For New York City, a benefit concert held in October 2001 in response to the 9/11 attacks.

When GANGS OF NEW YORK was finally released in 2002, the city’s wounds were still raw, and as such, they might not have quite known what to make of it (especially that final shot prominently featuring the Twin Towers).  This translated to somewhat disappointing box office numbers and mixed reception from critics, who appreciated Scorsese’s ambition and intent but felt the execution didn’t quite stack up.

Some critics would make an interesting observation that GANGS OF NEW YORK could be read as the end of the western film overlapping with the gangster picture, while others noted an increasing reliance on computer-generated imagery that sucked out the sense of immediacy and vitality that made his earlier work so affecting.

Despite the lukewarm reception, the film was nominated for ten Academy Awards, including Best Picture, Director, Actor (Day-Lewis), Screenplay, Cinematography, and Editing.  While it would win nothing, the film’s strong awards show presence was enough to knock Scorsese out of his recent slump and renew his energies towards creating a string of critically and financially successful works that count among the best in his career.

The beginning of the 21st century would coincide with the beginning of a third act for Scorsese—one that would see him take on the role of cinema’s elder statesman and finally bring him his long-overdue Oscar.


JOHNNIE WALKER “SCORSESE” COMMERCIAL (2002)

In between 2002’s GANGS OF NEW YORK and his 2004 follow-up feature, THE AVIATOR, director Martin Scorsese embarked on a series of projects that saw him step in front of the camera once again, not as an artist, but as a personality and authority figure in the mass media conversation.

Thanks to the success of his feature film career, Scorsese hadn’t directed a commercial since he was a young filmmaker struggling to get his first feature off the ground in 1968.

Several decades later, however, Scorsese didn’t need to make commercials to pay the rent, so his taking on a spot in 2002 for whiskey brand Johnnie Walker speaks to a genuine interest in the subject matter.  And why shouldn’t he be interested— the subject matter is HIM.  Titled “SCORSESE”, the commercial is a strange bit of advertising in that it doesn’t actually allude to whiskey or a product of any sort.

Instead, it is more of a lifestyle spot, providing a fictionally exaggerated look into Scorsese’s interior monologue in a bid to make the audience associate Johnnie Walker with a seasoned artistic elegance.

The spot is rendered in the visual and tonal aesthetic of Scorsese’s seminal work, TAXI DRIVER (1976), right down to the text font and Bernard Herrmann’s score.   Instead of Travis Bickle driving through the city and delivering a monologue on his hatred of New York’s street scum, we get Scorsese riding in the back seat of a taxi and observing the street life around in wistful admiration.

The color palette is very cold, emphasizing blues and greens that blend together in a series of cross fades and speed ramps that suggest a hybrid between TAXI DRIVER and BRINGING OUT THE DEAD (1999).

This being a spot that highlights Scorsese himself—a portrait of the artist, if you will—it’s expected that the director’s signatures (like the NYC setting and an appreciation for film history) will be front and center.

In a way, “SCORSESE” is a quick primer on the director’s worldview and lifestyle to those who, in the wake of his return to the highest echelons of treasured American filmmakers, are only now just becoming aware of the profound mark he’s left on the art form.


THE BLUES: FEEL LIKE GOING HOME (2003)

In the fall of my junior year in college, I took a class on the history of American blues music.  Outside of another class on the sociological impact of world cities, this was a pretty striking break from an otherwise long stream of film production and theory classes.

Prior to taking the class, I wouldn’t have really called myself a blues aficionado—I was only taking the class in the first place because The History of Rock And Roll was all booked up.    Thankfully, the blues class turned out to be one of my favorite classes of my entire college experience, and I relished the homework that sent me out to various blues festivals and concerts around Boston so I could report back on the experience.

I came to see blues as not only its own distinct genre, but the ancestor of pretty much all popular American music today, from jazz, to rock and roll, and even to hip-hop.  It’s an incredibly eye-opening experience to see the interconnectedness of various musical genres, giving an immense appreciation for all styles regardless of personal taste.

This class was also where I first saw an episode from a documentary series titled THE BLUES (2003), commissioned by director Martin Scorsese in collaboration with several other prominent filmmakers in a bid to chronicle America’s musical heritage through the prism of blues music.

Scorsese himself directed the premiere episode, “FEEL LIKE GOING HOME”, which chronicles the genre’s beginnings in the Mississippi Delta region as well as its roots further back in Africa.  Hosting via voiceover,

Scorsese blends together a mix of archival footage and original video documentary work in a bid to profile some of the biggest names in blues music: Lead Belly, John Lee Hooker, Muddy Waters (who showed up in Scorsese’s 1978 concert film, THE LAST WALTZ), Son House, and Charley Patton.

Perhaps as a reference to his previous work (2002’s GANGS OF NEW YORK), Scorsese opens the documentary with a drum and fife performance similar to the music heard at the beginning of his historical epic.  Indeed, THE BLUES: “FEEL LIKE GOING HOME” is a natural fit within Scorsese’s documentary career, continuing his longtime exploration of rock music and its culture.

What’s perhaps most telling about Scorsese’s own personal interests is the significant amount of time he dedicates to the subject of John Lomax, who collaborated with the Library of Congress to travel the country and record authentic regional folk music in the early twentieth century.

Scorsese has made something of a side career for himself in his efforts with film preservation, and just as he believes its important to preserve our cinematic heritage, so too does he relate to Lomax’s own bid to chronicle the work of a certain set of people during a certain point of time before they’re lost to the tidal sweep of history.

All told, THE BLUES: “FEEL LIKE GOING HOME” is an interesting foray into the history of blues music, as told by an artist who was fundamentally shaped by the genre and has incorporated it into his own aesthetic.


AMERICAN EXPRESS COMMERCIALS (2004)

2004 was one of the busier years for director Martin Scorsese, who had been showing no signs of slowing down in his sixty-two years. Indeed, he was on the cusp of a new act in his career, which would see him garner international acclaim and recognition and establish his legacy as one of America’s pre-eminent stewards of the film art form.

He was putting the finishing touches on THE AVIATOR, his follow-up feature to 2002’s GANGS OF NEW YORK that was scheduled for release later on that year. He also found time to direct a television documentary for the History Channel, LADY THE SEA: THE STATUE OF LIBERTY (2004), commissioned to commemorate the grand re-opening of the iconic New York landmark after its closure following 9/11.

The documentary was produced in partnership with American Express, who also hired Scorsese that same year to direct two commercials that paid homage to the treasured filmmaker and his relationship with New York City.

“TRIBECA”

The first spot out of the gate was an ad produced in conjunction with the Tribeca Film Festival, a New York-based festival established by actor Robert De Niro. Serving as an unofficial reunion between the star and his longtime director, “TRIBECA”features De Niro walking the streets of New York while reflecting on his relationship to its people and culture.

Scorsese creates a somber mood, bathing the frame in a monochromatic cobalt cast, cutting away from De Niro’s weathered mug to the clash of cultures that the city plays host to on a daily basis. While the reunion is fleeting and doesn’t offer much in the way of growth for either man, it’s nice to see them working together once again after their last collaboration nearly ten years prior in CASINO.

“ONE HOUR PHOTO”

The second spot, “ONE HOUR PHOTO” features Scorsese himself in front of the camera, lampooning his image with a gag that sees him obsessing over how the photos he took at his nephew’s birthday party turned out. It’s a pretty memorable ad, one that distinctly stood out to me when it first aired and that I still remember fondly.

The spot manages to capture the peculiar manic energy and rapier wit of Scorsese via the fast-paced editing and the curious choice to compose his set-ups with a large degree of headroom. An interesting note about this spot is that it really reinforces a particular perception of Scorsese’s character that was taking hold at the time—the idea of Scorsese as “Uncle Marty”, a jovial, grandfatherly man with a big heart and a mischievous twinkle in his eye.

This is far removed from the young man Scorsese was at the beginning of his career: hoovering up lines of cocaine and threatening studio executives with handguns. We all tend to become gentler and mellowed out as we grow older, and the name of “Uncle Marty” becomes perhaps the best way to describe the master filmmaker during his late career resurgence.


THE AVIATOR (2004)

Despite the somewhat-middling success of his period epic, GANGS OF NEW YORK (2002), director Martin Scorsese experienced a resurgent wave of popularity and critical appreciation that re-established his position as one of the world’s greatest living filmmakers.

Even though GANGS OF NEW YORK underperformed against expectations, a plurality of public goodwill prodded Scorsese towards yet another period epic—and another shot at the golden statue that had eluded him ever since his first nomination for RAGING BULL in 1980.

This new attempt would be 2004’s THE AVIATOR, a lavish biopic about eccentric billionaire Howard Hughes and his innovations in the field of flight. The project, like Scorsese’s Oscar ambitions, had long been in development—the earliest version dates back to the early 1970’s as a vehicle for Warren Beatty.

As the twentieth century gave way to the twenty-first, the project landed under the stewardship of director Michael Mann, who had just come off a string of biopics like 1999’s THE INSIDER and 2001’s ALI and was developing the project in partnership with Leonardo DiCaprio’s production company, Appian Way.

When Mann decided that he no longer wanted to direct, DiCaprio immediately took the project to Scorsese, expressing a fervent desire to work with the master filmmaker again after their successful collaboration in GANGS OF NEW YORK. Scorsese agreed to take on the project, and despite knowing absolutely nothing about aviation, was able to channel his love for old Hollywood and cinema history into making THE AVIATOR an exhilarating spectacle that would count as one of the biggest successes of his career.

Despite their friction on the set of GANGS OF NEW YORKTHE AVIATOR finds Scorsese reteaming with executive producers Harvey and Bob Weinstein to realize a script by John Logan, who sets the action in California during the prime of Hughes’ life: a twenty year period that spanned the Roaring Twenties and World War II.

Hughes was a notable figure in American history—he was the country’s first billionaire, and was responsible for a number of game-changing innovations that would make aviation one of the dominant forces of the twentieth century. He was the embodiment of that particular brand of rugged individualism espoused by figures like Ayn Rand and perpetuated by hypocritical politicians who lack the courage to make bold choices out of the fear of alienating their base—but I digress.

THE AVIATOR follows Hughes from his days as an idealistic young man mounting his troubled passion project—a film called HELL’S ANGELS— and continuing onwards to chronicle his efforts to build the fastest, sleekest airplanes around. His high-profile business exploits, romantic dalliances with the biggest movie starlets of the day, and bottomless pockets make him the toast of the town.

He ably projects the aura of a charismatic playboy and titan of industry, but in private, he is a tortured soul—beset by his escalating condition as an obsessive-compulsive germaphobe and the looming encroachment of a US Government intent on discrediting him as a fraud. As his sanity threatens to depart from him entirely, Hughes channels his energies and obsessions into building the world’s largest airplane—a plane he lovingly calls The Hercules but the press dismisses as The Spruce Goose.

Building it is one thing… but getting it to fly is something else entirely, and it becomes a challenge that Hughes will only overcome by putting his reputation and entire life’s work on the line.

In his second collaboration for Scorsese, DiCaprio assumes a nasally affectation to channel the spirit of Hughes- an eccentric billionaire, filmmaker, aviator, and all-around Renaissance Man. While he can easily assume the persona of a rich playboy, the necessity of believably conveying a man crippled by his OCD provides a great challenge—the sort of challenge usually rewarded with an Oscar.

DiCaprio has often been called out for what appears to be a constant campaign to win a gold statue for himself, but the fact of the matter is that the guy is one of the best actors out there. He pours all of himself into every performance, just like Robert De Niro did at his age—it’s no wonder Scorsese continues to work with him again and again. As expected, DiCaprio was nominated for his performance, but he didn’t leave the ceremony with an Oscar of his own. That honor would to go his co-star Cate Blanchett, who would hold the dubiously-meta distinction of being the first person to win an Oscar for her performance as a real-life Oscar winner. As golden age Hollywood icon Katharine Hepburn, Blanchett slathers on a thick Transatlantic accent to play the spunky, tomboyish thespian. Character actor Alan Alda plays Senator Owen Brewster, the film’s de facto antagonist—a cynical, calculating man who harbors a personal grudge against Hughes and uses his powers as a politician to pursue his petty vendetta.

As befitting a lavish period epic detailing the golden heyday of old Hollywood, Scorsese populates his supporting cast with some high-profile faces. Kate Beckinsale plays a secondary love in Hughes’ life– the aloof, sultry starlet Ava Gardner.

Beckinsale plays her as strong-willed and tempestuous, but she also allows us a glimpse into the character’s hidden compassionate side when she helps pull Hughes out of a debilitating downward spiral brought on by a particularly harmful obsessive compulsive episode. After his turn as a corrupt cop in GANGS OF NEW YORK, John C Reilly is called right back to action as Noah Deitrich, Hughes’ money man and business partner.

Danny Huston plays Jack Frye, Hughes’ partner at TWA. Alec Baldwin essentially plays himself, but in the guise of a Pan Am executive by the name of Juan Trippe. Interestingly, some of the most recognizable faces in the film are relegated to cameos, like the appearance of Gwen Stefani in the persona of platinum blonde starlet Jean Harlow, or Jude Law as the debonair actor Errol Flynn.

There’s also THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST (1988) star Willem Dafoe, who pops up in in one scene as a private investigator who’s Communist sympathies are used against him as blackmail.

Collaborating once more with his CASINO (1995) and BRINGING OUT THE DEAD (1999) cinematographer, Robert Richardson, Scorsese applies a drastically different look to THE AVIATOR than any of his prior films—netting Richardson an Oscar win of his own in the process. The most immediately striking aspect of the visual presentation is the color timing of the anamorphic film image.

By 2004, digital intermediates were commonplace, and the tool set that a filmmaker had to manipulate his or her image had multiplied exponentially. Whereas most filmmakers at the time were giving their films highly stylized looks simply for the sake that that they could, Scorsese stood beside other artists like the Coen Brothers in using stylized color timing as a valuable storytelling tool.

In keeping with his extensive knowledge of film history, Scorsese colors THE AVIATOR in a way that conveys the look of color films from the era, depending on the technical limitations of the time. For instance, the first half of the film is rendered in various shades of red and blue—notice that there is no green whatsoever.

Indeed, the fact that naturally green objects, like grass on a golf course or peas on a plate, turn up in a bright blue hue caused many people to wonder if their projectionist was projecting a faulty print, or if was off on their TV sets. This is intentional—a look that’s meant to replicate the capabilities of the bipack color process that was in use during the 20’s and 30s—a process that could only convey color in shades of red and blue.

As time passes, Scorsese quietly switches to a naturalistic, albeit highly saturated color scheme—if we missed the greens before, they’re certainly here now and they won’t be ignored. This look resembles the midcentury advent of 3-strip Technicolor, a primitive iteration of the process now in ubiquitous use today. Scorsese complements this exaggerated color timing with theatrical, expressionistic lighting setups.

One shot in particular acts like a variation on Scorsese’s signature “iris shot”, wherein DiCaprio’s head is framed looking out onto a black void in the background, which is then illuminated section by section to reveal the large crowd before him.

Scorsese retains several core elements of his visual aesthetic in THE AVIATOR, like the constant use of Steadicam rigs, split-focus diopter compositions, push-ins, and long tracking shots. The sheer momentum of Scorsese’s camera allows for a dynamic, energetic, and Oscar-winning edit from his longtime cutting collaborator Thelma Schoonmaker.

Production designer Dante Ferretti also took home a golden statue for his Art Deco-inspired set designs, which help sell the exaggerated, grandiose sense of history that Scorsese is after. It’s interesting to note that a director’s most valuable technical collaborators– the cinematographer, editor, and production designer– all won Oscars for their work on THE AVIATOR; work that was done under the singular direction of Scorsese, who himself would be shut out from sharing in that glory with his collaborators despite a nomination of his own.

After their successful collaboration on GANGS OF NEW YORK, Scorsese re-enlists the talents of Howard Shore, who takes his biggest cues from the classical music that Scorsese inserts into various aviation scenes. To accomplish this, Shore incorporates several classical techniques, like fugues and canons, into his own compositions, supplementing them with trumpets and other regal-sounding instruments.

In order to give us a definitive sense of the period, Scorsese sprinkles the soundtracks with needle-drop cues featuring the rock music of the day: jazz, ragtime, and swing. He makes particularly strong use of Artie Shaw’s track “Nightmare”, as well as the Glenn Miller Orchestra’s “Moonlight Serenade”, hammering home the film’s 1930’s/40’s setting and capturing the romanticism of a bygone era in Hollywood history.

Despite personally knowing nothing about aviation itself, Scorsese’s approach to making THE AVIATOR comes across as personal and resonant as a result of the director drawing several connections from Hughes’ life to his own. The film’s first act concerns Hughes’ attempts to shoot his independent opus HELL’S ANGELS and gain entry into the elite bubble of Hollywood.

Scorsese knew this struggle well, having risen up through the indie ranks himself with low-budget labors of love like WHO’S THAT KNOCKING AT MY DOOR? (1967) and MEAN STREETS (1973). The medium of film itself has always played a prominent role in the lives of Scorsese’s characters, and THE AVIATOR allows him to indulge in this affectation to an unprecedented degree.

The characters of THE AVIATOR are filmmakers themselves, key players living in a momentous time in cinematic history– the transition from silent pictures to sound—and their reactions to such developments comprise significant plot points within the narrative.

Scorsese has dabbled in this period before, in the guise of 1977’s revisionist musical NEW YORK, NEW YORK. Indeed, many of the scenes set in the lavish nightclub recall moments and imagery from his earlier film. However, THE AVIATOR gives us a much more comprehensive view of the era, utilizing the latest advances in computer-generated technology to bring the era back to life in glorious Technicolor.

While CGI has enabled Scorsese to realize his vision on a scale never before possible for him, it has had the unfortunate side effect of an increased reliance on the technology—making his recent output appear more stylized and fantastical than the rough, gritty street epics that he’s best known for.

However, audiences didn’t seem to particularly care for the loss of raw immediacy in favor of polished sleekness, as THE AVIATOR was met with positive critical reception and very healthy box office numbers. The film holds the distinction of being the first of Scorsese’s films to break the $100 million mark in grosses during its initial theatrical run.

Besides the aforementioned Oscar wins for Blanchett, Richardson, Schoonmaker and Ferretti, THE AVIATOR would go on to snag Academy Award nods for Best Picture and Best Director, for a grand total of eleven Oscar nominations.

In finding the wide success that had eluded THE GANGS OF NEW YORKTHE AVIATORpropelled Scorsese to even loftier heights as the most-nominated living director (equal to the late Billy Wilder and second only to the late William Wyler), and reinforced his entrance into a third act in his career—an act that would bring him international prestige and cement his legacy.


NO DIRECTION HOME: BOB DYLAN (2005)

When I went off to college, I experienced an explosion in terms of my awareness of the music world. My exposure to different artists and genres was no longer limited to the radio, and I began devouring music of every type in a process resembling a chain reaction– the discovery of an interesting artist led me to research into their influences, which would then spiderweb into a broader excursion into their influences. Towards the end of my freshman year, I began really getting into Bob Dylan’s particular brand of politically-charged protest folk.

I eagerly told my parents about my newfound taste for Dylan, assuming that since they were growing up in the same period Dylan achieved popularity, they would naturally be fans themselves. I was taken aback to find out that my mother had no taste for him whatsoever—the news that I was into Dylan was met with mild disgust. I couldn’t comprehend why at the time, but as I began to delve deeper into Dylan’s artistic legacy, I became aware of just how divisive a figure he was in music and pop culture.

During my college years, Bob Dylan was undergoing something of a cultural re-appreciation, no doubt inspired by his latent relevance in the wake of protests against the war in Iraq. In 2007, director Todd Haynes released his expressionistic Dylan biopic I’M NOT THERE, which attempted to chronicle Dylan’s various artistic personas through the years as a series of vignettes revolving around fictional manifestations of said personas.

A few years earlier, Dylan’s manager seemed to have anticipated Dylan’s reinvigorated profile and commissioned a documentary film about the folk singer’s life and career. He conducted several filmed interviews with Dylan himself, among others, and gathered a mountain of archival concert footage.

He just needed someone to shape it, and to accomplish this, he turned to director Martin Scorsese, whose legendary rock documentary THE LAST WALTZ (1978) featured Dylan performing onstage with The Band and established the director as an astute scholar of rock and roll music. To help him in his task, Scorsese recruited his ex-wife and former producing partner Barbara De Fina and editor David Tedeschi.

In 2005, Scorsese released NO DIRECTION HOME: BOB DYLAN, which initially aired on PBS as part of the American Masters series, but was soon quickly released to home video.

Dylan has been around for a long time now, but Scorsese chooses to concern himself with the most tumultuous period of Dylans’ career, beginning with his childhood in 1950’s Minnesota, to his rapid rise in the Greenwich Village folk scene in New York, and ending with his quasi-retirement following a motorcycle accident in the late 1960’s.

 NO DIRECTION HOME uses a mix of vintage concert footage, archival stock film, and talking head interviews to create an oral history of Dylan’s music and its artistic and sociological impact on a country deeply divided over the Vietnam War. Scorsese digs deep, tracing Dylan’s roots and influences—especially his fascination with Woody Guthrie—and doesn’t shy away from showing some of Dylan’s alienating character traits (and the backlash they engendered).

Watching NO DIRECTION HOME, it’s a no-brainer on why Dylan’s manager decided to approach Scorsese. The film falls stands shoulder to shoulder with THE LAST WALTZ and Scorsese’s other chronicles of the social history of rock and roll music.

Vestiges of the director’s own personality crop up, such as the detailing of street life around Minnesota parades, or the inclusion of clips from old films like THE WILD ONE (1953) and REBEL WITHOUT A CAUSE (1955). Scorsese foregoes one of his most visible documentary tropes (appearing onscreen as the host, narrator, or interviewer) in favor of one singular instance of voice recording in which he recreates one of Dylan’s public speeches.

Rewarded with a Grammy for direction of a long-form video, Scorsese’s success with NO DIRECTION HOME would help fuel Dylan’s twenty-first century resurgence while reinforcing Scorsese himself as the go-to chronicler of American music.


THE DEPARTED (2006)

In the late 2000’s, the city of Boston experienced a surge of popularity in terms of its presence within cinema.  A variety of films—from Ben Affleck’s crime thrillers GONE BABY GONE (2007) and THE TOWN (2010) to Dane Cook comedy vehicles like MY BEST FRIEND’S GIRL (2008)—didn’t just use Beantown as their own personal Hollywood backlots… they channeled the city’s particular essence and character into the films themselves.

The trend started in 2006, when director Martin Scorsese released his Boston-set, Irish-mafia crime thriller THE DEPARTED to massive success and critical appreciation.  Just like that, the city was red-hot—and as a film student at Emerson College during that time, it was incredibly exciting to be so close to the action.  Emerson’s importance to the city’s local film community even proved helpful to Scorsese himself, who used the college’s facilities to view THE DEPARTED’s dailies.

Produced by Brad Pitt’s production company Plan B and written by William Monahan, THE DEPARTED started life as a remake of the 2002 Hong Kong crime thriller INFERNAL AFFAIRS. Monahan’s take transplanted the story to his native Boston, giving THE DEPARTED a flair and attitude all its own. If you have to remake a foreign film, this is how you do it.

Monahan and Scorsese’s fractured, tangled narrative hopscotches all over the place while disregarding traditional film narrative conventions—indeed, the title card doesn’t even show up until eighteen minutes in.  The plot plays to a similar relationship dynamic that Scorsese previously used in GANGS OF NEW YORK (2002), that of a young Irish man who is taken under the wing of the powerful crime lord who killed his father.

THE DEPARTED begins on Graduation Day at the Police Academy, focusing on two young cadets with similar backgrounds, but who couldn’t have turned out more different from each other.  Colin Sullivan (Matt Damon) is a well-heeled, ambitious man and a rising star within the force.

Unbeknownst to his colleagues, however, he’s also a double agent providing inside information to Frank Costello (Jack Nicholson), one of the most prominent figures in Irish organized crime.  On the other side, a less-promising recruit named Billy Costigan (Leonardo DiCaprio) is enlisted to go undercover on a very special assignment: infiltrate Costello’s inner circle and help the State Troopers take him down from the inside.

What follows is an elaborate game of “Find The Rat”, in which both sides manipulate the actions of the other and task themselves with finding the mole within their respective organizations.  The crux of the plot revolves around efforts to stop Costello from selling valuable microprocessors to the Chinese, but the film’s heart lies in the cloak and dagger treachery between cops and robbers—but in this new post 9/11 world, neither side can afford to trust any of its own men.

THE DEPARTED continues Scorsese’s collaboration with his new leading man, Leonardo DiCaprio.  As Billy Costigan, DiCaprio takes an unexpected approach and injects a twitchy, strung-out sensibility into his performance aimed at assuring those around him that he is most definitely not a cop.

He’s a deeply troubled young man without much in the way of possessions or friends and family—the perfect guy to infiltrate Costello’s tight-knit unit.  Being of Boston stock himself, Matt Damon is a natural at conveying Colin Sullivan’s cocky, swaggering bravado.  The role is a rare villainous turn for Damon, and he uses his leading-man charisma to play the two-faced rat bastard brilliantly.

 Ultimately, however, THE DEPARTED belongs to Jack Nicholson and his show-stealing performance as Irish mob boss and secret FBI informant Frank Costello.  As Nicholson has gotten older, he’s become extremely selective in the roles he takes on, but the lure of working with Scorsese proved to be undeniable to the veteran actor.

 In fact, Nicholson’s performance here will arguably go down as his last great role when the time comes to assess his legacy.  The character of Frank Costello is based off real-life Boston crime boss James “Whitey” Bulger, who fled Boston in the 90’s to escape arrest and was only recently discovered living in an nondescript apartment in Santa Monica.

 Nicholson plays Costello like a loaded gun liable to go off at any moment, and the characters’ salacious affectations for casual racism, prostitutes, and flamboyant animal prints give him a carte-blanche license for an indulgent performance.

Scorsese’s brilliant supporting cast gives inspired, outsized performances that threaten to steal the show right out from under Nicholson and DiCaprio.  Any film has its own alternate cast history— legends of offers made and rejected, actors and fans alike left to wonder what could’ve been.

We like to think that accomplished directors like Scorsese always get their first choices in talent– but had Scorsese’s original vision come together, we would’ve have a version of THE DEPARTED featuring Robert De Niro as Captain Queenan, Ray Liotta as Dignam, Mel Gibson as Captain Ellerby, and Brad Pitt as Colin Sullivan.

As it actually worked out, we got the version with Martin Sheen, Mark Wahlberg, Alec Baldwin and Matt Damon (respectively) instead. Thankfully, the result is nothing short of fireworks.  Like Damon, Wahlberg is a born-and-raised son of Boston, and his Oscar-nominated portrayal of foul-mouthed staff sergeant Dignam comes off as extremely natural.

Sheen plays his superior, the paternal and soft-spoken Captain Queenan.  After previously appearing in THE AVIATOR (2004) for Scorsese, Alec Baldwin again plays what I suspect to just be another fictionalized variant of his own self—the explosive, coked-out Captain Ellerby.  Vera Farmiga plays Madolyn, a demure police psychologist who finds her affections torn between Costigan and Sullivan.

Ray Winstone, Anthony Anderson, and Kevin Corrigan fill out the remainder of the supporting cast of note—Winstone plays Costello’s right hand man, the gruff and stoic Mr. French.  Anderson’s casting as a fellow State Trooper and colleague of Sullivan’s is pleasantly surprising, and Kevin Corrigan (who previously appeared in Scorsese’s GOODFELLAS (1990) when he was just a kid) plays Billy Costigan’s cousin Sean- a smalltime Southie drug dealer.

As far as thrillers go, THE DEPARTED is quite possibly Scorsese’s most accessible film from a visual standpoint.  Collaborating once again with regular cinematographer Michael Ballhaus, Scorsese renders Boston’s gritty streets in a sleek, polished style that calls to mind the breathless energy of GOODFELLAS and CASINO (1995).  Shot in the 2.35:1 anamorphic aspect ratio, THE DEPARTED revels in its reckless disregard for conventional scene coverage.

Scorsese and Ballhaus utilize a delirious combination of Steadicam, crane, and dolly camerawork to give an operatic feel to the proceedings, while the intermixing of documentary archival footage of civil unrest in the opening credits creates a raw sociological immediacy.  From extended tracking shots to simple push-ins, Scorsese keeps the camera in constant motion.

He indulges in expressionistic flourishes, such as the near-abstract rendering of a footchase through the streets of Chinatown, where (literal) smoke and mirrors obfuscate DiCaprio’s tracking of Damon.

Composition-wise, THE DEPARTED is filled with Scorsese’s usual imagery (split-focus diopter and old-fashioned iris shots to name a few), in addition to a few playful flourishes, like the placement of X’s in the frame whenever there’s an onscreen death—a subtle trick Scorsese uses to homage their original use in Howard Hawks’ SCARFACE (1932).

Working once again with longtime editor Thelma Schoonmaker (who won an Oscar for her work here), Scorsese reflects the jittery, jumpy nature of DiCaprio’s protagonist by employing New Wave-style jump cuts and dropped frames that give the picture a hopped-up sense of reality.

These jump cuts become yet another point of homage, with Scorsese alluding to Stanley Kubrick’s infamous millennia-spanning “bone to spaceship” jump cut in 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY (1968) by depicting Damon’s character’s growth from boy to man in extreme close-up via a single hard cut.

Music plays an integral role in any Scorsese film, and THE DEPARTED counts as one of the most musically-distinguished films in the director’s oeuvre.  Reteaming with Howard Shore for their fourth feature together, the soundtrack is notable for its inspired tango sound, which alludes to the back-and-forth pursuit of the film’s events as a kind of elaborate dance.

It’s one of the most original score approaches in recent memory, going a long way towards establishing a tonally-appropriate levity in an otherwise darkly morbid plot.  Right off the bat, THE DEPARTED’s source cues inform us we are watching a Scorsese film, blending classic rock from the Rolling Stones (specifically, “Gimme Shelter”—the third time Scorsese has used it) and newer tracks (like the Dropkick Murphy’s anthemic “Shipping Up To Boston”) with the timelessness of Old World opera music.

Scorsese takes a particularly punk-rock approach to THE DEPARTED’s musical landscape, throwing everything together without any regard for harmoniousness or congruity; he even goes so far as frequently dropping the music out abruptly and entirely via a hard cut.  The effect adds a vibrant, comedic punch to the proceedings.

This technique has been used before by younger directors like Quentin Tarantino, and Scorsese’s use of it in THE DEPARTED shows us that he may be an elder statesman of cinema, but he’s not afraid to look to the work of his successors for creative inspiration.

Boston and New York City share a peculiar kind of rivalry, and it’s not just limited to baseball.  I’ve known several Bostonites who’d rather die before moving to New York.  As one of New York City’s most-treasured artists, Scorsese’s depiction of Beantown stands to tell us a lot about how a native Gothamite might view the city.

It turns out that, in the eye of Uncle Marty, Boston is just a smaller version of New York in which the passionate staccato of Italian culture is simply replaced with the lilting brogues of the Irish.  Scorsese has always been interested in chronicling the immigrant experience in America, albeit from his native Italian perspective, but THE DEPARTED’s modern context continues the director’s insights into the Irish experience initially explored in GANGS OF NEW YORK.

The city of Boston boasts one of the biggest population of Irish Roman Catholics in the country, thus Scorsese is able to naturally incorporate his fascination with his Catholic heritage and the iconography it engenders: cathedrals, priests, nuns, and funerals.  Keeping in line with his very best work, Scorsese’s set of protagonists in THE DEPARTED is comprised of hoods, thugs, and otherwise-fatally-flawed men.

Moral ambiguity has always been the name of the game for Scorsese, but the twist here is that now these people are in a position of civil authority—they’re cops, charged with protecting the peace, yet they’re still resorting to crime and manipulative tactics for the sake of their own self-betterment.

THE DEPARTED might be one of Scorsese’s most commercially-accessible works, but that doesn’t mean he skimps on gore and violence; indeed, he portrays the bloodletting in unpredictably chaotic, signature fashion, with the climax taking this approach to absurd, near-comedic extremes.  In a way, it both channels and parodies the climax to Scorsese’s other disturbingly-violent masterpiece, TAXI DRIVER (1976).

THE DEPARTED was released in the fall of 2006 to strong box office and healthy critical praise—to the point that it quickly overtook CAPE FEAR as Scorsese’s most commercially successful film to date.  Much like they had done for GANGS OF NEW YORK or THE AVIATOR in recent years prior, industry insiders buzzed in hushed whispers that this might finally be the year that Scorsese takes homes The Gold Statue.

Oscar night finally arrived, and Scorsese and company sat patiently as Schoonmaker won for editing, and Monahan won for the screenplay.  When it came time to announce Best Director, a beautiful thing happened:

The highest-profile filmmakers of the Film Brat generation—Francis Ford Coppola, George Lucas, and Steven Spielberg—strode on stage to present the award.  I was three thousand miles away, watching the telecast in a dumpy apartment in Boston, but the sheer electricity in the air of the Kodak Theatre auditorium was palpable even to me.

We all knew he’d finally done it; the reading of the actual envelope was at this point merely a formality.  Scorsese’s long-overdue acceptance speech was filled with his characteristic self-deprecating wit (“did you double check the envelope?”), but even he couldn’t help but be moved by the vocal approval of hundreds of people applauding in waves of overwhelming joy.

As night turned to day, and our collective euphoria began to wear off, detractors began to dilute the importance of the win, dismissing it as an unofficial Lifetime Achievement Award by an apologetic Academy for all those prior times he probably should have won.  However, this detracts from the ability of THE DEPARTED to stand on its own merits, of which there are many.

Scorsese may jokingly attribute the success of THE DEPARTED to it being “the first film he’s ever done with a plot”, but as the film’s tenth anniversary rapidly approaches, time has shown that THE DEPARTED isn’t just his best film of the 2000’s—it’s one of the best films in his entire filmography.


THE KEY TO RESERVA (2007)

Hot off the success of 2006’s THE DEPARTED and his subsequent, long-overdue Oscar win for Directing, Martin Scorsese could do anything he wanted.  What he actually did next, however, came as something of a surprise. It was an advertisement for Freixenet champagne, but simply calling it a commercial would do injustice to Scorsese’s vision and subsequent accomplishment.

Having built up a formidable reputation as a vocal preservationist of classic cinema, Scorsese used the opportunity to do something that had never before been attempted in the field of film preservation—preserving a work that had never been realized on-screen in the first place.  To accomplish this feat, he looked to a lost script, of which only three pages still existed.

 The script was called THE KEY TO RESERVA, and it was written by one of Scorsese’s key influences, the late Alfred Hitchcock.  In a bold conceit that would seamlessly combine narrative filmmaking with documentary, Scorsese aimed to recreate those three pages in an attempt to channel to the ghost of Hitchcock via his own handiwork.

Hitchcock’s pages are set in an opera house, where a dashing spy (played here by Simon Baker) attempts to steal secret plans hidden inside the cork of a bottle of Freixenet champagne before his presence is discovered.  Helping him in his mission is a classic Hitchcock blonde (a conceit Scorsese has incorporated into his own work), played by Kelli O’Hara.

 Scorsese successfully emulates Hitchcock’s filmmaking style, right down to Hitchcock’s particularly iconic use of subjective perspectives and his signature “falling” shot.  The late, great Harris Savides serves as cinematographer, helping Scorsese pull off his ambitious vision with classical crane and dolly-based camera movements and polished, old school Hollywood lighting setups.

Scorsese scores the scene to Bernard Herrmann’s iconic theme for NORTH BY NORTHWEST (1959), played by the onscreen orchestra, and longtime editing partner Thelma Schoonmaker ties everything together with a vintage flourish.  Finally, Scorsese caps off the Hitchcock homage in a playful way during the film’s final shot, which calls out to Hitchcock’s 1963 masterpiece THE BIRDS as countless flocks of ravens begin assembling outside of Scorsese’s meeting room.

The documentary side of THE KEY TO RESERVA also boasts Scorsese’s signature documentary conceits, right down to the director appearing onscreen and incorporating handheld photography to capture the unpredictability and immediacy of real life.  All told, the extended spot is quite striking, and anticipates the wave of “branded content” that pervades the advertising field today.


AMERICAN EXPRESS “MEMBERS PROJECT” COMMERCIAL (2007)

The same year he shot the long-form commercial THE KEY TO RESERVA, director Martin Scorsese also created another commercial for American Express, entitled “THE MEMBERS PROJECT” (2007).   Featuring celebrities like Alicia Keys, Sheryl Crow and Ellen Degeneres against a generic photo portrait cyc, the spot pokes fun at those self-serious celebrity charity/human rights campaigns.

 The spot has little to do with Scorsese’s own development as a filmmaker, but the director’s playful onscreen appearance as himself further points to the solidification of a particular image that he’s presented to the media as his age has advanced—that of the friendly, jovial “Uncle Marty”.


SHINE A LIGHT (2008)

Director Martin Scorsese has made something of a two-pronged career for himself—the prong that gets the most attention would undoubtedly be his work in narrative feature films. While the lion’s share of attention towards the auteur focuses acutely on that side of his output, Scorsese has built up a formidable documentary filmography, focusing almost entirely on rock and roll music and its key players.

After winning his long overdue Best Directing Oscar for 2006’s THE DEPARTED, Scorsese leapt right back into production on a concert film featuring The Rolling Stones—a band that’s as inextricably tied to Scorsese’s own body of work as they are to the history of rock music itself.

Shot over the course of two nights in New York City’s historic Beacon Theatre, SHINE A LIGHT (2008) plays like a relatively conventional concert film, albeit a blockbuster one with some giant names on the marquee.  Besides the Stones’ iconic roster consisting of Mick Jagger, Keith Richards, Ron Wood, and Charlie Watts, SHINE A LIGHT also features surprising appearances from Jack White, Christina Aguilera, and even former President Bill and (future President?) Hillary Clinton.

 This being a Scorsese documentary, the director also puts in a sustained appearance as well—mostly during the beginning of the film when he takes us behind the scenes of mounting a concert as large as this one.

For the most part, SHINE A LIGHT is your run-of-the-mill concert film, covered by multiple cameras while the talent performs onstage.  But this being a Scorsese picture, the people behind those cameras read like a veritable who’s who of world-class cinematographers: Robert Richardson, Robert Elswit, Andrew Lesnie, John Toll, Ellen Kuras, and Emmanuel Lubezki.

The fact that they’d all collaborate together in capturing a live event under Scorsese’s direction speaks to the immense stature that the director enjoys in the film world.  SHINE A LIGHT was shot using a variety of formats, including 35mm film and HD video, making this the first time that Scorsese had worked with digital footage.

 The choice to shoot HD may not have been the best choice in shooting the Stones, as the increased detail makes them positively ancient.  Scorsese’s regular documentary editor David Tedeschi helps cull the best angles from what was no doubt a massive amount of coverage, and that’s before one counts the behind-the-scenes documentary footage shot prior to the concert or the archival interview footage featuring the Stones in their prime.

In what could be read as one of his signature directorial flourishes, Scorsese ends the film with an extended Steadicam tracking shot that maneuvers the backstage corridors en route to the chaotic New York City streets.  Reminiscent of similar shots in 1980’s RAGING BULL and 1990’s GOODFELLAS, this shot is notable for the opportunity it provides for Scorsese to appear as a subject himself within one of his own signature conceits.

SHINE A LIGHT premiered as the opening film for the 2008 Berlin Film Festival, and went on to a healthy run at the box office (arguably due to its presentation in the IMAX format). While it doesn’t tell us anything new about the Rolling Stones and their music, Scorsese’s reverent approach captures the sheer energy of their live performance.  In the process, he preserves the band’s cultural legacy while preserving his own as our country’s greatest rock documentarian.


SHUTTER ISLAND (2010)

The east coast has a storied history in regards to thesubject of asylums and mental hospitals. The landscape is dotted with imposing Gothic structures like Eastern State Penitentiary– built to house and rehabilitate the mentally ill and criminally insane.

 Their foreboding architecture and lurid accounts of torturous experimentation tend to grip our horrified imaginations—they’re haunted houses on a massive scale, and as such they tend to make excellent settings for scary stories.  One such story is Dennis LeHane’s novel “Shutter Island”, a haunting yarn about a federal marshal traveling to Ashecliffe, a mental hospital on the titular island, to investigate the mysterious disappearance of a female patient.

Boston-bred LeHane’s novel is, like his previous works “Mystic River” and “Gone, Baby, Gone”, is naturally suited towards cinematic adaptation.  In 2010, its potential as a provoking horror film was realized in SHUTTER ISLAND, director Martin Scorsese’s feature follow-up to his Best Picture-winning film THE DEPARTED (2010).

Writer Laeta Kalogridis adapts LeHane’s prose to the screen, keeping the book’s setting of an isolated island somewhere in Boston Harbor and the 1950’s timeline intact.  Scorsese and company combine multiple locales around the greater Boston area to form the eponymous island on which federal marshal Teddy Daniels (Leonardo DiCaprio) arrives to investigate the disappearance of a patient named Rachel Solando.

Accompanied by his new partner Chuck Aule (Mark Ruffalo), Daniels commences his investigation by interviewing various patients, employees, and the facility’s head, Dr. Cawley (Ben Kingsley).  However, strange behavior and conflicting testimony leads Daniels to believe that something is amiss about the entire situation.

Nobody is quite who they say they are, but then again, neither is Daniels, as it is revealed when we find out that he’s using this investigation as an opportunity to locate and kill an inmate named Laeddis, an arsonist who he believes is responsible for his wife’s death.  The story builds to a lurid twist of a climax that dares to venture into the innermost chambers of the psychotic mind.

 While the twist itself may be predictable, it helps to make repeat viewings of SHUTTER ISLAND a completely different experience, as every line, glance, or gesture can be interpreted as entirely different.  Thanks in no small part to Scorsese’s direction and attention to generating dramatically rich performances, SHUTTER ISLANDcomes off as more than the sum of its parts—a hauntingly dense horror film that operates on multiple levels.

With his fourth collaboration with Scorsese, Leonardo DiCaprio officially gives Robert De Niro a run for his money as the director’s leading-man muse.  DiCaprio once again relishes the chance to subvert his boyish good looks with a haunted, twitchy performance as federal marshal Teddy Daniels. For a horror film, the role demands quite the heavyweight performance, and DiCaprio delivers in kind with a nuanced pathos.

Mark Ruffalo plays the cool and collected Chuck Aule, a fellow marshal and Teddy’s enigmatic new partner.  Veteran performer Ben Kingsley plays the island’s head psychiatrist, Dr. Cawley as a sophisticated dandy and caring father figure to the patients at Ashecliffe.

By contrast, Max Von Sydow plays his colleague Dr. Naehring, a German psychiatrist from the Freudian old school—he views everything in terms of Jungian archetypes and styles himself as a Van Helsing who has committed himself to slaying the monsters within man’s mind.

Michelle Williams plays Dolores, Teddy’s dead wife that appears to him in ghostly visions as a calming, feminine presence amongst the brutish insanity only to reveal herself as an altogether different monster.  Scorsese’s prestige as a director also affords him the opportunity to cast some intriguing names in what amount to extended cameos.

The character of Rachel Solando is played by two different actresses- Rachel 1 is embodied in Emily Mortimer, who channels a quiet desperation into her otherwise demure demeanor, and Patricia Clarkson, who is found hiding out in a cliff-side cave and presented as “the real Rachel Solando”, but who may just be a figment of Teddy’s overactive imagination.  Jackie Earle Haley plays the deformed, ratty inmate George Noyce, and Elias Koteas appears in a nightmarish dream sequence as the heavily-scarred arsonist Laeddis.

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Shot by Scorsese’s regular cinematographer Robert Richardson, SHUTTER ISLAND’s anamorphic presentation channels the late Stanley Kubrick in its visual precision and foreboding atmosphere.  Ominous storm clouds hang over every scene, casting the image in cold, desaturated blue tones that contrast with the warm, golden glow of several dream sequences.

Scorsese and Richardson unify these distinct looks with a stylized lighting scheme that blows out highlights to the nth degree (similar to 1999’s BRINGING OUT THE DEAD) and incorporating strategic use of artful camerawork that keeps us guessing just as much as the characters.

Longtime collaborator Dante Ferretti’s realistic approach to Ashecliffe and its environs is augmented by somewhat-noticeable CGI and longtime editor Thelma Schoonmaker’s skillful editing, both of which work together to seamlessly combine the various Massachusetts shooting locales used to double for the fictional Shutter Island.

Scorsese wisely doesn’t resort to cheap jump scares to spook his audience—rather, he uses the natural expressionism inherent in the film medium as a classical horror filmmaker might have done fifty years prior. For instance, during a key dream sequence, Scorsese has his actors perform their actions in reverse, which, when the film is run backwards in the edit, gives off a supremely unnerving vibe that the motion isn’t quite right.

It’s a simple, yet chillingly effective technique, and Scorsese’s use of it in SHUTTER ISLAND echoes its earlier use in his close friend Francis Ford Coppola’s nouveau gothic film, BRAM STOKER’S DRACULA (1992).

In lieu of a traditional composer, Scorsese enlists his longtime music supervisor Robbie Robertson to assemble SHUTTER ISLAND’s soundtrack from a mix of dark classic cues from modern artists like Max Richter, Brian Eno, Ingram Marshall and Gustav Mahler.  Richter’s beautiful, elegiac track “The Nature of Daylight” is a particular standout, appearing during a soulful, haunting nightmare Teddy experiences.

The scene itself is already stacked with memorable imagery—black ash falling like snow, blood pouring through the cracks in fingers from an unseen wound, a body collapsing into a pile of embers and ash, etc.  By overlaying “The Nature of Daylight” over the soundtrack, Scorsese inadvertently creates one of the most poetic, expressionistic, and beautiful sequences in his entire film career.  Much like he did in THE DEPARTED, Scorsese finds key junctures to abruptly end his music cues with a hard cut, like someone being forcefully awoken from a dream.

The Boston Harbor setting of SHUTTER ISLAND allows Scorsese to return to that particular salt-of-the-earth idiosyncratic brand of personality that he previously explored in THE DEPARTED, albeit with flashbacks and dream sequences that take the action back to Scorsese’s home city of New York.

While a gothic horror film about dead wives and insanity is a far cry from the rough and tumble Italian street films Scorsese is best known for, his singular artistic fascinations permeate every nook and cranny of SHUTTER ISLAND.  For instance, the confused, merciless slaughter of Nazis lined up in a row speaks to Scorsese’s penchant for rendering violence as sudden, unpredictable, and horrifyingly chaotic.

A tattoo of the crucified Jesus Christ emblazoned across the back of an inmate is indicative of Scorsese’s long association with Roman Catholic imagery and dogma.  His usage of gothic iconography throughout the film—candelabras, an ominous storm, spooky shadows and dark, cavernous spaces—evokes the imagery of classical horror films from cinema’s golden age heyday while further pointing to Scorsese’s obsession with film history and its disparate genres.

Tod Browning’s DRACULA (1931) comes immediately to mind, no doubt owing to Max Von Sydow’s round glasses and mad scientist-esque demeanor evoking the character of Van Helsing, while still other elements of SHUTTER ISLAND’s direction point to the best of Alfred Hitchcock’s work.

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After its initial premiere at the Berlinale film festival, SHUTTER ISLAND went on to become Scorsese’s highest-grossing film to date.  Despite a mostly positive critical reception, the film is seen by the larger film community as something of an albatross in Scorsese’s late-era career—a misstep or misguided choice, as if doing a horror film was beneath a director as prestigious and respected as he was.

However, Scorsese’s first foray into horror proves just as successful as his last genre venture- 1992’s CAPE FEAR.  Both films take major cues from the work of Hitchcock rather than attempt to emulate the trends and fads of modern chillers, and in the process achieve a transcendent timelessness.  With the great majority of his career behind him, the aging Scorsese proves he still has a few unexpected surprises in store.

This is not to say that SHUTTER ISLAND doesn’t have its share of flaws, but it is, by and large, an extremely underrated film that easily outclasses its genre contemporaries to become something of a modern classic.


BLEU DE CHANEL “THE FILM” COMMERCIAL (2010)

In 2010, director Martin Scorsese collaborated with Chanel on a sixty second commercial for the brand’s new Bleu De Chanel cologne line.  Titled “THE FILM”, the piece stars French model Gaspard Ulliel as a famous film director besieged by the media during a press conference for his new film, only to experience a reverie into his early days as a struggling young artist when his former muse presents herself to ask him a question.

Kinetic and fast-paced in signature Scorsese fashion, he shoots the press conference scenes in a slick, high-fashion style that’s bathed in a cobalt blue hue (to match the branding of the product, naturally).  The flashback scenes are rendered in a mix of different vintage film stocks, suggesting his rise from nothing to the top of his field.

The piece is scored “She Said Yeah”, performed by Scorsese’s perennial favorite band The Rolling Stones.  The in-story film that our protagonist is promoting is evidently set in New York City, but that’s not the only affectation of Scorsese’s permeating through the piece.  His love for midcentury Italian cinema and history is also reflected here, with the story playing a little bit like a modern-day update to Federico Fellini’s 8 ½.

Scorsese may seem like an odd choice to spearhead a commercial shoot for an international fashion juggernaut like Chanel, what with a feature filmography consisting of tough, brutish Italian Americans and explosively unrefined violence.

However, Scorsese’s choice in commercial projects has always leaned towards a sense of international glamor, from 2007’s THE KEY TO RESERVA ad for French champagne all the way to his first ad in 1968 for Armani. “THE FILM” continues this tradition with a cinematic flair that plays into Scorsese’s late-career stature as a master filmmaker operating on the world stage.


A LETTER TO ELIA (2010)

Of all the filmmakers that director Martin Scorsese could cite as a key formative influence on his own art—filmmakers like Roberto Rossellini or Vittorio De Sica—he keeps coming back to one in particular: Elia Kazan.  A fellow New Yorker, Kazan was a kindred spirit to Scorsese, helping the young director understand his own place in the world through powerful, staggering films that explored the hardened men and women of the American immigrant working class.

After a series of documentaries paying tribute to the midcentury American and Italian films that inspired him to pursue filmmaking as his vocation, Scorsese collaborated with co-director Kent Jones on a documentary that zeroed in on Elia Kazan’s work and legacy in particular.

 Much like A PERSONAL JOURNEY THROUGH AMERICAN MOVIES (1995) and MY VOYAGE TO ITALY (2001) before it, 2010’s A LETTER TO ELIA blends a series of film clips and stills to illustrate how profoundly Kazan affected Scorsese’s worldview and established a standard to which he still holds himself to today.

Narrated by Scorsese himself (an endearing touch that recurs throughout his documentaries), the film goes into detail on three works in particular—ON THE WATERFRONT (1954), EAST OF EDEN (1955), and AMERICA AMERICA (1963)—and explains why they best embody Kazan’s unique worldview and artistic fascinations.

 Despite being about another filmmaker, A LETTER TO ELIA can’t help but bear Scorsese’s mark when it explores how Kazan’s Greek heritage informed and shaped him as not just an artist, but as a man.  After all, the same thing could be said about Scorsese himself and his cinematic chronicles of the Italian immigrant experience in New York City.

2010 was a relatively prolific year for Scorsese, but not in the way that one might immediately suspect. The year saw him release a feature film, a television pilot, a commercial, and two documentaries. Ironically, this increased output happens to coincide with a general slowdown in the pace of his feature film delivery.

 Yes, SHUTTER ISLAND (2010) was quickly followed the next year by HUGO, but there’s a two year gap between HUGO and WOLF OF WALL STREET (2013) and a void of four years between THE DEPARTED (2006) and SHUTTER ISLAND.  The slowdown is probably not attributable to Scorsese’s old age, like some would naturally think—we’re seeing instead the trickle-down effects of a much larger movement in the film industry.

This particular climate was born from the onset of the Great Recession in 2008, a recession that hit the film industry hard and made it significantly harder for even prestigious directors like Scorsese to find financing for their projects.

 This climate continues to this day, and while other filmmakers have simply withered on the vine, Scorsese’s inherent nimbleness and resourcefulness have allowed him to recalibrate his approach and pave the new for a new generation of filmmakers, all while safeguarding the principles and legacy of the generation that preceded him.


BOARDWALK EMPIRE: “PILOT” (2010)

As the multiplexes have become more crowded with the latest blockbuster superhero epics at the expense of richly-drawn, adult-oriented character pieces, television has emerged as an unlikely candidate to fill the void.  Channels like HBO and AMC have paved the way for premium episodic content that can match cinema from nearly every angle– save for the building-sized screens.

HBO in particular has been a trailblazer on this front, regularly producing cinematic, compelling shows like THE SOPRANOSTHE WIRE, and TRUE DETECTIVE.  In 2010, HBO added another feather to their cap with creator Terence Winter’s BOARDWALK EMPIRE, a series about crime and corruption in Prohibition-era Atlantic City and inspired by the book of the same name by author Nelson Johnson.

 Such material demands a strong, visionary director, which Winter found in Martin Scorsese.  Scorsese’s successful direction of BOARDWALK EMPIRE’s pilot episode launched the series in high style, setting the stage for a five season-run that would become one of HBO’s most prized properties.

The pilot episode begins on the night that the alcohol ban takes effect and Prohibition becomes the law of the land.  In Atlantic City, the occasion is marked with a mock New Orleans funeral and a lavish, booze-soaked gala.  The smirking revelry, however, belies the fact that alcohol’s illegality is a huge problem for a city whose main source of income stems from sin and vice.

Where most see a great loss, others, like city treasurer Enoch “Nucky” Thompson (Steve Buscemi), see an opportunity for immense profit.  Over the course of the episode, the story follows the fledgling underground booze trade while setting up its key players.  Like any good pilot, the episode establishes the tone and the world quite well, and ends with a dramatic flourish that compels us to keep watching more.

BOARDWALK EMPIRE benefits from an immensely talented cast; a development that is no doubt directly attributable to Scorsese’s involvement and inherent attractiveness to serious actors. In a rare starring turn, Steve Buscemi headlines BOARDWALK EMPIRE as Nucky Thompson, a brutish dandy and the corrupted treasurer of Atlantic City.

Michael Pitt plays his right hand man, Jimmy Darmody- an ambitious former Princeton student and veteran of the Great War.  Kelly MacDonald plays Margaret Schroeder, a demure, pregnant housewife who is active in both the temperance and woman’s suffrage movements.  Michael Shannon plays Nelson Van Alden, a newly-minted lawman tasked with cracking down on offenders in the alcohol beat.

 Shea Whigham plays Eli Thompson, a crooked lawman under Nucky’s employ.  Finally, Paz de la Huerta plays Lucy Danziger, a tempestuous nymphet who is currently shacking up with Nucky.  Due to the conventions of the pilot episode tradition, no one actor really gets a chance to shine in the spotlight, but each one is set up with a strong set of motivations, ambitions, and flaws that will no doubt be explored to their fullest dramatic potential as the series unfolds.

BOARDWALK EMPIRE is similar in spirit to Scorsese’s other period crime epic, 2002’s GANGS OF NEW YORK, in that both projects recreate the rough-and-tumble grit of a bygone era with expansive sets and a generous costume budget.  Cinematographer Stuart Dryburgh bathes the image in a wash of earth tones, ambers, and sepias, while Scorsese employs his signature mix of camera techniques— like Steadicam shots, cranes, still frames, whip-pans, push-ins and iris shots—to add immediacy and energy.

For reasons most likely owing to the shorter television format, Scorsese eschews some of his regular collaborators in favor of people like editor Sidney Wolinsky and production designer Bob Shaw, who help him in establishing a look, tone, and pacing for others to follow in future episodes.

Directing the pilot episode of a given series is often an enticing prospect for established filmmakers because it allows them to imprint their stamp on a project that will continue long after their initial involvement (and the regular Executive Producer payments that go with it aren’t bad either).

As such, BOARDWALK EMPIRE fits in quite naturally with Scorsese’s feature filmography—a body of work well known for featuring hoods and gangsters as protagonists (usually of the Italian variety), as well as depictions of chaotic, violent street life and explorations of the American immigrant experience.  Nucky sums up Scorsese’s sentiments quite tidily when he casually remarks, “we’re all immigrants, are we not?”.

Scorsese’s love of film history is also acknowledged in a scene where Pitt’s character’s family takes in a viewing of a silent Fatty Arbuckle film.  Music, a hugely important part of any Scorsese project, likewise plays an integral role in fleshing out BOARDWALK EMPIRE’s bygone era.

Scorsese starts on an anachronistic, yet inspired note, with Brian Jonestown Massacre’s modern rock track “Straight Up and Down” accompanying the opening credits.  As the story unfolds, he peppers the soundtrack with vintage recordings from the period, with a particular emphasis on the era’s version of popular rock and roll music—ragtime, blues, and opera.

Not having been involved in the narrative television medium since his contribution to 1986’s AMAZING STORIES, Scorsese’s first full-on TV pilot was a smash hit, whose big ratings and strong critical praise helped to propel the show onwards for five more seasons.

In addition to being a boon for the series’ longevity, Scorsese’s involvement in BOARDWALK EMPIRE had a much bigger effect than he probably could have ever anticipated.  An Oscar-winning director of Scorsese’s stature taking on an episode of television was a huge deal—his participation helped to legitimize the current phenomenon of major directors moving into the televised entertainment space.

This development created a safe space for an endangered species—directors of intelligent, challenging, and thought-provoking fare—and ensured their survival in a landscape dominated by corporate homogeny, bloated budgets, and disposable blockbusters.


PUBLIC SPEAKING (2010)

As an artist whose work is inextricably tied to the city in which he lives, director Martin Scorsese can be mentioned in the same breath with notable Gotham luminaries from a variety of disciplines—Andy Warhol, Truman Capote, John Lennon, and even Jay Z. Something about the culture and makeup of New York City fuels groundbreaking creativity, and as long as he’s been around, Scorsese has been capturing that quintessential Big Apple spirit in both his narrative and documentary works.

 In 2010, Scorsese collaborated with HBO and American Express to make a documentary on Fran Lebowitz, a speaker and writer best known for her sardonic acid wit and hilariously blunt honesty.  Entitled PUBLIC SPEAKING, Scorsese uses the subject of Lebowitz to explore the broader scope of New York’s long history with unconventional creativity.

Shot by cinematographer Ellen Kuras and edited by Damian Rodriguez and David Tedeschi, PUBLIC SPEAKING is presented in the conventional documentary format, mixing talking head interviews filmed in a dark, quiet booth in some tucked away corner of Manhattan with vintage footage of  Lebowitz at old book readings and press interviews.

 Scorsese largely abstains from his usual habit of placing himself inside the documentary, save for one brief appearance, but he does incorporate some footage from his own quintessential New York film, TAXI DRIVER (1976), as well as Bernard Herrmann’s iconic score from the same at different points in the timeline.

He also stitches in a recurring motif of French pop singer Serge Gainsbourg performing “New York USA” throughout as a kind of punctuation mark.  This has the effect of placing Lebowitz’s personal accounts and anecdotes against the bigger landscape of New York’s varied art scene. To put it another way, it’s a portrait of NYC from the perspectives of those who shape it in the collective hive mind of culture.

PUBLIC SPEAKING is a natural fit within Scorsese’s filmography, serving as yet another love letter to the city that he calls home.  Like his best work, it is fundamentally about American ideals, as told from a minority perspective.  At one point in the film, Lebowitz notes that when she was a child, her habit of being outspoken and honest “used to be called talking back… now it’s called public speaking”.

When taken in context of Scorsese’s broader explorations of success in America, the message becomes quite clear—it’s in our national character to take what makes us unique and turn it into something of value.

 While PUBLIC SPEAKING may not be Scorsese’s most high-profile documentary, its message of recognizing our calling through our own natural-born talents (which may seem like flaws to some) positions itself as an intimately optimistic look into one of the cornerstone conceits of Scorsese’s own artistry.


GEORGE HARRISON: LIVING IN THE MATERIAL WORLD (2011)

Director Martin Scorsese’s long and storied film career has followed two distinct paths—narrative features and documentaries about culture, music, and identity.  Both paths have been lauded with equal heaps of critical praise, with his documentaries on music being a particular beneficiary of said plaudits.

Scorsese’s artistic aesthetic is tied to music—early works like WHO’S THAT KNOCKING AT MY DOOR (1967) and MEAN STREETS (1973) helped to popularize the idea of the “jukebox soundtrack”, or the usage of popular music instead of an original score. The sound of a Scorsese film is congruent with the sound of some of the greatest acts in rock and roll history, like The Band, The Rolling Stones, and Bob Dylan to name a few.

It was only a matter of time until he tackled the subject of arguably the most iconic rock band of all time, The Beatles.

The Beatles are one of the most-listened to, most written-about, and most-dissected acts in the history of music, so what more could Scorsese possibly have to add to the conversation?  To answer this question, he decided to focus the grand narrative of The Beatles through the eyes of its most enigmatic member, George Harrison.

 It was thus in 2011 that Scorsese teamed up with Harrison’s widow Olivia to release GEORGE HARRISON: LIVING IN THE MATERIAL WORLD, a long documentary on Harrison’s involvement with the Beatles and subsequent struggles with fame, as well as his lifelong search for spiritual enlightenment through Eastern philosophies and Transcendental Meditation.

 Scorsese presents the documentary in the conventional format, featuring talking head interviews with Paul McCartney, Ringo Starr, Ravi Shankar, Yoko Ono, Phil Spector, Eric Clapton, and Tom Petty (among many others).  Harrison himself even makes a filmed appearance in an interview taped before his death in 2001.

Shot by Scorsese’s regular cinematographer Robert Richardson (as well as Martin Kenzie), and edited by his regular documentary cutter David Tedeschi, GEORGE HARRISON breaks up the informative interview footage with several vintage film clips, archival footage, and live concert recordings.  Starting in midcentury London and extending all the way to present day, the film charts Harrison’s personal growth and experience with fame and fortune.

Besides being just a signature Scorsese “rockumentary”, GEORGE HARRISON tells its story in such a way that finds the subject’s artistic fascinations dovetailing with Scorsese’s own. For instance, he takes the time to paint a larger picture of the culture in which Harrison was brought up, a culture that placed an importance on family and ritual even while the chaotic social unrest that marked the mid twentieth century raged in the streets around them.

The director’s love of film history is present in the form of clips from classic films like Michelangelo Antonioni’s BLOW-UP (1966), employed to demonstrate the counterculture that The Beatles themselves helped to shape.

 Most importantly, GEORGE HARRISON shares a kinship with narrative works like THE LAST PASSION OF CHRIST (1988) and KUNDUN (1997), in that Scorsese obliquely uses his own identity struggles with his Roman Catholic heritage to understand alternative religious viewpoints—in this case, the influence of Hinduism and other schools of Eastern thought that took hold of Harrison later in life.

As a documentary, GEORGE HARRISON: LIVING IN THE MATERIAL WORLD paints a thorough, detailed portrait of a man who lived an extraordinary life and left a profound mark on international culture.  Harrison’s journey is characterized as a search, or an ongoing dialogue, rather than a definitive statement on who he was and what kind of legacy he leaves behind.

This is very personal territory for Scorsese, whose lifelong soul-searching with his own faith has led to some of the cinema’s most affecting and thoughtful works on religious belief and conviction.  Judging by the Emmy that Scorsese collected for his direction here, this shared journey between director and subject results in one of the finest and most unexpected rock documentaries ever made, shedding new light on a figure that’s already been in the blinding glare of the spotlight for over half a century.


HUGO (2011)

Since the beginning of filmmaking, the city of Paris has played an integral role in its development. It was, after all, where cinema was born—the Lumiere Brothers held the first public exhibition of a film in the basement of what is now the Hotel Scribe, located along a major boulevard in the Ninth Arrondissement.

 Indeed, the ideals of Parisian culture are instilled into the DNA of celluloid itself, and as long as the art form is around, the City of Lights will continue to be its gleaming capital.  Naturally, this makes Paris a natural fit as a setting for a film that concerns itself with bringing back a sense of wonder and awe that has long since taken a back seat to blockbuster box office receipts and gimmicky fad “innovations” like 3D or High Frame Rate.

This film is 2011’s HUGO, a love letter to the cinema from an unexpected, yet highly qualified, admirer—director Martin Scorsese.  He’s done more for today’s cultural appreciation of film history than perhaps any other living filmmaker, which makes him the obvious candidate to tell a story about rediscovering the magic of film.

 Best known for his gritty, hard-hitting and hard-R rated urban crime films, Scorsese’s artistic aesthetic doesn’t seem particularly suited to a project marketed as an adventure for children, but ever since Scorsese’s young daughter Francesa gave him a copy of the source novel and expressed a desire for him to make it, not even he could deny his inspired appropriateness for the material.

 And so it was that Scorsese was hired by producers Graham King, Johnny Depp, and Tim Headington to direct HUGO from a script by his scribe on 2004’s THE AVIATOR, John Logan.  As perhaps Scorsese’s most radically different work, HUGO holds an interesting place in his filmography as a critically-lauded, yet financially, unsuccessful film– but in the context of his late-era career, it becomes an intimate glimpse into the director as a young boy and the blooming of his own lifelong love affair with cinema.

HUGO unfolds in 1930’s-era Paris, where a young boy named Hugo (Asa Butterfield) lives in an apartment carved out of the interior workings of the clocktower topping the Gare Montparnasse train station.  He lives there alone, having lost both his father and uncle to untimely deaths, and he steals food and other items to scrape out a life for himself.

 One day, he picks the wrong man to steal from—the owner of a toy shop within the station, who seizes Hugo and doles out punishment by taking the boy’s prized notebook, which he carries everywhere and contains his father’s drawings and schematics for a broken writing robot (known as an “automaton”) that he’s been trying to fix.

In a bid to get his notebook back, Hugo befriends the man’s goddaughter, a plucky young sprite named Isabelle (Chloe Moretz).  To his surprise, he discovers that Isabelle is unknowingly carrying the last missing piece to the puzzle of the automaton—a heart-shaped key she’s currently wearing as a necklace.

They use the key to bring the automaton back to life, and watch rapt as it begins to scrawl out a mysterious picture of a bullet slamming into an anthropomorphized moon’s agitated visage—an image that’s then signed with the name George Melies.

Isabelle recognizes the name as belonging to her godfather, and so they start investigating his past only to discover that he was once a great magician and filmmaker who made hundreds of films, only to fall into ruin when the Great War broke up and devastated Europe.  Armed with this knowledge, Hugo and Isabelle set about restoring Melies’ faith in cinema by trying to arrange a private screening of his last remaining work, A TRIP TO THE MOON (1902).

Anchoring a Scorsese film is a tall order for anyone still dealing with the ravages of puberty, but child stars Asa Butterfield and Chloe Moretz more than capably deliver.  As the precocious gearhead Hugo, Butterfield puts an interesting, unexpected spin on the classic “orphan pickpocket” archetype, while Moretz’s friendly and compassionate Isabelle provides a nice counterpoint to Hugo’s hardscrabble existence.

 The kids are surrounded by a group of extremely talented adults, many of whom have performed for Scorsese before.  Ben Kingsley, who previously appeared as the head psychiatrist in 2010’s SHUTTER ISLAND, plays the legendary filmmaker/magician George Melies as a cranky, forlorn old man who has lost the creative spark.

While Melies is a real-life figure, Kingsley reportedly chose to model his performance after Scorsese’s own personality instead.  Emily Mortimer, who also showed up in SHUTTER ISLAND, plays a meek flower seller in the station named Lisette, and THE DEPARTED’s (2006) Ray Winstone plays Hugo’s Uncle Claude, a drunkard who’s vice propels him to his untimely demise.

Jude Law, who had a bit role in THE AVIATOR as actor Errol Flynn, has another bit part in HUGOas Hugo’s father, a mild-mannered clockmaker with a voracious imagination.  New to the Scorsese fold are Christopher Lee and Sacha Baron Cohen as Monsieur Labisse and the Station Inspector, respectively.

Labisse is a kindly bookshop owner who lends books to Isabelle, while the Station Inspector is a bumbling, doggedly rigid lawman hobbled by his bum leg.  Finally, Scorsese incorporates a couple playful cameos in the form of his BOARDWALK EMPIRE (2010) star Michael Pitt as a disgruntled projectionist for the Lumiere Brothers, and Scorsese himself as a photographer in a flashback sequence with Melies as a younger, successful man.

Scorsese once again collaborates with regular cinematographer Robert Richardson, who won the Oscar for his efforts with HUGO.  The film’s visual style is extremely important in the context of Scorsese’s career in that it marks a bold new foray into both digital acquisition and 3D.

These two developments are directly related, as shooting digital was necessary to capture the footage in the new three-dimensional format championed by James Cameron and his blockbuster phenomenon, AVATAR (2009).  The film is presented in the standard Academy aspect ratio (the first time Scorsese has done so since 1999’s GOODFELLAS), which leaves plenty of frame for the director to fill his practical green-screen compositions with the computer-generated vistas of a Paris long past.

Indeed, the film comes across as very digital and artificial, almost like a storybook.  In the hands of a lesser filmmaker, this approach would be off putting and unconvincing, but Scorsese finds a charming balance that encourages us to entertain the fanciful and allows us to immerse ourselves in the world.

This digital set allows Scorsese to explore uncharted territory with camera movement, taking his penchant for extended tracking shots and giving him the means to design shots only possible in the virtual space.  Two such shots bookend the film, starting out with the Parisian cityscape on a wide macro scale before gliding onwards with omniscient precision to a close up detail far in the distance (like Hugo’s eye peering through a hole in the clock face, for instance).

Scorsese already possesses a considerable reputation for virtuoso camerawork, but the technology afforded him during the production of HUGO allows him to re-conceptualize his entire approach to coverage from new, never-before-seen angles.  In the process, he exhibits an unbridled energy that even filmmakers half his age struggle with attaining.

Returning production designer Dante Ferretti, who also won an Oscar for his work on the film, fills the industrial, labyrinthine Gare Montparnasse set with a fine layer of smoky haze and lots of churning gears, all rendered in bold color tones that confine themselves to a complementary blue and orange dynamic (similar to the bipack process that Scorsese incorporated in THE AVIATOR, except more naturalistic).

Scorsese’s editing partner Thelma Schoonmaker blends all the film’s disparate practical and CG elements seamlessly, topping things off with a poignant tribute to celluloid itself in a swelling montage of clips from Melies’ actual films and other cornerstone works of silent film history like SAFETY LAST(1923) and 1903’s THE GREAT TRAIN ROBBERY (the last shot of which serves as the source for an homage Scorsese placed at the end of GOODFELLAS).

Howard Shore once again reteams with Scorsese to create HUGO’s soundtrack, which swells and flows through the entirety of the film like a coursing river, albeit one with a distinctly Parisian flair thanks to the recurring use of an accordion.

While the 1930’s setting doesn’t allow much opportunity for Scorsese to throw in a Rolling Stones track as per his signature, he employs a few needledrops in the form of opera and the modern classical piece “Danse Macabre” by Camille Saint-Saens, which is generally regarded as the earliest song ever commissioned for a film’s soundtrack.

HUGO contains many of the thematic hallmarks of Scorsese’s work, like hardscrabble, disadvantaged protagonists who resort to crime as a means to live, detailed depictions of street life (the train station in particular serves as a contained social ecosystem), and the Roman Catholic imagery of popes and monks scattered throughout the landscape in the form of cold, imposing statues.

Most of all, HUGO speaks to Scorsese’s lifelong affection for the cinema, a love that drives every frame and camera flourish with an endless energy.  The film dedicates large portions of the story to cinema’s profoundly emotional affect on the characters.  The fact that the film is set in the city of cinema’s birth makes this aspect of Scorsese’s approach all the more poignant.

The idea of film preservation, another avenue of the art form that Scorsese had dedicated his career to, makes a strong case for higher visibility in HUGO when Scorsese shows us the tragic development of Melies’ beloved films boiled down and destroyed because the raw chemicals from the celluloid were deemed more valuable than the images they contained.

In Scorsese’s eye, this is a great crime toward humanity akin to the burning of the Great Library of Alexandria—countless works of art and knowledge become lost forever if we don’t take the necessary steps to safeguard and preserve them.

Scorsese’s love letter to cinema was well received by critics, who couldn’t help but be infected by the director’s unconditional affection for the art form.  While this reception unfortunately didn’t translate to strong box office, it did result in several Oscar wins for its cinematography, art direction, sound design, sound mix, and visual effects.

In his first large-scale experience with digital cinematography and the 3D format, Scorsese proves himself more than capable of adapting his craft to new technologies, lending firm evidence to the notion that a film’s strength is attributable to its author and not the particulars of its production.

Some will find great irony in the fact that the movie wasn’t shot on the celluloid film it places so much celebratory emphasis on, but to dwell on that aspect is to miss the point of Scorsese’s message entirely.  HUGO is not a celebration of film… it’s a celebration of cinema, and cinema will endure long after the last rolls of celluloid are exposed to the light.


COMMERCIAL WORKS (2011-2013)

In the years between the production of HUGO (2011) and (as of this writing) his latest feature THE WOLF OF WALL STREET, director Martin Scorsese picked up some quick work back in the commercial realm.  He appears himself in all but one of them, and such, continues to maintain a presence in pop culture as a brand unto himself—that of kindly, kooky old Uncle Marty.

AT&T COMMERCIAL (2011)

What appears to be a domestic scene of a young boy calling his out-of-town father to wish him goodnight is revealed to be a film set commanded by none other than Scorsese. Playing an exaggerated version of himself like he’s done in his previous American Express commercials, he breaks the focus of the scene to deliver direction to his subjects in his characteristic rapid-fire delivery.

His direction to imbue the performance of this sweet little boy with all the pathos and angst of a broken home parodies the decidedly adult themes that Scorsese is best known for within his feature work.

APPLE: “SIRI” (2012) 

Scorsese’s spot for Apple hawks the iPhone’s voice assistant function Siri with a playful spot that puts Scorsese himself front and center, albeit in the backseat of a taxi cab in his native New York City.   The piece shows an ever-busy Scorsese using Siri to schedule his many work appointments and meetings, emphasizing the comedic dynamic between Scorsese’s manic, off-the-cuff ramblings and Siri’s monotonous precision.

The success of the spot hinges on the audience’s recognition of Scorsese as a prominent social figure within mass media, and any effectiveness it does hold in that regard owes to the groundwork he previously laid in prior spots as his exaggerated Uncle Marty character.

DOLCE & GABBANA THE ONE: STREET OF DREAMS (2013)

In 2013, Scorsese directed another long-form fashion film in the vein of Bleu De Chanel’s “THE FILM” (2010). This time, the commission came from Dolce & Gabbana in a bid to promote their fragrance The One.  Titled “STREET OF DREAMS” the spot drops any pretense of Uncle Marty’s media profile and allows for the director to use classical cinematic conventions to evoke an old-fashioned glamor.

The spot stars Matthew McConaughey, fresh off his collaboration with Scorsese in THE WOLF OF WALL STREET and well into a career resurgence colloquially dubbed The McConnaissance, as well as Scarlett Johannson as two wistful former lovers reconnecting in New York City.  There’s no real story to speak of– just a series of vignettes meant to generate a glamorous sense of nostalgia.

Scorsese’s execution of the concept accomplishes this quite effortlessly, with the gorgeous black and white anamorphic cinematography paired with midcentury Italian singer Mina’s soulful love ballad “Il Cielo In Una Stanza”. Scorsese emphasizes elegant camerawork via Steadicam shots, cranes, and subtle push-ins.

“STREET OF DREAMS” is quintessential Scorsese, what with it’s New York City setting and Johansson’s embodiment of the “Scorsese Blonde” archetype that is present throughout most of his best feature work.  Crucial influences like Federico Fellini are also felt in the piece’s DNA, brought out to the fore by the aforementioned Mina track.

While fashion films as a concept can all too easily veer into nonsensical indulgence, Scorsese’s “STREET OF DREAMS” sublimely captures an old-school elegance appropriate to the brand, and stands to endure as the reference-grade gold standard to which all fashion films should aspire.


THE WOLF OF WALL STREET (2013)

The Great Recession drastically changed the American landscape like a megathrust earthquake.  The epicenter was Wall Street, which, during the freewheeling, deregulated Bush years, enjoyed unprecedented levels of financial revenue and autonomy.

When the bottom fell out, and all those zeroes in our bank accounts turned out to be just that—zeroes that amounted to nothing– the finance industry imploded, and took countless other industries, companies, and jobs with it.  There is perhaps no greater cinematic metaphor for greed and excess than Wall Street (thanks in no small part to Oliver Stone’s seminal 1987 film of the same name), so in the aftermath of such unrivaled financial destruction, stockbrokers and bankers became very easy villains to pin the blame on.

It was around this time that a novel by disgraced stockbroker Jordan Belfort named “The Wolf Of Wall Street” was published and gained traction as a scathing expose on the immense fraud perpetrated upon the American public as told through the eyes of the perpetrators.

Naturally, it was only a matter of time until the book was optioned for translation to the feature film format. Actor/producer Leonardo DiCaprio and his team scooped up the rights as a starring vehicle for himself.  In relatively short order, DiCaprio was able sign filmmaker Martin Scorsese to direct a script by his screenwriter on the 2010 BOARDWALK EMPIRE pilot, Terence Winter.

One would think this dream team of director, actor, and writer would be enough to immediately greenlight THE WOLF OF WALL STREET (2013) with a budget of ALL the dollars—and maybe it would have been prior to the 2008 crash.

But the landscape was different now—film studios had taken a major hit too, and the prospect of making a hundred million dollar film without a popular pre-existent property to base around it was simply off the table, no matter who behind the wheel.

In light of this new, filmmaker-hostile climate, DiCaprio, Scorsese, and co-producers Riza Aziz, Joey McFarland, and Emma Tillinger Koskoff financed the film independently via lots of foreign cash.  THE WOLF OF WALL STREET’s greenlighting is a direct result of Scorsese’s ability to adapt to the shifting business landscape, which shouldn’t be a surprise considering the seasoned director weathered a similar storm when the challenging character dramas he’d excelled in during the 1970’s gave way to the mindless corporate blockbuster fare of the 1980’s.

It’s a good thing that Scorsese was up to this new challenge, because otherwise we’d have never been blessed with his best film since 1990’s GOODFELLAS.

THE WOLF OF WALL STREET, much like its amped-up, cocksure protagonist, is all over the place in terms of setting, but Scorsese chooses to focus the bulk of the action as it occurred during the late 80’s and early 90’s in New York City and Long Island.

Jordan Belfort (DiCaprio) starts out as an aspiring stockbroker at a legendary Wall Street firm, only for the ’87 market crash to hit hard during his first week on the job and subsequently wipe out the entire company.  Desperate for work, he takes a job at a small time brokerage firm out in the Long Island suburbs hawking worthless penny stocks, but his natural, aggressive salesmanship sends him rocketing up the ranks of power and fortune.

When he decides to step out on his own, he recruits a business partner named Donnie Azoff (Jonah Hill) as well as a group of his childhood buddies—a motley crew of scoundrels and miscreants whose only sales experience is hawking weed.  The newly-formed firm of Stratton Oakmont quickly rakes in obscene piles of cash by bending the rules of the game (or outright breaking them), and as the office grows in both size and personnel, so too does their indulgence in vice, revelry and debauchery.

With a massive mansion, bottomless pockets, and a blonde trophy wife in the form of Margot Robbie’s Noami Belfort, Jordan soon finds himself with more than one man could ever possibly want.  The only problem is that, for him, it’s not enough.

His unquenchable thirst for profits and pleasure lands him under the suspicious eye of both the SEC and the FBI, and it’s only a matter of time until all these factors converge into a catastrophe whose cost is too high– even for a man with all the money in the world.

DiCaprio’s fifth collaboration with Scorsese cements his bid to succeed Robert De Niro as the director’s male muse with an Oscar-nominated performance that could, quite frankly, be the best of his career.  DiCaprio’s Jordan Belfort is a shameless braggart, a philandering playboy, and a voracious drug and sex addict all wrapped up into a singular, darkly charismatic package.

Channeling the same sort of supreme hubris exhibited by Ray Liotta in GOODFELLAS, DiCaprio is endlessly entertaining to watch in the role, and his innate likability allows him to get away with everything short of murder.

If DiCaprio is the star of the show, however, his co-star Jonah Hill outright steals it in his depiction of the awkwardly bespectacled Donnie Azoff, an impish little devil of a business partner who goads Belfort on towards new heights of debauchery.  Fulfilling the hothead/clown archetype previously filled by Joe Pesci in GOODFELLAS and CASINO (1995), Hill received his second Oscar nomination for his work here, which uses nuance and genuine inspiration to transcend the raunchy, juvenile comedies he’s best known for.

A director of Scorsese’s stature can get pretty much any actor he wants, and it’s in his supporting casts that he injects an eclectic and offbeat ensemble energy.  A relative newcomer to the scene, Australian national Margot Robbie makes quite the splash as Jordan’s second wife, Noami—the self-styled “Duchess of Bay Bridge”.

Her feisty, fearless performance doesn’t just fulfill the “Scorsese blonde” archetype that’s present in Scorsese’s classical rise-and-fall narratives, it outright smashes the competition to establish her as one of the very best of Scorsese’s leading ladies.  Matthew McConaughey turns in a brief, memorable appearance as the powerful broker Mark Hanna, Jordan’s first mentor figure and one spacey dude.

Kyle Chandler, best known for his involvement in the FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHTS series, positions himself for a feature breakout as FBI Agent Denham, the boy scout tasked with taking Belfort down.  Shea Whigham, who previously appeared in Scorsese’s BOARDWALK EMPIRE pilot, pops up briefly as the captain on Belfort’s yacht.

Jean Dujardin, fresh off his breakout turn on the Academy Award-winning THE ARTIST (2011) plays on his “suave rich gentleman” physicality as Jean Jacque Surel, a French banker who hides Belfort’s immense cash reserves in Swedish bank accounts.  Noted NYC personality and writer Fran Lebowitz, subject of Scorsese’s 2010 documentary PUBLIC SPEAKING, also makes a brief cameo as the judge who sentences Jordan to prison.

Like other directors of his generation, Scorsese occasionally likes to cast other directors in bit roles, and THE WOLF OF WALL STREET boasts the participation of no less than three.  Rob Reiner, best known for 1989’s WHEN HARRY MET SALLY, subverts his warm, cuddly image as Max Belfort—Jordan’s father and a man with a foul mouth and a hairtrigger temper.

Jon Favreau, of IRON MAN (2008), MADE (2001) and CHEF (2014) fame, plays Manny Raskin—an SEC attorney who aids and abets Jordan’s corrupt business practices.  Finally, there’s HER (2013) director Spike Jonze, who briefly appears as the meek owner of the smalltime penny stock firm that Jordan turns to in desperation.

Whereas 2011’s HUGO was shot entirely digital due to the demands of 3D technology, THE WOLF OF WALL STREET’s return to two dimensions meant that Scorsese could return to his beloved film, but the nascent digital format left a lingering mark on the seasoned director.

The piece incorporates a seamless mix of 35mm film and digital footage courtesy of the Arri Alexa (mostly during visual effects shots or low light nighttime scenarios), unified by an anamorphic aspect ratio and the consistent mixing of bright pops of color with neutral tones.

He may be working for the first time with a new cinematographer in Rodrigo Prieto, but the aesthetic is vintage Scorsese: whip-pans, freeze frames, extended tracking shots, mixed media, characters breaking the fourth wall, and colorful voiceover narration all swirl together into a noxious brew of unbridled testerone.

Indeed, Scorsese’s high-energy take on this modern-day Caligula tale gives the viewer a dizzying contact high, as if they were mainlining it directly into their veins.  If the brisk, freewheeling style of CASINO was the amped-up son of GOODFELLAS, then THE WOLF OF WALL STREET is like their trucker-speed snorting cousin on an eight day bender.

Thankfully, Scorsese’s veteran editor Thelma Schoonmaker knows this territory like the back of her hand, cultivating a delirious pace that never falters or wobbles– which is quite an achievement, considering its near-three hour running time.

Like GOODFELLAS and CASINO before it, THE WOLF OF WALL STREET incorporates a jukebox-style soundtrack to musically reflect Belfort’s rollercoaster ride of a lifestyle.  Scorsese popularized the usage of rock needledrops in contemporary films, but as THE WOLF OF WALL STREET’s soundtrack suggests, his tastes are far more diverse than his earlier work might suggest.

The sonic palette here is just as ADD as its protagonist– chasing down a meal of rock and blues with washes of samba, opera, rap, and punk.  Despite the disparate genres and styles, the cumulative effect is that of a cohesive, colorful vision that only Scorsese can provide.

Just as THE WOLF OF WALL STREET shares its structural DNA with the rags-to-riches formula of GOODFELLAS and CASINO, so too does it revel in the same type of thematic fascinations.  This makes for an old-fashioned, quintessentially Scorsese-ian experience.

The director is at his best working within the confines of a narrative that has us rooting for a ragtag crew of hoods and thugs as they try to make their own way in America.  We care about these brutish, foul-mouthed, and unpredictably violent characters, no matter how reprehensible they may be– but why?  It’s certainly not because we find them “likeable”, despite their slick charlatan charisma– it’s because we recognize a fundamental aspect of ourselves in them.

The desire to improve one’s station in life is a universal feeling, and we can’t help but admire Scorsese’s characters for working hard to achieve their goals, even if the nature of said work isn’t exactly legitimate.  The coup de grace in this approach is imbuing these thugs with a sense of responsibility and love for the family unit, an understanding that that likely stems from Scorsese’s family-centric Italian heritage.

Like many of the director’s best works, THE WOLF OF WALL STREET hangs its dramatic values along the hinges of Belfort’s family dynamics– while a good deal of the film’s tension arises from Belfort’s attempts to elude the SEC and the FBI (and subsequently, jail time), the meat of the story resides in the conflict between Belfort and his wife, or his co-workers at Stratton Oakmont (who he loves as if they were blood-related).

The establishing of a family dynamic amongst otherwise non-biological tribes is a very American idea, rooted in the twentieth-century immigrant experience from which Scorsese draws one of his chief artistic inspirations.  It should come as no surprise that THE WOLF OF WALL STREET feels like the most-inspired Scorsese film in years.

Just as THE WOLF OF WALL STREET was produced through unconventional means that hinted at the future of large-scale indie film financing, so too was it distributed in a way that heralds the arrival of a new industry paradigm.  Towards the end of 2013, Paramount announced that it would no longer distribute its films to cinemas on celluloid prints, opting instead distributing them digitally.

By virtue of its release timing, THE WOLF OF WALL STREET was thus the first major studio feature to be distributed entirely digitally.  No release print was ever struck on film– an ironic development, considering Scorsese’s reputation as one of our most vocal film preservationists.

Of course, at the end of the day, a film’s quality isn’t decided by its release format, and THE WOLF OF WALL STREET’s digital-only release certainly didn’t hinder its performance.  The film was financially successful despite being unabashedly controversial– with its rampantly shameless drug use, copious nudity, and the current record for most “fucks” dropped in a single narrative feature, the film is probably one of the hardest R’s (rating-wise) in recent memory.

It went on to become a major contender at the Academy Awards with nominations for Best Picture Best Director, Best Adapted Screenplay, in addition to the aforementioned acting categories.  It would win none, but when it comes to Scorsese, awards don’t matter.  He had proved himself as one of our greatest living filmmakers yet again, turning in what no doubt will be remembered as one of his best works, as well as one of the best films of the decade.

At 72 years old, Scorsese is approaching the tail end of a long, celebrated career.  Thanks to the success of THE WOLF OF WALL STREET, he could retire tomorrow and go out on a hell of a strong note, but thankfully Scorsese’s unflagging energy and zeal for filmmaking shows no sign of slowing down anytime soon.

In 2015, he’s already released a documentary entitled THE 50 YEAR ARGUMENT, and is set to release a new short called THE AUDITION that will reunite him with Robert De Niro and Leonardo DiCaprio.  He’s currently shooting SILENCE, a long-gestating passion project that will see him return to the realm of influence that fueled his introspective religious epics, KUNDUN (1997) and THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST (1988).

Beyond that, he’s attached to direct a biopic on Frank Sinatra.  As one can see, that’s a pretty full slate for someone approaching his fifth decade of filmmaking.  At this point, every new Scorsese work is a gift, which makes it hard to accept the fact that one day he will stop.  When that day arrives (and not soon, hopefully), Scorsese will leave behind a towering collection of works and an unrivaled legacy in the history of the medium.

Like the early filmmakers he so often cites as inspiration, Scorsese has fundamentally shaped and defined cinema– and unlike a lot of contemporary directors his age or even younger, he’ll continue shaping the medium for as long as he’s around.


THE AUDITION (2015)

Director Martin Scorsese’s celebrated collaborations with legendary actor Robert De Niro are the stuff of cinematic legend– TAXI DRIVER (1976), RAGING BULL (1980), GOODFELLAS (1990); to name just a few.  Each project they undertake together seems to bring out the very best in the other, even if the finished products don’t quite meet expectations.

 To a somewhat lesser extent, this is also true of Scorsese’s more-recent string of collaborations with Leonard DiCaprio, an acclaimed performer in his own right.  GANGS OF NEW YORK (2002), THE DEPARTED (2006), and THE WOLF OF WALL STREET (2013) may not be on the same level as Scorsese’s earlier classics but they too constitute a body of work that has seen both director and actor feeding off the other’s highly-attuned creative energies.

Most directors are lucky to get one muse in their lifetime, let alone two, so it’s understandable that many in the cinema world viewed a collaboration between both men under Scorsese’s direction as something of a cinematic holy grail akin to the long-anticipated team-up between De Niro and Al Pacino in Michael Mann’s HEAT (1995).

In 2015, this dream scenario finally arrived, albeit not in the form fans were expecting.  Instead of a sprawling feature with characters these actors could really sink their teeth into, we would get a 16 minute short film called THE AUDITION.  Actually, to call it a short film is disingenuous; a more accurate description would be an overbaked commercial and one of the more egregious displays of #content in recent years.

 Commissioned by the owners of the then-unbuilt City of Dreams and Studio City casinos in Manila and Macau, respectively, at a cost of $70 million dollars, THE AUDITION is nothing less than the most expensive advertisement ever made. With RSA and Brett Ratner’s Ratpac Productions serving as his production team, Scorsese and his key collaborators are just barely able to stay above the profound level of sleaze coating the project.

Written by Terence Winter, Scorsese’s writing collaborator on BOARDWALK EMPIRE, THE WOLF OF WALL STREET, and the then-upcoming HBO show VINYLTHE AUDITION plays like one big meta joke.  De Niro, DiCaprio, Scorsese, and even Brad Pitt appear as highly exaggerated versions of themselves, with De Niro and DiCaprio running into each other in a Manila casino and discovering they’ve both been summoned by Scorsese to audition for his next picture.

For the ensuing 16 minutes, the two actors expend a great deal of energy trying to one-up each other and prove they’re the right choice for the part.  For some reason, this effort takes them from Manila, to Macau, and finally to Japan, where Scorsese realizes (erroneously) that Brad Pitt is actually the man for the part.

Visually speaking, THE AUDITION plays like the cinematic equivalent of the uncanny valley– as if some 22nd-century artificial intelligence used the raw data from the director’s previous films to simulate a new “Martin Scorsese” picture long after he and his collaborators have passed.  In other words, there’s no life to this picture; no blood flowing under its veins.

It’s an animated corpse of a movie; a zombie.  This is due in no insubstantial part to the heavy use of poorly-rendered CG environments– indeed, the entire film was shot in a matter of days in a small soundstage in New York, and most definitely not at the three casinos featured in the film (seeing as they had yet to actually be built).

Scorsese brings his signature visual style to the proceedings, collaborating with THE WOLF OF WALL STREET’s cinematographer Rodrigo Prieto for a high-contrast, glitzy look that crosses CASINO (1995) with BLADE RUNNER (1982) in the worst possible way.

It’s unclear from this particular viewing whether Scorsese acquired the 2.35:1 image photochemically or digitally (I suspect the latter considering the heavy use of CGI backdrops), but other signatures like a dynamic, zooming camera and a rollicking jukebox soundtrack make it clear that his employers hired him for his unique style just as much as his famous name.

 Indeed, the concept hinges on the audience’s cognizance of Scorsese’s most high-profile artistic trope– his consistent collaborations with De Niro and DiCaprio.  It milks this central joke for every ounce of comedic juice, nevermind the fact that their age difference alone makes the idea that they’d ever compete for the same role a patently absurd and unrealistic one.

It’s a common saying in the gambling industry that “the house” always wins, but in the case of THE AUDITION, it’s clear that the players walked away from the table as the true victors.  There’s no doubt that the project is the very definition of selling out, but if some big casino is willing to wastefully spend $70 million on a glorified commercial with limited appeal, then the vendors involved should be commended for taking those suckers for all they’re worth.

Indeed, a huge percentage of that $70 million went to the talent– Scorsese, De Niro, DiCaprio, and Pitt all received $13 million for only a few days of shooting.  Odds are they’re still enjoying that cash, while their employers gave the film a lavish world premiere at the Studio City Casino’s grand opening and then screened it only a select few times since.

The film still hasn’t received a proper release in the United States (a mindboggling development considering the talent involved), but those who want to see Scorsese’s latest cheeky foray into the world of branded content can find an awful-quality rip on Youtube.  THE AUDITION gives us no new insights into Scorsese’s artistic character, but it does serve as further evidence of the iconic director’s playfulness in his old age as well as his recognizance of his own place in American pop culture.


“VINYL” PILOT (2016)

New York City in the 1970’s was a vastly different metropolis than the one we know today– a gritty, crime-riddled furnace of vice and decay.  Forever committed to our collective filmic memory via director Martin Scorsese’s classic noir, TAXI DRIVER (1976), this world also informed the gestation of the venerated filmmaker’s earlier 1973 breakout, MEAN STREETS.

 Nearly fifty years on, post-Giuliani Manhattan is an international capitalist’s playground where foreign oligarchs go to store their fortunes in the form of obscenely-expensive high-rise condos.  For artists of all stripes, Manhattan has become a place where they commodify their art instead of create it.

 In 2016, Scorsese would venture back to MEAN STREET’s seedy New York of 1973 with the pilot for VINYL, an HBO series developed by him in collaboration with his BOARDWALK EMPIRE partner Terence Winter, Rich Cohen, and The Rolling Stone’s Mick Jagger.

Envisioned as a rollicking portrait of his beloved city during a watershed moment in the music industry that saw the dawn of both punk rock and hip-hop, VINYL boasted a creative alchemy that must have seemed like a surefire hit at the time.  Scorsese, NYC, HBO, the 70’s, sex, drugs, rock ‘n’ roll… how could VINYL not be a monster success?

They didn’t count on their audience’s capability for indifference, however, and interest in the show quickly tapered off after Scorsese’s splashy feature-length premiere.  VINYL’s one and only season may be underwhelming, but Scorsese’s inaugural episode kicks off the series in style while leaving his audience with the kind of gleefully-dizzying contact high that only he can deliver.

Vinyl - Mick Jagger with Bobby Cannavale and Martin Scorsese

It’s 1973 and rock ‘n’ roll is at the heights of success– excess and indulgence is everywhere, from the bands to the record executives.  Richie Finestra (Bobby Cannavale) is the hard-working, and even-harder-partying, owner of American Century Records, currently navigating the sale of his company to a conglomerate of shady German businessmen.

He’s full of the cocky Italian swagger we’ve come to expect from the prototypical Scorsese crime-film protagonist, but he’s also a product of runaway American upbringing– a coke-hoovering capitalist who shamelessly employs tricky accounting to ensure his company’s profits go to him and not to the artists who’ve made him rich in the first place.

 He’s also got a sweet side, evidenced in the scenes where he travels back to the home he shares in Connecticut with his children and his loving (but decreasingly patient) wife, Devon (Olivia Wilde).  Scorsese’s pilot finds Richie navigating a crisis on multiple fronts: in addition to the sale of his company, he’s also looking for the next big thing.

He’s grown disgusted by the excess and interior decay of the music industry, embodied in figures like Led Zeppelin’s Robert Plant and Andrew Dice Clay’s boorish, Caligula-esque pig of a radio gatekeeper, Frank “Buck” Rogers.  A chance encounter with an old protege named Lester Grimes (Eto Essandoh) leaves him haunted by an earlier failure within the crushing jaws of the music industry machine— a personal, moral failure that quite literally ruined Lester’s life.

The pilot juxtaposes the sleazy decadence of 70’s rock ‘n’ roll with the ideological purity and raw, unleashed energy of the nascent punk movement.  The climax of the episode finds Richie reborn in the glow of a raucous underground concert that quite literally brings the house down.

His earlier mandate to employees to find The Next Big Thing helps open up the world of VINYL via its supporting characters, most notably with Juno Temple’s Jamie Vine, an assistant in the A&R department derided by her male colleagues as “the sandwich girl”.  She’s isn’t afraid to let her ethics get in the way of her ambition, evidenced by the veritable candy drawer of drugs she keeps at her desk so as to curry favor with her bosses.

With Richie’s blessing, she leads ACR’s charge into the world of punk by going after Kip Stevens, the rough-edged frontman of The Nasty Bitz (and played, interestingly enough, by Mick Jagger’s own son, James).  Scorsese’s two-hour pilot ducks and weaves through its various subplots at characteristically-breakneck speed, delivering all the satisfaction of a feature film with none of the resolution.

Obviously, that’s not a flaw in this situation– such a wild, indulgent and sprawling world deserves the same from its maiden episode.  Indeed, Scorsese succeeds in setting the table for the main course to come, filling the seats with compelling, out-of-the-box casting choices like Ray Romano as ACR’s neurotic head of promotion and Paul Ben-Victor as a brusque, unsentimental vestige of the music industry’s Old World.

Scorsese’s THE WOLF OF WALL STREET cinematographer Rodrigo Prieto returns to shoot VINYL, bucking the recent trend towards pristine digital photography in favor of 1.85:1 35mm film.  The high contrast, gritty texture of celluloid and saturated colors ably capture the griminess of NYC circa 1973, becoming a quite literal return to the “mean streets” of Scorsese’s formative years.

Indeed, a sequence in which Richie and his driver sail through Times Square and the rainy, nocturnal Manhattan landscape almost plays like a shot-for-shot recreation of TAXI DRIVER’s most atmospheric sequences.  Scorsese’s dynamic, high-energy style is immediately identifiable here, using a mix of kinetic steadicam, dolly, and crane shots in addition to rack zooms and whip pans.

When combined with Richie’s braggadocious, cocksure voiceover and a rollicking jukebox soundtrack that ducks and weaves through the pilot’s duration, this results in an exhilarating and unique fusion of sound and image that recalls the very best of the director’s crime epics.

Still more of Scorsese’s stylistic signatures make their routine appearance in VINYL: jump-cuts, punch-ins, split-focus diopter compositions, and even the usage of extreme slow-motion during the book ending warehouse concert sequence.  All told, VINYL’s technical presentation slips quite effortlessly into Scorsese’s larger filmography, reinforcing the consistency of his particular visual grammar.

From a thematic standpoint, VINYL is also vintage Scorsese– from its NY setting, to the rampant substance abuse, and even to the wise-guy businessmen who employ blunt force and gangster intimidation in their dealings.  Like most of the director’s previous work, VINYL possesses a strain of unpredictable tension that usually erupts into chaotic and messy violence (seen best in the sequence where Richie visits “Buck” Rogers’ opulent Long Island home at the end of a two-day bender).

Cultural history, particularly of the musical and cinematic variety, continues to play a substantial role in Scorsese’s artistic identity.  The aforementioned “Buck” Rogers home-visit sequence throws a nod towards film history by projecting James Whale’s horror classic FRANKENSTEIN (1931) onto a large screen in Buck’s foyer/living room.

The show as a whole honors the history of twentieth-century American music, narratively tracking how blues became rock ‘n’ roll, and how rock further transmogrified and branched out into punk and hip-hop.  Scorsese’s appreciation for the history of rhythm & blues is particularly evident, with VINYL incorporating several interstitial vignettes that artfully showcase various musicians as they perform seminal genre hits.

As exciting and as artfully made as it is, the pilot for VINYL doesn’t necessarily break any new ground in Scorsese’s artistic development.  Marking his return to television since he shot the pilot for BOARDWALK EMPIRE in 2010, VINYL was a project that Scorsese no doubt felt particularly enthusiastic about; indeed, he hoped to shoot further episodes in future seasons (1).

Unfortunately, it wasn’t meant to be.  Interest in the show dive-bombed after the premiere of Scorsese’s pilot, and the series’ co-creator and showrunner, Terence Winter, left the show over creative differences towards the end of the first season (2)(3).  Steven Soderbergh’s frequent writing collaborator, Scott Z. Burns, was hired to take the reigns for Season 2, only for HBO to ultimately cancel the show a few months after making the initial renewal decision (4).

Resting somewhere in the middle ground between success and failure, VINYL nevertheless serves as a visceral portrait of a bygone era, and something of a prologue to the contemporary music industry’s peculiar quirks.  Scorsese’s pilot, which garnered generally positive reviews from critics, sets the world of the show up in impeccable fashion.  More importantly, it serves as further evidence that, after nearly half a century of filmmaking, Scorsese still serves as a vital force in the contemporary cultural landscape.


SILENCE (2016)

The “passion project” is a common trope in the film industry– every director has a story he or she feels innately compelled to make for any variety of artistic reasons.  In the context of director Martin Scorsese’s filmography, this idea takes on a higher, reinforced meaning.  He is an inherently religious director, but rather than preach to the pews, he brings his Roman Catholic heritage and identity to bear in films that actively explore what it means to be faithful.

 Best known for his bloody gangland epics, Scorsese has repeatedly tackled highly-personal projects about the interior conflict of faith and belief, laboring for years to get these films out of the hangar, let alone off the ground.  The most famous example of this is 1988’s THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST, which dared to examine Jesus Christ’s inherent humanity during his last, agonizing days on Earth.

Scorsese found himself confronted with seemingly insurmountable obstacles at every step of the way, only for the finished film to be met with widespread controversy and the condemnation of his own people.  He would follow that film up with 1997’s KUNDUN, which tackled similar ideas from an Eastern viewpoint as it followed the Dalai Llama’s exile from his homeland.

 During this time, Scorsese began developing another project that would serve as the capper to an informal trilogy about faith under fire– a story called SILENCE, about a pair of Jesuit missionaries struggling to keep their faith while contending with the persecutions of a hostile Japanese government.

Adapted from the eponymous novel by Shusaku Endo, which was given to Scorsese in 1988 by the Episcopal priest Reverend Moore (who would later serve as the Bishop of the Diocese of New York (1)), SILENCE would follow the long-gestating template of its spiritual predecessors and take nearly two decades before it would reach the screen in 2016.

The earliest draft, by Scorsese and his longtime colleague, Jay Cocks, dates back to the 1990’s, and initial plans to make SILENCE following their 2002 collaboration GANGS OF NEW YORK fell apart due to their inability to obtain financing (1).

While Scorsese moved onto other projects with more momentum, he continued softly packaging SILENCE, attaching his GANGS OF NEW YORK star Daniel Day-Lewis, Gael-Garcia Bernal and Benicio Del Toro to play the film’s three key roles (1).  One by one, all three dropped out in the aftermath of repeated delays.

 Even his Oscar win for directing 2006’s THE DEPARTED wasn’t enough for Scorsese to generate the necessary financing for SILENCE.  All the while, he was facing legal problems with his production team– producer Vittorio Cecchi Gori filed suit against Scorsese for not making SILENCE in a satisfactorily-timely manner per a previous agreement.

 Following THE WOLF OF WALL STREET’s widespread success in 2013, Scorsese declared enough was enough: he would not make another narrative feature until he made SILENCE (2).  If this weren’t difficult enough, Scorsese had decided to finally make the film during the current Hollywood climate, where mainstream studios only greenlit superhero tentpoles and endless franchise installments and the independent route offered only a complicated maze of shady foreign financiers.

 Nevertheless, Scorsese would persevere, aided by his longtime producer partner Barbara De Fina and a deep production bench that included Emma Tillinger Koskoff, Randall Emmett, David Lee, and Gaston Pavlovich.  SILENCE would finally go before cameras in 2016 with minimal funds, forcing everyone (including Scorsese himself) to work for scale during a grueling, weather-plagued shoot in Taiwan (3)(1).

Despite its overlong gestation period and the numerous difficulties in getting the film made, the finished product stands as a gripping, profoundly powerful film and the latest beacon of excellence in Scorsese’s celebrated career.

SILENCE

SILENCE is set in 17th century Japan, a time when the country’s Roman Catholic population went into hiding to escape religious persecution following the Shimabara Rebellion against the Tokugawa shogunate.

Two young Jesuits, Father Rodrigues (Andrew Garfield) and Father Garupe (Adam Driver), are sent from their native Portugal into this treacherous climate– not to spread the Gospel, however, but to find and recover their fellow missionary Father Ferreira (Liam Neeson), who is thought to have “apostasized” (renounced his faith) after his capture and subsequent torture by the Japanese government.

Summoning up all their courage, the two priests venture deep into the heart of Japan in hopes of retrieving him, knowing full well that they too will face a harrowing crucible of faith that will test their beliefs to their very core.

In casting SILENCE, Scorsese places a great emotional burden on the two young leads, demanding performances that require a total investment of mind, body, and soul.  Many young actors simply do not possess this depth by virtue of their relative inexperience or still-embryonic artistic development, but fortunately, Garfield and Driver prove far more than capable of the challenge.

As the quietly passionate and conflicted Father Rodrigues, Garfield demonstrates how his natural talents have grown since his breakout performance in David Fincher’s THE SOCIAL NETWORK (2010).  He reportedly prepared for an entire year, and it shows– Garfield reaches deep down into himself, pulling out a heart wrenching performance that ably conveys the magnitude of Rodrigues’ crisis of faith.

Likewise, Driver continues to bolster his reputation as a serious thespian, losing a sum total of seventy pounds over the course of preparation and production to play Rodrigues’ tempestuous counterpart, Father Garupe (1).  Neeson, who last worked with Scorsese on GANGS OF NEW YORK, completes SILENCE’s trio of compelling performances as Ferreira, the apostatized priest at the center of the story’s drama.

The film begins with the moment of his spiritual breaking, unable to no longer cope with the persecution and torture of his fellow Christians.  When he’s finally located in SILENCE’s second half, Ferreira is living in a tenuous peace with the Japanese and is no longer conflicted about his apostasy.

He’s used his intellect to rationalize his abandonment of faith, and subsequently presents to Rodrigues SILENCE’s central moral quandary: is it more Christ-like to hold strong to your faith, or to sacrifice your spiritual being so that others don’t suffer?  Indeed, SILENCE posits that, sometimes, the most sacred show of faith is one that’s done in secret.

SILENCE follows KUNDUN’s visual template as a spiritual epic, presenting itself as a prime example of lush production value despite its limited funds.  Working with returning cinematographer Rodrigo Prieto, Scorsese captures SILENCE primarily on 35mm film, supplemented by digital Arri Alexa footage for candlelit nighttime shots and other select scenes.

The 2.35:1 aspect ratio provides Scorsese with an appropriate canvas for epic, atmospheric compositions with a sprawling sense of depth.  A desaturated color palette renders 17th-century Japan as a cold, wet land with a stark beauty all its own, and hinges on the orange/teal chromatic dichotomy that has become fashionable in regards to contemporary color grading practices.

A heavy blue cast coasts exterior sequences, while interior nighttime scenes lean heavily into the orange glow of their practical candle light sources.  Scorsese forgoes his usual “rock n’ roll” style of movement, opting instead for the austere sobriety of classical, formalist camerawork.

That said, SILENCE does bear subdued variations on some of Scorsese’s technical signatures, like whip-pans, expressionistic slow motion, compositions that employ a split-focus diopter, and even his trademark “scream-in” move (which reverses itself here to move away from Garfield at breakneck speed during a climactic moment of despair).

Like much of the director’s work as of late, SILENCE employs a fair amount of CGI to help him recreate the period– while these moments tend to stick out like a sore thumb (perhaps by virtue of a meager special effects budget), Scorsese never sacrifices character or story to the altar of artificial visual grandeur.

Scorsese’s longtime production designer Dante Ferretti returns for their first collaboration since 2011’s HUGO, as does editor Thelma Schoonmaker– arguably the director’s closest technical collaborator.  While SILENCE is presented in a relatively straightforward, linear fashion, Scorsese and Schoonmaker pepper the story with moments of Malickian voiceover that convey Rodrigues’ interior monologue.

Much like fellow director Terrence Malick’s signature technique, Garfield’s voiceover takes on a quiet, searching energy– becoming something more like a prayer than a narrative device.  There’s even echoes of THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST, in a climactic scene that finds Rodrigues forced with a devastating choice: condemn himself to horrific religious persecution, or renounce his faith by stepping on a metal plate bearing Christ’s visage.

At this moment, he hears the voice of God in his head, letting him know it’s okay to apostatize– but is it really God?  Or, like Jesus’ visions in the desert in THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST, is it actually the voice of Satan, tempting him with comfort in a moment of crisis?

SILENCE naturally presents itself as a blend of Eastern and Western philosophies and iconography.  The influence of master Japanese filmmaker Akira Kurosawa has always been felt throughout Scorsese’s filmography, but it is particularly palpable here– indeed, Kurosawa was the context in which Scorsese first read the source novel, having traveled to to Japan to play the part of Vincent Van Gogh in the director’s 1990 feature, DREAMS (4).

That same spirit extends to SILENCE’s compelling compositions and dramaturgy, while also reflecting the core thematic conceits of Scorsese’s artistic identity.  The iconography and dogmas of Catholicism inform many characters throughout his body of work, but none have been called to test their faith as SILENCE does of its two leads (well, with the exception of Jesus himself in THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST).

Whereas early films like WHO’S THAT KNOCKING AT MY DOOR (1967), and MEAN STREETS (1973), and even newer works like GANGS OF NEW YORK and THE DEPARTED, used Scorsese’s familiarity with Catholicism to shade out their respective characters’ backstories or provide blooms of regional color, SILENCE serves as the rare occasion in which spiritual belief becomes the conflict itself.

In his own words, Scorsese has said SILENCE is about “the necessity of belief fighting the voice of experience” (1), and Rodrigues and Garupe cling fast to their beliefs in the face of unthinkable experience in the form of violent religious persecution.

The Christians of 1600s-era Japan are forced to endure horrible torture simply for believing, with their only reward being an unceremonious and unexpected beheading or being strung up on a cross themselves and slowly beaten to death by the ocean’s endless onslaught of vicious tidal waves.  Scorsese stages these moments of visceral carnage much like he does in his previous work, depicting the horror of violence by virtue of its chaotic, unpredictable messiness.

In both form and content, Scorsese crafts SILENCE as the third part of his loose trilogy about religious persecution and the spiritual battle for the soul.  It’s fitting that SILENCE blends the core thematic conceits of its two predecessors, allowing ideas, imagery and even characters to overlap– one of the film’s chief antagonists, The Inquisitor, is personified in a particular manner so similar to the characterization of Mao Zedong in KUNDUN that I was initially convinced the two parts were played by the same actor (they aren’t).

While these three films are separated by the passing of a decade (two in the case of KUNDUN and SILENCE), they are unified by Scorsese’s thoughtful, passionate approach to his own spirituality– one that doesn’t deal in trite platitudes or preaches to the choir like so many cynically-crafted, cringe-inducing “religious” films, but instead chooses to actively explore and challenge what it means to be faithful, and in the process creates a living, breathing covenant far more relevant to today’s world than the stubborn faux piety that often characterizes modern religion.

The initial rollout of SILENCE proved promising enough– following its world premiere at a venue no less than The Vatican, the film screened at Cannes and then received a wide release by Paramount timed for prime awards season visibility.

Whatever momentum it had was stopped short by that all-powerful arbiter of a film’s “worth” — box office performance — and was summarily dismissed as a financial failure whose worldwide sales could only recoup half of what the filmmakers spent.

As unfortunate as this is, it’s hard to see Scorsese and company envisioning a different outcome– passion projects hardly ever set the box office on fire, especially ones with an overtly religious affectation.  That being said, no one makes a passion project so the studios can cut fat holiday bonus checks for its executive.

These kinds of films have a place in our culture, and they shouldn’t be devalued simply because they didn’t meet Viacom or General Electric’s bottom line.  Thankfully, the critics immediately recognized the power of Scorsese’s monumental accomplishment– many were quick to praise SILENCE’s complex, nuanced depiction of faith in action, and some went even further to call it an outright masterpiece.

Naturally, the film has its usual share of detractors, but barely a year on from its release, a consensus has already emerged that SILENCE is a truly important film in Scorsese’s body of work, standing confidently amongst his best.

Sure, it doesn’t have the sexiness of his drug-fueled crime capers or the “must-see” controversy surrounding other religious pictures like THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST, but SILENCE is nonetheless a profound statement on one of the key pillars of Scorsese’s identity.

It provides unimaginably intimate insights into the faith system of its creator, but more importantly, SILENCE serves as a challenge to all of us: no matter our creed, no matter our God/s, we must all strive towards a higher ideal if we are to realize our full potential.


STREET SCENES (1970)

“Not my President!”

This phrase, loaded not just with implicit political bias but with a readiness to reject the opinions of an entire demographic as inherently invalid, has been thrown around with reckless abandon over the past few years. We live in an extreme climate of political polarization, having nuked the common ground between our opposing ideologies.

Maybe it shouldn’t be, but it’s surprising to hear the same phrase barked out during a tense moment in director Martin Scorsese’s 1970 STREET SCENES. If nothing else, Scorsese’s documentary about a pair of anti-Vietnam and anti-war protests makes it clear that there’s always been two Americas, each absolutely convinced of their own superiority and righteousness as they lunge at the other’s throats.

Add to that the image of a downtown bank’s windows boarded up in sheets of plywood in preparation for a riot, and one comes to an undeniable, sobering realization: all of this has happened before, and it will happen again.

To inhabit the world of academia in the late 1960’s was to apparently live in a climate of constant political agitation and radicalization. A new generation of Americans was rising up to assert their opposition to the military-industrial complex, using their God-given right to free speech as well as an unparalleled media literacy to issue forceful calls for peace.

In the chambers and corridors of the constellation of buildings surrounding Washington Square Park that constitute the New York University campus, students were actively learning how to harness the tools and technology of media messaging to affect change. They found the documentary format a particularly effective tool in their efforts, having been turned on to the power of cinema verite by professor Haig Manoogian.

He exposed his students to the groundbreaking work of documentary filmmakers like D.A. Pennebaker, the Maysles Brothers, and Chris Marker, drawing a direct line to the narrative flourishes of the Italian neorealist and French New Wave pictures that inspired them so. Scorsese found himself particularly energized by the format’s truth telling qualities, vowing to always capture its powers no matter the nature of the project (2).

This conviction has led to a flourishing second career in documentaries that stands side by side with his theatrical narrative work. His earliest professional brush with the form occurred as a result of his taking a second job to supplement his teaching work at NYU.

He was moonlighting as an editor alongside Thelma Schoonmaker at Paradigm Pictures, where they would spend business hours cutting the Merv Griffin show, and once everyone else had gone home for the day, they would cut his debut feature WHO’S THAT KNOCKING AT MY DOOR?

The gig would ultimately lead to his very first professional screen credit, as a first assistant director and co-editor with Schoonmaker on Michael Wadleigh’s WOODSTOCK (1970). Though the film would go on to win the Oscar for Best Documentary, Scorsese eventually found himself locked out of the editing room because of his creative differences with Wadleigh (2). Thankfully, Scorsese had another documentary project in which to occupy his time.

As a member of a group of film students who dubbed themselves the New York Cinetracts Collective, Scorsese naturally emerged as a creative figurehead. Though the Collective championed the removal of individual authorship from their work, the production of STREET SCENES required a singular presence in the edit bay to supervise the assembly of disparate protest footage into a coherent story.

In an attempt to capture the roiling anger of the student anti-war movement, STREET SCENES gives an eyewitness, street-level account of two protest rallies: the Hard Hat Riot on Wall Street on May 7th and 8th, followed on May 9th by the Kent State Incursion Protest in Washington DC.

The film combines protest footage with heated symposiums in student dorms as well as dispassionate conferences in a newsroom in a bid to capture the unbridled passions of American youth fighting against the might of the military-industrial complex as well as the well-oiled engines of commerce and mass media.

Featuring appearances by present & future collaborators like Verna Bloom, Jay Cocks, and Harvey Keitel (in addition to Scorsese himself), STREET SCENES is a raw howl for peace, rendered in the handheld, casual vernacular of direct cinema.

Though IMDB lists the film gauge as 35mm, the hardscrabble mix of black & white and color footage suggests itself as the cheaper 16mm format— a far more likely scenario given their expectedly limited resources. Scorsese oversees the collective efforts of friends like Schoonmaker as well as his students, including a young Oliver Stone, who operates one of the cameras.

Despite STREET SCENES’ origins as a collective effort, Scorsese’s burgeoning artistic identity can’t help but assert itself. The inclusion of pre-existing rock tracks from bands like Canned Heat and Blind Faith might be the most conspicuous example, with the film’s general unavailability in the public forum likely owing to the expectation that these tracks were never properly cleared or licensed.

There’s also images that speak to Scorsese’s upbringing in a world caught between crime and faith, with protestors climbing up on a cross, or clashing participants lobbying their fists against their enemy as a kind of impotent substitute for their inability to reconcile the simmering conflicts within their own ranks.

Cinema itself becomes a kind of unspoken theme throughout STREET SCENES, a prelude to larger documentary explorations of the art form like A PERSONAL JOURNEY THROUGH AMERICAN MOVIES or MY VOYAGE TO ITALY as well as narrative meditations like HUGO.

This starts with the formation of the Cinetracts collective itself, underlining the communal attitude towards filmmaking espoused by Scorsese’s generation as they searched for an alternative to the capitalistic hierarchy of traditional production. The opening finds students discussing the form & theory of cinema, especially as it pertains to conveying their anti-war message.

Their formal education in film makes for a palpable media literacy rivaled only by professional craftsmen; that they grew up immersed in this medium allows them to harness its power to an unparalleled extent.

There’s a reason why the filmmakers of the 1960’s and 1970’s loom so large over the art form, and why so many groundbreaking works were produced in that era. STREET SCENES, like other works from its time, is cinema by those with an over-abundance of passion and a complete lack of things to lose.

Untempered by the cold, compromising realities of the adult world, these young voices endeavor to point out complicated injustices with the clarity of condemnation. They refuse to inherit this broken world; better, then, to simply smash everything up and start over fresh.

The raw power that drove Scorsese’s early successes is clearly behind the wheel here as well— though it may be something of a “lost” work in his larger canon, STREET SCENES is nevertheless an important one. In its forceful rebuke of Vietnam and the events of Kent State, the film sees Scorsese step out from the shadow of his Old World heritage and embrace his destiny as an artist of his own time.


Author Cameron Beyl is the creator of The Directors Series and an award-winning filmmaker of narrative features, shorts, and music videos.  His work has screened at numerous film festivals and museums, in addition to being featured on tastemaking online media platforms like Vice Creators Project, Slate, Popular Mechanics and Indiewire. To see more of Cameron’s work – go to directorsseries.net.

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IFH 648: From Indies to Producing Oscar® Winners with Cassian Elwes

Cassian Elwes began his producing career with 1984’s Oxford Blues, starring Rob Lowe and Ally Sheedy, and has enjoyed continuing success in film. His earlier roles include Men at Work with Emilio Estevez and Charlie Sheen, The Chase with Charlie Sheen, Kristy Swanson, and Henry Rollins, and The Dark Backward with Judd Nelson, Bill Paxton, and Rob Lowe. In 1989 he produced the independent film Never on Tuesday, which featured a cast of cameos including Charlie Sheen, Emilio Estevez, Judd Nelson, Nicolas Cage, and Cary Elwes.

The Hollywood Reporter has said that Elwes was “involved in a virtual who’s who of every great independent film of the last ten years.” with films such as Thank You for Smoking, Half Nelson, and Frozen River (the last two of which garnered Oscar nominations for Ryan Gosling and Melissa Leo, respectively).

“What people lose sight of,” Elwes said to Screen International, “is that these films cost a tenth of the films that they competed against at the Academy Awards.

The privilege was the recognition.”[citation needed] Elwes is an expert in the field of arranging financing and distribution for independent films, having done so for 283 films during his tenure at William Morris Independent.

Since leaving William Morris Independent, Elwes has been involved in arranging financing and distribution for 23 films, including Lawless, directed by John Hillcoat (The Road), starring Shia LaBeouf and Tom Hardy, and the thriller The Paperboy, directed by Lee Daniels (Precious), starring Matthew McConaughey and Zac Efron.

Elwes produced the period drama The Butler, which was directed by Lee Daniels and featured an ensemble cast, including Forest Whitaker, Oprah Winfrey, John Cusack, Jane Fonda, Terrence Howard, Vanessa Redgrave, Alan Rickman, Liev Schreiber, Robin Williams, among others.

He also produced Dallas Buyers Club starring Matthew McConaughey and Jennifer Garner, Ain’t Them Bodies Saints starring Rooney Mara, Casey Affleck, Ben Foster, and Hateship, Loveship starring Kristen Wiig, Guy Pearce, Hailee Steinfeld, and Nick Nolte.

On 29 October 2013, Elwes launched the Cassian Elwes Independent Screenwriter Fellowship, in conjunction with The Black List, to award one writer an all-expenses-paid trip to the 2014 Sundance Film Festival and mentorship from Elwes. Elwes and The Black List plan to award the fellowship annually. – Wikipedia

Please enjoy my conversation with Cassian Elwes.

Cassian Elwes 0:00
Some projects will come from people that you didn't know or never heard heard of. But somehow rather they got that script in front of somebody. Now they maybe they met somebody in a bar or restaurant

Alex Ferrari 0:12
This episode is brought to you by the best selling book, Rise of the Filmtrepreneur how to turn your independent film into a money making business. Learn more at filmbizbook.com. I'd like to welcome to the show, Cassian Elwes. How you doing Cassian?

Cassian Elwes 0:26
I'm doing great, Alex, thank you.

Alex Ferrari 0:28
Thank you so much for coming on the show. My friend. I know you're in the middle of producing 75 movies this year alone?

Cassian Elwes 0:34
Yeah, you know, I keep I keep myself busy, which is getting you know, I literally wrapped a movie about eight days ago on Saturday, and Kentucky and then started shooting another one. Three days later on Tuesday here in Los Angeles. So you did I do I really do. You gotta keep hustling. You gotta keep trying, you know, you can't give up. It's a very difficult thing to make a movie happen. But I you know, I'm very driven.

Alex Ferrari 1:04
No doubt I saw your filmography for God's sakes. I mean, you've been doing it for a while and, and, you know, before you get started, thank you for making some amazing films in the 80s and 90s, while I was working in the video store, so I appreciate that. I was like, Oh, I remember that one.

Cassian Elwes 1:20
I remember that was the days of blockbuster, you know, where you go down there and go go over the racks and look at all the ones that that had multiple copies, and a bunch of them were at, you can tell the success or failure of each one. They were stocking and how many that were at rent at that particular moment. It was a different time, you know, the video stores will pretty much buying almost anything, and you can just make a movie, you know, three or $400,000 and which I you know, dead exploitation movies and sell them off to cut two companies here that in America that were looking to try to stop those video shows and and it was a great business.

Alex Ferrari 2:01
Well, yeah, and those VHS is were like, retail was like, 79.99 That's crazy. It was insane. It was I mean, I always tell people, You have no idea how much money you could have was being made in the 80s in the night,

Cassian Elwes 2:16
You know, it was interesting, you know, I got I got one of the first Betamax machines. So you know, because I decided that that it was easier to get the Betamax tapes, because you know, the video stores, they would suck some Betamax and some very few people that had Betamax machines. But I thought I'd get one because the quality was slightly better. At the beginning anyway. And then. And then I you know, wouldn't have a problem, being able to read whatever I wanted to see. And then just the sheer ease of it, being able to take a movie home and watch it happen. People don't realize how incredible that experience was. Because now of course, you can go online read anything you want to see and see it and you know, three seconds later is up on your screen. But that wasn't the case in the in the 80s. You know, the you really had to go see movies in the movie theater. And then occasionally they would play on network television. But you you the advent of the film rental business, you know, the getting getting VHS, getting VHS tapes, and Betamax as of movies was incredible. So I mean, they were literally companies like restaurants, that were just putting out hundreds and hundreds of titles. And people.

Alex Ferrari 3:21
Yeah, Canon canon trauma, fullmoon all of them.

Cassian Elwes 3:24
Yeah, they just were making money hand over fist on these things and making you know, trauma. Love, you know, the the Lloyds the greatest, you know, I'm always I've always been a big admirer of his. But you know, those films were horrific. And but people rented them. And he's the first one to say it, too. was doing.

Alex Ferrari 3:45
And I was and he's, by the way, he's one of the most intelligent people I've ever had on the show.

Cassian Elwes 3:49
And it's really was the New York Film Commissioner, you know, he's He's a lovely, lovely guy. You know, I always would love when I can, you know, we'd have an office on a quiz that with a window looking down on the present and see the Toxic Avenger and the whole kind of parade of, of his characters going down the street, you know, you look at Oh, my God, I'm surprised that no one's actually made the toxin venger yet, and to kind of studio level kind of action franchise

Alex Ferrari 4:15
Like a real like a real

Cassian Elwes 4:18
Marvely version that talks

Alex Ferrari 4:20
You know, it's so fascinating. I always tell people that in the 80s You literally if you finished a movie, you made money if you just if you were able to finish it. And then that

Cassian Elwes 4:31
One picture called the invisible maniac. And I did it with with a friend of mine cool Adam Rifkin. And we're like talking to each other. And we were both completely broke. And I said, Dude, we just need to go and make a movie. And we just need to make something really cheap. And I'll get the money quickly for it. And then we'll just turn it around. We'll make a bunch of money out of it. If we can shoot it fast. He goes, Well, I've got a great idea. I go, what's that he goes, and he was using the pseudonym riff Coogan because he didn't you know, wanted to have you know, we want to real careers Movie Maker. And we did some films together doc backward and, and the chase you for example but um, you know, he he he said I got this great idea for a movie it's called the invisible maniac and it's it's kind of a homage to the visible man. And but you know it's like a guy who's janitor in high school go invisible seal, the ghosting that close up in the, in the in the locker rooms. And and the beauty of it is we only need the star for a day because he's invisible for the rest of the picture. I was like, Oh my God, that's brilliant. We were shooting it 11 days later. And, and we shot the whole movie in 12 days. And I was joking around with him the other digs, we're still friends. And I said, Nina, do you remember the last day of shooting we were shooting in this place that was like it was at the bottom of Laurel Canyon Adventure and it's now some kind of Korean university but at the time, it was like a it was it was like a university campus, small one. And it was being used by some foreign university as a staging point in Los Angeles for for, you know, students that were taking the year off. So they had it looked like classrooms in there. And on the last night day of shooting, we shot for 18 hours straight, which, you know, if you make films, you know, that's pretty gnarly, to be going for 18 hours, you know, the as each hour winds past the 12 hour mark, you're doing less and less because everybody's just exhausted and they can't even like function anymore. And it's diminishing return because you're not getting that many shots and the six hours later that you've been shooting, and it was our last night late. Well, it's you've got to keep going and get these shots. And I said to him, do you remember that the last thing I just remember you standing in the hallway and there's like the scene where they they pulled the fire alarm? And you would like, okay, was that shot in focus? They were the guide camera was like, yes. Because was it in English? He goes, yes. All right, fine. That's good. We're moving on. And that was literally it. You know, it was, it was hilarious. But yeah, it was a different kind of filmmaking in those days. You know, really, I learned how to make films, actually in that period of time.

Alex Ferrari 7:08
So I don't mean shorter. But is that where you got your start? How did you actually get started in this in this business?

Cassian Elwes 7:15
Well, you know, it sounds kind of privileged but I when I was about 10 years old, my mother met an American movie producer was in London making a film with Warren Beatty, called Kaleidoscope his name was Ali Kassar, and they fell madly in love and moved in together. And two more children. I had two brothers already. And then they had two more, my little brother sister, and and the so from from 10 years old, we were suddenly thrown from a very normal sorry about that, for a very normal existence into this movie existence. We come to California and we would see movie stars and movie stars go to film sets. And you know, he was making films with me Missouri Breaks with Jack Nicholson and Marlon Brando. He did harbor with Paul Newman, multiple films with with Richard Burton and Elizabeth Taylor. So you know, they, we met all these mega movie stars, you know, as kids. And, and so from, from the time I was 15, I was desperate to do it. I really wanted to do what he was doing, you know that one day, I'm gonna be like, Elliot, I'm gonna wake up at two o'clock in the morning and yell at people in California, on the phone from London. And, but I don't yell, I'm not that person. He was he was he was quite a yeller. And, but he he made like 60 movies or something like that, which I just thought was credible number of movies. And you know, I've actually finally made almost twice as many. Right, he made some really good movies, he made some really good movies. And so I would watch, you know, he knew by the time I was 15, or 16, that I was really interested in what he was doing. And I'm not sure that I would do this, but he would let me go to meetings with him. He was saying, shut up and sit in the corner. And you can listen to what I'm saying. I listened to him hustling people for money. And so I kind of, you know, understood what the what the game was. And then, and then, you know, during my vacations, he'd make me go work, you know, very early age, on sets, basically getting tea and making copies of scripts and things like that, like really menial jobs. But it was good, because it was, you know, got exposure to have problems with being made and see the directors working with the actors. And, you know, that was that was an incredible thing. And then, you know, went to college, but I dropped that the parents were furious in California after I worked on a movie called The Dogs of War and had a bit of money and said I'll stay in California to like get a job, got a job worked for a company called film ways, which was you know, had success with a with a movie called dressed to kill the brand department movie. And, and then they all went belly up, ended up being sold to Orion pitches, but by that point, by the time I was 22, or 23, my my stepfather and I had had a refreshment and he said, Listen, why don't you come up with an idea for a movie and we'll do it together? And I said, I've got a great idea. I saw this movie called Fast Times at Ridgemont High and I think the idea of taking the characters Nikoli, the, you know, the Sean Penn thing of the guy with a pizza, and taking that kind of separate dude, kind of crazy thing, and putting him into Oxford University would be a funny fish out of water story. He said, I love that, let's do it. And we develop a script with a guy called Robert Boris by bars. And then we made it school awesome blues with Rob Lowe. And it wasn't quite what I had in mind. But you know, it was more romantic version of the story than I thought it was going to be kind of more kind of wacky, funny comedy, but it was it was a charming movie. And he sold it for a lot of money. And I didn't make any money out of it, which said it. But if you make a lot of money at this, at this point in your life, you'll never have any appreciation of it later. And it was a great lesson life lesson.

Alex Ferrari 10:48
But so, yeah, so you made you made a lot of film. I mean, it sounds like you were born into this, and you were just ready to rock and roll.

Cassian Elwes 10:55
I was a child of an athlete, you know, I was ready to do it.

Alex Ferrari 10:59
So then what is it? Because this is the biggest question I get from producers. How do you get money? How does it change the difference between raising money in the 80s and 90s, versus today's marketplace, which is so vastly different.

Cassian Elwes 11:16
Here's the crazy part of it, you know, it's like, it never changes. And it's the same, it's the same thing is the faces change, but the, the but the, you know, the posture of the studios remain, the face has changed. You know, there's different buyers, different people, different names, different companies, different whatever, but the same basic tenant is still true, which is that you got to have the package, you got to have the script, you got to have the idea, you got to have the director, you got to have some of the actors and, and the money. You know, I'm always a great believer that if you, you know, I I'm crazy, you know, I'm a I'm a complete gambler, I find things I want to do. And I just set the start date. So I just said about it and say okay, I'm gonna make the movie and somehow or other, you know, when the chips are down, I somehow or other theory that and also a great believer making movies for what I can raise, meaning that, you know, I can say to myself, Okay, this is a $5 million budget, but all I can do is raise $3 million for it. That's the best offers that I've got on the table and then got attached, but it for, you know, half a million dollars, I gotta figure out if I can make this actual movie for three and a half million dollars instead of $5 million. So I'm a great believer in making films. I know, there's a lot of people in our business, they get caught up in the idea of like, I gotta have my 7.3 to $3 million,

Alex Ferrari 12:38
Can't make it for a penny less.

Cassian Elwes 12:40
And the like, you know, come on, that's a joke. And you know that that was that was a skill set. Because I have, I had a whole career in the middle at William Morris, when when ran out there independent film division, just out of the blue, they hired me to come and run it for them for 15 years. And that's why I was so successful with them is because my mindset as a producer, which I brought to the agent, and part of that was totally different from anybody else inside the agency, you know, they, they would go well, I says he's got this budget for $5.3 million, and he has to have $5.3 million, or the phone's not going to be made. And I'm like, I'm in touch with me, let's meet, let's go over this, let's trigger that. And we would go over it together. And we ended up making some of the greatest independent films ever made. Because we weren't worried about budgets, we were worried about, you know, the quality, of course, you want to make sure that you're not compromising the quality of the sounds, but you know, the cost of a movie is relative. And, you know, I've seen films that cost $30 million dollars that look like absolute garbage and symbols that mean that were made for $3 million, that look incredible. So it's like, you know, the relative costs of films, to their quality is not necessarily the perfect ratio.

Alex Ferrari 13:51
So let me ask you the whole, the whole chicken and egg thing, which is like you need the package, but will you need the money to get the package and can you can't get the package without the money unless you are someone like yourself who has relationships, and you have a track record. And you might be able to put the, you know, you call up somebody like oh, it's costly. And this is gonna go, this is a serious dude. But for young producers coming up who might not have 120 films on their belt? How would you go about trying to package a film to raise money and vice versa?

Cassian Elwes 14:21
Well, you know, I always tell people that, you know, if you partner up with somebody who doesn't know what they're doing, because, you know, the business is about relationships, it's about how you meet people, how you get to know people, how you meet the agents, how you meet the people that are making decisions, how you get to, you know, somehow or other actors. You know, I've always tried to be very friendly towards the actors that I'm working with hope that I'll get to work with them again. Good example is Garrett Hedlund to I just finished a movie with I met him while we were doing my band and just hit it off with him right away. He's such a great actor. He really is incredible. And, and we tried for three and have yours for years, quite another patient that we want to do together and finally found one desperation road wishes shot, as I said, we wrapped in about eight days ago. But, you know, it's keep those relationships intact with the people that you're working with. You know, if you look through through my, my bio, you'll see that I've worked with lots of people multiple times, you know, the trick is, is to, is to keep those relationships going. And then as far as the financing is concerned, you know, there is keep your ear to the ground, as I said, find somebody who actually doesn't know what they're doing partner out with them, because only 50% of a film that is actually going to go is a lot better than 100% of something that's nothing. And you know, so people go, I don't want to give away a piece of my movie to somebody else. And they all they did was make an introduction to that. But you know what, honestly, if that was the thing that triggered the movie, then it's worth it. And then at least you have a movie under your belt. So when you call up an agent and go, I produce blah, blah, movie, you actually have a movie you've produced, as opposed to saying, Look, I've never made a movie before. But I've got this great script, and I want to make this film and agents are like, oh, yeah, please. Alright, everyone's got a great script. You know, I can't tell you how many times people call me up and said, I got this fantastic script, it's going to win a bunch of Oscars, everyone says that the movie is gonna win us. That's how many films actually do. And there's very few, you know, certainly not the ones that there's only really a few that came to me, the people patient that way, and they ended up winning or being nominated for Oscars. And so you know, but that is the dream, that's what everybody's looking for is, is that golden ticket, somehow or other the film that they make is going to be the one that scores, the the, what you have to do is keep at it, keep making movies, keep, keep doing it, because each film that you make, is another incredible learning curve. And I'm still learning and it's, you know, many, many, many movies later. And things continue to happen to me that I wasn't expecting to be hit with. And but I'm very calm. You know, that's the other thing for me is I'm very sad about it all. And you know,

Alex Ferrari 16:58
I can tell I can sense your energy already, just by talking to you just you are a chilled producer. I've talked, I've worked in the business for 30 years, I've worked as a director, and I've worked with many producers, and I've spoken to many producers. And you could tell pretty quickly that you're not the guy who's going to be on set, yelling, I'm sure there's moments. But generally speaking, that's not the thing. And that's the good sign of a good producer. But I have to ask you, though, agents, that's one of the the these not roadblocks. Gatekeepers, the gatekeepers of, of actors, so many young producers have problems, just getting through any tips on how to approach an agent of an actor or a director or even a writer when you're young producer? Well, interesting thing.

Cassian Elwes 17:41
As I said, I was an agent, I went to William Morris for 13 years. So I got to work and see the inner workings of the agency very closely, because I was, you know, as the head of a department, you know, I'd be in the department head meetings, I would be involved in a lot of the decision making in terms of what was going on inside the agency. I was, and I was working on, you know, 25 movies a year, a lot of films, anything that was not a studio 100% A studio movie was something that I would work on, meaning that if there was a studio film, but it was partially financed by independent film financing by some big company that was going to co financed with the studio, they would bring me in to help to help figure out how to make those deals, I really did watch the whole way that agencies operated inside the studio filmmaking business, and also inside the independent film making business and I, I hope, actually that I've influenced quite a bit, the way the agencies now operate inside the independent film space, because they are basically copied the formula that I came up with, of how to do it. But you know, some projects will come from people that you didn't know or never heard heard of. But somehow rather they got that script in front of somebody. Now they maybe they met somebody in a bar or restaurant and they've given the script to an actor, an actor read it. So it's pretty good. I'd like to do this. And then the first thing they do is call their agent say like, I don't know, this agent is this Matt, this producer for madam. But the script was actually pretty good. I'd like to do it, or I'd be interested in doing it. So there was there were lots of different ways that people would get into the game. Another one was that they would make friends at parties with agents assistants, and, and the agents assistant would read the script and say to their boss, I read the script, and it's really good, you know, like, all the agents really want is to make great movies. Now that doesn't always happen in our business has changed so much now that it's fact it's, it's rare that great movies are being made. They're mostly studio battery pitches that are some copy of another picture that's already been done, or a sequel or prequel or another comic book that they bought the rights to using the metaverse of that or the universe of that character to spin off a bunch of garbage that looks the same as the one that you just saw. But you know, the great and great movies that are being made are being made within the independent film sector and in the international, independent film sector. And, and so the, you know, the again, that was trying to get the scripts in front of directors, directors would would meet people in the most random ways, read the script and go Yeah, like that. So I would say don't, don't give up again, try to find somebody who does know people that is that you are sympathetic with and that or some particle within that you guys, women team up together to make something come together, it all comes down to the same thing always spin the spin the golden rule from the day I started, it's about the screenplay, if you've got a great piece of material, I'm a great believer that that movie will, that script will somehow rather find its way into the hands of the right people to be made. And because there's so few, so few scripts that are out there that are really fantastic. And if your script, your friend who wrote it, you have a fantastic piece of material, then you know, then you've got a chance you got a chance to read or read of the interest, you got a chance to act or be interested, you got a chance to other producers would read it and say we'd like to be involved in the financing company, we'd like to be involved. You know, there's many, when you have something that feels like it's a movie, and it's a real movie, a lot of people will appear out of the woodwork that will help you get this on me.

Alex Ferrari 21:22
Now, I'd love to hear your point of view on this because the film independent film space specifically and cinema in general has been devalued, so dramatically by the streamers. We're now on Amazon, you're getting fractions of a penny for an hour long play and, and you know, in the beat and we were talking about the video store days, there was a value there, there was a value went to the theater, then you would maybe you know rent it or it was a 79.99 product that you would give to video stores then sell through, there's still a $20 value there than a rental was. So there was and then it just kept getting diminished, diminished diminish, even when TVOD showed up on iTunes, it was still kind of the model of rentals. But now films are, you know, almost almost doesn't have the value. The same thing happened in music before it was an album than it was a single. And now, you know, Beyonce is not making a whole lot of money on Spotify. Not that I'm she's hurting. But you know, the the idea is it's the devaluation of art. How can a producer in today's world, you know, without the connections, like maybe you have with output deals, and maybe pre sales and things like that, that are automatic make money with an independent film, especially in this in the genre you'd like to play in dramas?

Cassian Elwes 22:34
Well, that's a very good question. And I you know, I struggled through it every day, because you see the market changing constantly, you know, part of the problem with the streaming companies is that they're making all these series, there's just so much material that's appearing, this new material that's appearing every week or every month, on their platforms that are endless, you know, is eight hours of this 10 hours of that or six hours, you know, so and also with recognizable movie stars, because, you know, during that COVID period, when when a lot of films weren't being made, there was a lot of streaming platforms that were making television shows, and they were hiring. bonafide movie stars, you know, the mayor of East East way or whatever it was the one with with with Kate Winslet was like a movie, but it was fantastic was six hours or eight hours of the movie. Really good. So you know, that they they are making and competing in the independent film circuit, because they're making films, they're making television shows that look like independent movies. And so yeah, it's getting harder. But again, I don't want to give up because I believe in what I'm doing. I don't want to give up and just say okay, it's all over the streaming companies and just making you know, independent movies that look like independent movies or eight hours long. That's okay, you know, you know, you just gotta get keep making something that turns out to be really good. And I just made a picture called robots. That is a comedy futuristic, romantic comedy with with a wonderful British comedian called Jack Whitehall, and a fabulous American actress Shailene Woodley. It was directed by Anne Hines and Casper Christiansen he's Casper is the sort of Larry David Denmark. He is long running show called clown and that he writes directs and stars and there's kind of a Larry David Danish, Larry David. And Heinz is Sacha Baron Cohen's guy. He's been running with him, Sally G. He's written everything and was nominated for Academy Awards for four out one and two. And the movie is fantastic. And I think it has a chance to really work that has been acquired by one of the one of the top independent film distribution companies I can't say who yet because they haven't made and that's why, but that movie has a shot. That movie has a real shot, and it has a shot to continue to have sequels and prequels for it because the funny funny idea And so, you know, you gotta you gotta keep keep plugging away and

Alex Ferrari 25:06
There's no easy answer is there?

Cassian Elwes 25:08
No, there isn't, you know, I, I just made a pitch with desperation rope. As I said, I wanted to work with Garrett had, I been very involved in gender politics over the last few, you know, several years on my programs that promote female directors and female writers one with a blacklist one one that I set up myself with Christina shadow, Lynette Howell and my partners in color rising what, and we bring directors, female directors that come out of colleges across the country to some instrumental ships. So this picture desperation road is directed by a woman, I've worked on one movie with her that was tiny, $600,000 movie that was incredible. And I put her into this or wanted her to direct it. And we assembled a great cast for it, you know, how do we make money from that? I'm not sure because we haven't really made any money from it yet any of us, but we will. Because it's going to turn out to be good movie. And, you know, we all work for low money upfront, but we will gambled on it. So, you know, that's the other part of it is that, you know, if you're coming into this business, because you got to make some huge score, don't chase the money, and money ain't gonna be there, you got to chase a great product. And if you grit make a product that hate to use that word, it's not a product, that's how the studio's view movies. But if you make great movies, the money will come to you somehow or other, I really do believe that, and, you know, may not be on that movie, but it'll come on the next one. And you know, you got to try to keep making something great. Because, you know, if you're just coming to like, make some huge score, that's not going to happen, then it might get lucky. But it's not it certainly on the independent film business, not gonna make some huge score up front, you'll make a big score at the back end if it works out if it turns out to be good for them.

Alex Ferrari 26:50
So you're speaking of the back end, which is, you know, that's the long running joke. Like, you know, have you ever made any money off of a point and

Cassian Elwes 26:57
That's true, you know.

Alex Ferrari 26:59
It's one of those. It's one of those things, but I wanted to ask you, though,

Cassian Elwes 27:03
The studio's most creative part of the studios is their accounting departments.

Alex Ferrari 27:07
Oh, brilliant. Which brings me to my next question. I'm assuming that every movie that you've ever made, has been sold to a reputable distributor who get your payments and reports on time, every time and you've been paid all he's choking ladies and gentlemen. So how do you deal with that?

Cassian Elwes 27:31
Yeah, I don't I don't I'm not trying to work with the back ends although on some films I have gotten big backhand like gone on the butler we you know, is so huge that it but that was a bit that was a studio film, though, wasn't it? It was Weinstein's? Yeah. So it was released that was released. But now it's bankruptcy. And I don't know what's gonna happen with that. But but, you know, the movies really good movie and there was was so successful, there was hard to hide it all. Although they did their best. And they it was it was made as an independent movie. So when we made the deal with them, it was a very aggressive deal for us. I like to take some credit for that, because I know what I'm doing in that area. And we made extremely aggressive deal on that. So I'm for were the people that invested in it. And they all made a lot of money out of it, which I'm very happy about. But, you know, I'm not in the game of like waiting for the back ends, I hope that they'll come. But that's not necessarily the way that I think about making films, I think about making a film for X and selling it for y, which is more than what it costs. Hopefully that the way we try to make more money from the films that we're making, independent films that we're making. So it's not, it's not about the back end, necessarily. Or that sometimes it comes to that you can sell the movie for anything, you know, close to what you really wanted. So you make some deal where you make aggressive back end, and you hope that the movie performs. But, you know, as you said, the business is constantly evolving is changing, you know, the day and date, which was one point is unknown, you know, was never wasn't being used at all, it's now become the norm. You know, one of the first one of the first movies that ever was a success on the day and date release was movie entaco magical, and wonderful picture at the time. We were so depressing, like, oh my god, it's not gonna be great for the movie, because we've got to come out day and date on it. And and then, you know, we got very lucky because two weeks before the film was got released that way, Wall Street, you know, the whole kind of Wall Street, whatever that thing was cool, though, is that? Yeah, they were all like, you know, if you want to know what, what that whole thing is about, you got to see this movie because it explains it very well. And, and so yeah, it was a huge success. And then after that, a lot of people started using it, they platform now it's the norm for independent films, because, you know, they realize that if you're gonna spend a bunch of advertising on a film, you might as well get it into as many different ads to the consumer in as many different ways as you can imagine, while you're spending the advertising And, and so and so that that's become the norm because in the past, we're in the old days, old days, you know, the 80s and 90s and early 2000s, you know, you'd release movie independently replayed for six weeks, then you release it on DVD and then you spent a bunch more money promote the DVD release, and then you would you know, do the pay television and then Sony, you know, it's showtime or HBO or ever bought that window would do a bunch of advertising for the film on their platform. So, you know, that's, that's all changed. People realize that, you know, why are we spending all this money three different buckets of spending money on promoting a film, we might as well just spend it all in one go and put it into every single hand that we can find whether it's on a movie screen, and home on that computer or a television screen or in the DVDs at Redbox and the supermarket might as well get it all out at the same time and get people buying as many copies of that movie as you possibly can all in one go.

Alex Ferrari 30:56
So you mentioned the butler that year wasn't a bad year for you because that's the another year another movie came out that your Dallas Buyers Club, which on paper seems like a very successful wildly well known like, it doesn't is a pitch. You know, it's not a feel good movie. But it's a fantastic film. I know. I heard the script had been bumping around for what a decade or something like that?

Cassian Elwes 31:20
Yeah, you know, I was a movie I was desperately I loved. I thought it was when I first read it, I was an agent at that time, I'd worked on a tiny film called everything put together with a guy called Mark Forster. And then Forster and I had gotten to be friends, even though I didn't represent Him. And we worked on the second picture, Monsters Ball, and which then became a huge success. And it was a little budget movie, low budget movie, but it became Yeah. Halle Berry won the Oscar for it. And then I said tomorrow, we'll come on, what's the next one? And he goes, Well, I just read the script. That's incredible. It's called dad spies. But, and I read it. I was like, what, this is a really good script, but it's very risky, risky, because it was and that 10 years, you know, it's now 15 years ago, 20 years ago, it was still very, you know, Ace was still very much a risky subject matter. And, and so we we, I said, Listen, you need to get a real movie star for this because like who I go, I don't know, like Brad Pitt two weeks later becomes vaccines. Brad Pitt's going to do it. And, and this is a long story, but I won't go into it because I tell this story a few times. But basically, Brad Pitt and his team sold a script to universal, they developed it for 10 years, nothing happened. And then there's a rule came into place at Universal that, that if a film isn't made for 10 years, the writer has the right to get the script back for a year and see if they could set it up elsewhere because they don't want the writers to never have a shot to get that movie made. And so the script came back to the original writers. And I was making a movie called The Paperboy with Matthew McConaughey. And I didn't know him. So I was chatting him up. And I was like, if you find your next pitch, he goes, Yeah, I have I go, what is it? Now? This is 10 years later, he goes the phone call the Dallas Buyers Club. And I'm like, fuck, and I called the producer. Sorry, my bad. I was rubbing Brenner. She was a friend. I'm checked in with her over the years. And she's like, Yeah, I was gonna now we're gonna do it. Right. Because like, I think it's gonna be the guy did, you know, this director that he wants to do it with and never happened, you know, and universal developed, like five different versions of the script. 1.8 we're just developing it as the cops who are chasing them, which is ridiculous. And and I said, I said, Robbie, what's happening? But she said, Well, I've got this great director called Sean McVeigh out there, and he's gonna do it. And we're shooting a cannon. We raised all the money and $78 million film and you know, we're going to do it. And as I said, bombax I really wanted to do that script. I loved it. And then as luck would have it, about three months later, the agent who'd worked with me on the butler called me opposite he can't believe this I go what she said that the Dallas Buyers Club just fell apart the people in Canada with financing it can't finance it. You know? And sometimes this is also famous stories out of the rap I've written this stories and you got the rap to deep dive you can find it how I raised the money in five days. They basically told me I have five days to come up with the money or forget it. And I did the money and five days for the phone which was insane. But I you know, I got I was making a movie called Ain't Them Bodies Saints with David Lowry. And I got that crew that was there out in Louisiana to stay on and go go to straight to New Orleans. And, you know, we set that we we shot that whole picture in New Orleans even though it's also in Texas tonight. You know, it's a fabulous Matthew McConaughey and Jared Leto are fabulous. You know, interestingly enough on that picture, the John Mark, you know, who's who tragically died last year. He wanted to use the sky Ezra Miller to play the part that Jared ended up playing and I was nervous because I didn't really know who I was. I said please let slip use yard lead. I've worked on a picture with him before and I was a huge fan of his. And and I and the director said, not only why there was a lot of hemming and hawing, but in the end, I set up a zoom because Jared was touring. We couldn't do it meet face to face with Shama. So he came onto the zoom in full costume at the end. Shot and Mike Sharma. And at the end Shama is like, Yeah, fine. Okay. And he won the Oscar, which is, you know, incredible.

Alex Ferrari 35:33
Yeah. So the Matthew.

Cassian Elwes 35:35
Yeah, that movie was something that's very near and dear to me. And I, you know, I got to to work with Jim Seamus brand focus at that time. And, you know, it was it was a, a, who I'm a big admirer of, because, you know, produce some of the greatest films, independent films ever, in the prior 10 years. And he was running focus at that point, he got movie and, you know, it was, it was it worked. That's the beauty of that patient work.

Alex Ferrari 36:05
So, after doing so many projects, I mean, as a filmmaker, I think, no matter what you do, there's always that day on set, that the entire world is coming crashing down around you. And you feel like Oh, my God, I don't think we're gonna be able to make it through today. What was that day for you on any of your projects? And how did you overcome it?

Cassian Elwes 36:22
Every habit every day, every single moment? Of course, every day, every single day that I'm shooting, it's like, how are we going to make this day? How are we gonna make the state you know, we've got the entire movie in 16 days. Now that that was kind of a record for me. Insane, that means a shooting six pages a day. And, you know, was the only way that we can figure out how to actually get the movie made. With the money that we had, you know, each day is like a nightmare. And then you're worrying the whole time, it's anybody gonna get COVID It's gonna get shut down on a movie, two summers ago, with Aaron Eckhart for 18 months ago, called rumbles through the dark, turned out to be a fabulous movie with these two young directors, brothers who wrote it and directed it co directed it. But on the fourth day of shooting, this was at the height of COVID, they had 22 cases on the set, the movie got shut down. For two weeks, everybody's split. You know, it was quite hairy, trying to get everybody come back. You know, that took a lot of negotiation with all the various different parties, including the actors. When we didn't start shooting again, until about six weeks later, in the end, which was you know, nightmarish and movie turned out to be fantastic. The story behind the making of it was very difficult. So yeah, every single movie, there's some kind of story, everyone's got the war stories of what they went through making multiple war stories from all of them, but I I'm a sucker for film. So I keep doing, keep I keep this, I want to do it. And I kind of, you know, my family, my two daughters both want to be in the movie business. Now, the oldest one, and I just produced a movie together called Bella Thorne. This summer, these they tell people that I actually thrive on the disasters, that I look forward to the disastrous results, because that's where I really come into my own. And I don't know if that's necessarily true. But I am very, very good in those disastrous situations in terms of trying to stay calm, figure out what the what the what we should actually do. And since I'm extremely experienced, I've seen a lot of that, you know, think touch one, I've never actually killed anybody on a set. You know, that's the worst case scenario. But people have been injured. You know, it's the filmmaking can be dangerous sometimes. But it's what they recovered fine. You know, it's it's not easy making films, and it's not easy making films.

Alex Ferrari 38:59
But how do you deal with the stress, man, I mean, this, it's so stressful. You've made so many?

Cassian Elwes 39:04
Well, like I said, I, you know, I don't know if I'm allowed to say this. In the early part of my career before I became an agent, I spent a lot of weeks. Sure I was making,

Alex Ferrari 39:13
I mean, it's 2022 you can say that,

Cassian Elwes 39:16
You know, I was get very, you know, get stoned whenever there was a disaster, which I realized later on probably wasn't a good idea, because it wasn't necessarily like, Oh, I got a great idea. Let's do this. You know, I'm like, No, I it is very, very stressful. Very stressful. As I've gotten older, I've realized that, that there is going to be enormous amounts of stress all the time. And, you know, the film I did with, with Bella Thorne that was mentioning that my daughter produced we were three weeks out I was prepping the movie with with my own money. And we still didn't have the male star for the film and the distribution company that was by the thumb said low I think we're out of my tears of people. put in this movie. So I went back to one of the ideas that they had had prior who said no to me, rank really big. And I called him up. And I said, and I know him really well. And I said, right, you have to do this for me, I'm gonna pay a lot of money for five days, I gotta come and do this. And I know you want to direct this other film, I'm aware of the horror picture that you're interested in directing, I will make that movie, you just got to come into this movie with me. And he came saying the film. So you know that that was a very stressful situation.

Alex Ferrari 40:28
Yeah, and it's, it's, they don't tell you that in film school. I mean, this the amount of stress that you do on one movie, but you are doing, you've met, you continuously made four or five, six,

Cassian Elwes 40:42
Between four and six a year, which I'm literally shooting a movie every two months, and then the stress levels are very high. And then

Alex Ferrari 40:50
I mean you got a system, you got a system, I'm assuming

Cassian Elwes 40:53
It's kind of you know, then you're, you know, while you're shooting the films, you're actually delivering the ones that you've already just made, right, polishing one's editing, the ones you just made, delivering the ones that you made, like six months before, you know, it's a constant stream. You know, I had one friend who said that it's like an assembly line for you. And, you know, that might be doing to that, too.

Alex Ferrari 41:12
Do you have a core group of collaborators that you've been using? Post houses, and yeah,

Cassian Elwes 41:19
I, you know, work with everybody. So I figured out which ones are the good guys, and the bad guys, you know, I, I have I do have a support system, they don't work for me, but they will work with me if I find the right things to work with them on. And so each film is like Mission Impossible. It's like picking the right people for each thing. You know, what, if you accept that if you choose to accept this mission, you have to come with me. And I have great libraries that I've worked with, I'm now working with the best line producer I've ever worked with Italian women. And I've never worked with somebody so good. And she is hilarious to me because she's a chain smoker. And I feel like I'm in an Italian 70s movie, when I'm around her all the time, like Fellini is gonna pop out. And he's like, oh, yeah, so I feel like I'm in the in a spaghetti western, you know, and which I love, you know, because making independent films is there's, there's a history to it, you know, there is a real history. And I was it makes me think about the history of what we're doing. You know, there were some incredible filmmakers that have been behind me, and there'll be some incredible filmmakers in front of me. You know, I want to make films, people say, Well, what do you want to do? And it's hard to say I want to do this kind of movie, I want to do something that I haven't done before. I want to do something that I feel like, will actually outlive me later, you know, like, Butler and Dallas will be films that will be talked about a long time after I'm gone. And that makes me excited, because that means that somehow that did something that actually become more became part of the Zeitgeist as opposed to just being another title. You can switch on your pay per view, which I'm sure you do, and a lot of people do. And you scroll down, the films are available, the new titles are at this week and click on the one that you want to see, you know, you want to you don't want to just be part of the cannon fodder. You want to be the one that people like, Man, I'd like to watch that movie again. You know, 10 years later, or five years later, and those are the films you want to be making. You know, you don't do it every time. It's very rare that you do do it. I mean, that year that you're talking about, was incredible. Because they worked on cat when Kevin Costner and worked on their body sights, you know, it was like, it was like the Year of Living Dangerously for me. I literally kept throwing sevens. It was incredible. It was, you know, fabulous. Fabulous. Yeah, they don't come along that often. But when they do, you got to enjoy the ride. And, you know, my band was there kind of hear from you, too. When we made Medan, you know, got nominated for three Academy Awards. Netflix bought, it was one of the first acquisitions. Awards were the pitcher for them. They were willing to spend a lot of money on it, because they never heard of them that they wanted to move to the Oscars before they treated us like I've never been treated in my entire life. I mean, that by limos every night taken to the screening and first class flights to London and like, it was it was fabulous. Because it's an independent filmmaker, I go coach, you know.

Alex Ferrari 44:08
We give me to tell me that independent filmmakers aren't just loaded with cash all the time?

Cassian Elwes 44:12
No, you kidding? Listen, if I really want to make some real money, I'd be doing something else.

Alex Ferrari 44:17
Do you know what I always tell people like how was that the old joke? How do you become a millionaire in the film business? Start with a billion.

Cassian Elwes 44:27
That's that that's not you don't go into it for the money. You go for the love. And you hope that the money will come along during the way during now when you're prepared.

Alex Ferrari 44:38
So another question. I'd love to hear your perspective on. What do you look for in a film director? When you're packaging a project? What are the elements?

Cassian Elwes 44:46
Okay, well, first of all, you got to have seen that films that they've already made. You got to understand what it is that they're there, their vision, you know, what, what are they capable of? And then you got to listen very closely. I listen. Really closely when they come to tell me what they're gonna do, because, you know, I can tell in five minutes, they have no idea what they're doing, I can tell them five minutes, if they're going to make something great. If I liked the material, like the way they're talking about it, and I like the way that they're, you know, they're thinking about it and the actors that they kind of want to work with. And, you know, the way that they want to make it where they want to shoot, and all of those things, those are all kind of secondary on some level, it's, it's got to be about understanding their passion, and understanding their ability to deliver what they're saying that they're going to deliver it by watching what they've done already. So I think that's, that's what I'm looking for in directors all the time. It's not necessarily that, of course, there are directors that that I hear about, or like to work with multiple films, when they hear something negative, something because I don't really care about any of that stuff. My my own experiences with people are totally different from other people's experiences with them, I run a very different kind of ship from a lot of other producers. And I think that's why some of these filmmakers gravitate towards me that as I've gotten older, I tend to find that there's a lot of young directors coming back, because, you know, they, they're the ones that want to work with me, you know, the guys that are big star directors have a career, they don't, you know, they can pick up the phone and say, I'm gonna make this and Quentin Tarantino, they don't need me to make pictures with that producer movie. So the film directors that I mainly have been working with over the last few years are the ones that are coming up that really need me, or the older ones who can, who are struggling, and in need some energy behind them to figure out how to change their careers and start over. So that tends to be the types of directors and I work with. As I said, I work with any level of director, I just got to make sure that I understand what it is that they're going to do and that we're on the same page.

Alex Ferrari 46:49
Now, if you could go back to your younger self, at the beginning of this journey as a film producer,

Cassian Elwes 46:57
By the way, this is a good one I can feel.

Alex Ferrari 46:59
What what would you what's the one thing you would say, hey, you know, What, did you want to go for a hell of a ride, but this just watch out for this one thing?

Cassian Elwes 47:11
Really good question.

Alex Ferrari 47:12
Thank you.

Cassian Elwes 47:13
Not sure I, you know, not sure what the answer is to that. Because, you know, I don't think that I would want to alter the way that I approached any of the films that I worked on, by having some hindsight to what I what I learned later on, I think that each firm, this might sound like a pat answer, but it's really not. Each film, I learned something new about myself, I learned something about my own abilities. I learned something about my persistence, I learned something about my, my, my, my tastes level. Each firm was really something that pushed me into thinking a different way. And I you know, so I don't think I would have necessarily want to go back and say, Hey, watch after this. Don't do that. You know, I, I think that, um, you know, maybe I maybe, you know, I people say, Well, you know, you made psycho cop and invisible maniac and some of these other small pitches when you were starting at, I don't regret them, you know, honestly, kind of embarrassing on my, on my resume, but I don't regret them at all. Because, you know, what, I learned how to make films that way, then was incredible learning curve, you know, make a film for $300,000 is insane, actually. But I learned how to do it. And it taught me much. And it was such a great learning curve for me later, when I became an agent to be able to talk to filmmakers about how to make their films as opposed to just being an agent saying, Okay, here's the script, here's the budget, or whatever, try to set it up. As you get into it. You know, one of the filmmakers that I got to work with quite a bit at William Morris was Gus Van Sant. And he taught me how to talk to directors, talk to artists. You know, I talked to a lot of directors, I mean, a lot of movies, but he actually taught me how to how to deal with an artist, which was incredible. And one of the greatest going back to school ever, and I was being paid to do it, which was incredible. But we worked on worked on elephant which won the Palme d'Or. Last days we worked on Paradise Park worked on Jerry, which I love, people think I'm insane, but I love that movie. It's it's like a zen experience. You know, melt he's, he's a brilliant dude. And one of the best directors out there. And I got to spend five movies worth with him. Which was a longer period of time obviously than we buy movies of baby. And I really learned how to how to talk to him and learn how to gain his confidence and, and be able to to understand where his mind was coming from. valuable lesson for me later on with other directors. Valuable

Alex Ferrari 49:53
No, no, I'm going to ask you a few questions ask all my guests. What advice would you give a filmmaker trying to break into the business today?

Cassian Elwes 50:01
Don't give up, you know, look, if you really want to do it don't give up. I mean, that's, that's the, that's the best advice I can give you, you know, it seems daunting, it's a lot of these things seem insurmountable and go, I got a script I really want to make, but nobody wants to deal with me. I mean, any movie can be made for any amount of money, you know, it's a question of how much you're going to compromise on it. You know, you can make films for $50,000. I mean, tangerine is incredible movie that was made for $25,000, you know, on an iPad, you can, you know, that guy Schonbek is brilliant. And, you know, you don't have to, you don't have to be limit, the way you think if you really are an artist, you can do anything. And you can create anything as a piece of art, you know, whether people appreciate the movie on the other end, you know, that's, that's, that remains to be seen. But you shouldn't be limited by the, somebody told me you have to get $3 million to make this film, to get the star to be in it today, you know, that that should be the all those filmmakers that we all love and admire, they all started somewhere, they all had to break into the business, somehow or other, they all wrote a script, mainly wrote scripts, or developed scripts that they attach themselves to, that somehow or other that some producer somewhere introduced him some other producer somehow or other got the money to make those vows, you know, you know, they can't give up, if you've got something great, it's probably going to happen. And, and so I wouldn't, I wouldn't be, you know, you can't give up your day job, obviously. But you got to keep your eye on the prize, which is get my movie made, even if you make a little short, and that ends up playing in a film festival somewhere that you made for $5,000 that might find you an agent that might get so get you get people interested in your work. I mean, i i There are great agents and sign directors that I mean that I know they'd sign off from shorts, and, and turned out to have incredible careers. So you know, there's so many routes and you can't be limited by your, your fear of that you gotta be you gotta be very aggressive about yourself in front of figure out how you're going to make it and, and that means just making stuff. Because you know, you're not really a filmmaker, unless you're making films, and you've got to get out there and make stuff and show people what you can do, because one thing will lead to another and promising.

Alex Ferrari 52:18
Now, what is the lesson that took you the longest to learn whether in the film industry or in life?

Cassian Elwes 52:24
I don't know, I'm constantly still learning. So I don't know if I've learned any particular lessons other than I guess that? That's a good question, too. I don't know where you come up with these things.

Alex Ferrari 52:35
I've been doing this for a few years, brother.

Cassian Elwes 52:39
One of the things that I that I'm constantly surprises me, honestly, is that the lack of loyalty in our business, you know, and that's, that's the sad part of it, you know, they're people that I've helped get their careers going, who like, Cassie, you know, but I, you know, it's, it's, it's a long business, and sometimes I'd get back with them, you know, when they need me again. But I, you know, that was that was that was a good lesson early in my career. Some of the people I was working with and ended up having like, huge careers outside of me, you know, ratty, Harrington, did Jack's back with got to meet Roadhouse. John McTernan, who I didn't know events with his first pitch of these were both of those movies, ended up going straight from my film to predator and then to die hard. And it was like Cassie knew that they did come back into my life later, because I was in a position what could actually help them? But, but you know, that that's the thing as I did think you can sit there and go, Well, if I discover all these people, they're all gonna stick with me, they're probably not you know, that everyone, everyone's some type of stepping stone to each other. You know that that was a hard lesson that I've learned, but I accept it now that that's part of the game and that, that not I'm not sitting there going. Why don't they come back? Make the next movie with me? You know, I gotta get on to the next one.

Alex Ferrari 54:02
What did you learn from your biggest failure?

Cassian Elwes 54:07
To Dust yourself off? You know, I mean, that's, that that is the real thing. You know, I funnily enough, we had such high expectations for the chase, you know, we, we sold that pitcher to 20th century box. I remember. Charlie Sheen was a huge star at that time, Chris theta, Kristy Swanson, who I knew because my brother dated her, Carrie. And we thought that issue was going to be hit and and then we went, you know, the head of the studio, or the head of distribution at the studio. Lovely man invited us over to, to sit there on Friday night and listen to the first returns coming in from all the different offices around the country. And it wasn't working. And he he told us he knew it wasn't going to, but he said I wanted to be here with you guys. You know that my other young partner We were both in our late 20s, at that point was a big deal for us because we finally made a studio level film. And he said, I wanted to be here with you. And I wanted to tell you that, you know, it's just about getting up to the bat, you got to keep swinging, because one day, you're going to just hit it out of the park. And I'm tearing up thinking about it now. Because he, you know, he really, really, really, really helped me at that moment, because it could have been just down in the dumps for months afterwards. And I wasn't, I was like, he's right, I'm gonna get back up.

Alex Ferrari 55:32
He was me. He was a human being, he was a human being, which is not what you don't get often in this business.

Cassian Elwes 55:39
And, you know, he that was, that was good, like, less than two feet in he was, you know, I'm trying to remember his name. I'm totally blanking. This is what happens when you get older. But he was he was a lovely man, and very good at his job. And he, you know, he told us, took us down the corridor and goes, boys. Not all movies work out, most of them don't. But you just got to keep swinging. And you know, what's crazy about it is that movie has continued to have a big life. And whenever I mentioned people like a lot that the chase, I remember the day, of course, you know, I had a crazy idea on that picture, which is the, you know, the Red Hot Chili, chili peppers were huge at that point. And as they finally get the Red Hot Chili Peppers, you know, we'd have like crazy out of body experiences in our chili peppers. And I called their managers and we weren't Anthony and flew to be in our movie. And they're like, Sure, great. What is it that we tell them? And they're like, great, they're in, they're coming over. And they came and they were on the set? I got to meet these guys. It was fantastic. You know, you're only limited by your dreams.

Alex Ferrari 56:39
And last question, three of your favorite films of all time.

Cassian Elwes 56:43
Okay, well, the they're they're really, you know, there's a number of films that I have, obviously, my favorite movie of all time is 2001 A Space Odyssey because, you know, Kubrick was a friend of my families. When I was a kid, we went to the zoo shooting that picture.

Alex Ferrari 57:00
No! you were on the set of 2001?

Cassian Elwes 57:05
Yes.

Alex Ferrari 57:06
Oh my, you mean, you saw the wheel and the whole

Cassian Elwes 57:08
Oh, yeah, we saw the whole thing. Hollywood shooting it. They were, you know, the camera was on, it was on a kind of a man with gimbal spin around and made it feel like that they were inside. And that was sad. Kubrick was a genius. absolute genius. And we were too young to appreciate it, actually. And then when I saw the film, I didn't understand it at all. But now, as an adult much later on, I was like, That is a total work of genius. And the man was an absolute genius. So when you think about it, like when the woman in the spaceship comes in, and whatever the kind of pan app, which doesn't exist that thing and but he's on it, he's on the, the spaceship that's taking him to the middle planet before they go on to whether they've discovered the the talking, right? The she comes in, and then she she walks in a circle. And then she comes back that comes into like the pod where they're they're sitting in there and kind of airplane seats, you know, but it's really on a spaceship. And his pan is like, do you remember this is floating off the course and puts it back into his pocket? Right? All done on wires. But you know, all the all the things that were in that dump, I don't think you can look at it and go, that's any worse than a lot of the big visual effects films. And much later on, you know, like the one with George was the name that was stuck in space and George Clooney was in it. Yeah, there you can't say that the visual effects of gravity were like 1000 times better than 2001 because they're not he he came up with all those credible imagery that Doug Trumbull and, and then you know, the production design light, and they were they would throw the paint into a huge pool with other types of paint and it would just explode like that. And then that's what it would look like on screen. You know, he was so ahead of his time. And that film is an absolute work of genius. Later on in the early 70s. I was at the Cannes Film Festival because as I said, my staff on the producer, we would go to the Cannes Film Festival every year. He says, Hey, I got I got a couple of tickets to this movie. I heard it's a total piece of shit. I don't want to see it. Why don't you go ticket? You go see the film. And I was like, what is it? You said? It's called Apocalypse Now. Can I have this awful. And so I went to see it. I literally sat there with my mouth hanging open for two hours. It's one of the greatest films ever made in greatest war pitches ever made. And I literally came out of that movie theater guy. Holy shit. That is one of the greatest films I've ever seen. And it still is to this day, I watched that film ever or never. I mean, I've seen the elongated version. When it gets to the French chateau along the river. It's not as good. The final version of his original version is the best version of that movie. And it's incredible. And you know, I know what I know because I'm such a movie buff about viruses how that picture was made. We you know, I I, you know, it was it was insane what they went through, they went there for three months to make this movie, they ended up staying there for 16 months, the making of that film. Oh, I started to a bar to darkness. Yeah. My my friend George Hickenlooper, who sadly died later on. But we worked on a number of films together when I was an agent, and I loved him.

Alex Ferrari 1:00:21
But that documentary is a must

Cassian Elwes 1:00:23
Greatest single greatest line of any movie of any film documentary feature, whatever ever, in any movie whatsoever, which is then when he finds that he's in a tent in the middle of absolutely jungle where there's no no connection to the outside world whatsoever, etc. He's got a satellite phone machine has had a major heart attack, and has been helicoptered out of the out of the camp. And nobody knows if he's alive or dead. He's, he's on his way. And he had a major heart attack, you know, the, because Amelia and Charlie are good friends of mine. And they were there as kids you know, watching their dad making their movie. They it was very touch and go they didn't know if he was going to survive. And you know, Joe, their uncle. Their the uncle came in, and they shot over his shoulder because he had the same kind of body type as, as Marty. So they use Joe to do a lot of this, you know, over the shoulders and do some scenes just keep shooting while they were waiting to see if Marty was going to recover. But as I said in the documentary, he's on a satellite phone to his office in California. And he says to them, and motherfuckers he's not fucking dead until I say he's dead. That's the greatest line I've ever heard of anybody ever say that's so brilliant. Oh, my God. That's Francis. Francis that I love that line. And he's like, I don't see it. I mean, that was not a fun experience.

Alex Ferrari 1:01:52
That was that. And going back to that 2001 gag with a pen. From what I remember, you know, studying that film, he did that on tape. It was clear tape that he they stuck the pen on a piece of tape, and you couldn't see it in the film. And she just plucked it right off. And did that. To think that way? Is, is brilliant. So that's to Apocalypse Now. 2001? What's the last one?

Cassian Elwes 1:02:18
There's so many other films that I just look back at and go. I love that picture. I love that picture. You know, the I can't say those are the two main ones for me. You know, they, they they're so different from each other. But they really kind of resonated with me in a very special way. That's different. You know, there's a ton of other movies. I love Eastwood pictures. I love the Westerns. I love the spaghetti westerns. I like the you know, I love the love of those movies from the 70s Taxi driver, you know. And then later on as Spielberg pitches, the close encounters, whatever, but I met films that are that really sit with me as an adult later on. I mean, those are really good movies. They're just solid, solid, good, original pictures.

Alex Ferrari 1:03:01
Yeah, I really appreciate you taking the time. I know you're in the middle of 5000 movies, producing them right now. So I do appreciate you taking the time to share your stories. But thank you, my friend and continue fighting the good fight and getting us these great movies. And keep keep keep swinging the bat. Brother, I appreciate you.

Cassian Elwes 1:03:18
You keep swinging to man. It's the as I say, as I'm looking at this thing behind you. It is hustling you know you are a hustler on some level of your app raising money. You know, that's what hustlers do. They try to raise money now. It comes up with a negative connotation because people go you know, if you're hustling, that means you're trying to get money out to somebody and you know, it's not they're not going to get their money back. That's not true. I think every time I go out to try to raise money, my assumption is that it's a risk. But if I play if I do it, right, and if I make the right movie at the right budget level, I am going to get these people their money back. So my my mindset is different. I'm constantly thinking, How do I get money back to them?

Alex Ferrari 1:04:00
You keep doing your thing, my friend, I appreciate you.

Cassian Elwes 1:04:03
Thank you!

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IFH 647: Screenwriting Confidential – Inside the Dark World of the Script Reader with Deepthroat

Have you ever wanted to know what happens behind the scenes at Hollywood’s major production companies and studios? How do new screenplays get read, approved and pass on by the script reader? What are the politics behind the scenes that make it almost impossible for a screenplay to make it through the Hollywood System?

Today on the show, we have a former development executive, current script coverage reader, and professional screenwriter. He asked to remain anonymous, so I just refer to him as Deepthroat. Yes, I know that’s a bit on the nose, but we both thought the Cloak and Dagger angle would be funny.  He is a screenwriter that has worked in both television and features, a sought-after script doctor (he’s worked on some MAJOR studio films), and a script coverage specialist.

Deepthroat spills the beans on the inner workings of some of the biggest studios in Hollywood. He discusses how an idea he presented to his boss years ago was once stolen from him within the system and was turned into a successful property and shares tips on how to impress those studio readers that are the gatekeepers to getting your screenplay sold and produced.

He is one of the amazing script coverage specialists I have worked with at Bulletproof Script Coverage. Deepthroat agreed to do this interview to help screenwriters try to break into the business. He’s tired of seeing so many talented writers get eaten up by the system.

The information in this interview is raw and real and will give you a much clearer idea of what happens behind the scenes in Hollywood. If you enjoy this episode, please share it with as many screenwriters and filmmakers as you can. We need to get this information out there.

Enjoy my revealing conversation with DEEPTHROAT.

Alex Ferrari 0:01
I'd like to welcome you to a very special episode of The Bulletproof screenplay podcast today because today we have an unknown script write a script reader by the name of Deep Throat, I wanted to bring in Deep Throat to give him complete an unlimited, to say whatever he is that I say that we're talking about, something like that, something like that. So English, my second language. So I wanted to have someone to come on and be free to talk about everything that goes on behind the scenes in regards to script coverage, script, reading, working with the studios development, all that kind of stuff. And deep throat is definitely that guy. So welcome to the show Deepthroat.

Deepthroat 4:10
Thank you. It's awesome to be here. The freedom that I have right now is dangerous and exciting. I love it. Yes, it is. I I am very excited to give you all the dirt on anything that you'd like.

Alex Ferrari 4:25
Oh, thank you, sir. I appreciate that. So are first of all, how did you and again all these questions yet we'll have to watch ourselves. But how did you get started in the business? As much as you can say so people can find out a little bit about your background.

Deepthroat 4:39
Okay, cool. So I back in the day, once upon a time,

Alex Ferrari 4:45
the 90s

Deepthroat 4:47
Right. I went to college for creative writing loved it. While I was there. I wrote a script that ended up winning. Actually, I wrote two scripts that place first and second and a writing competition I ended up selling those two scripts to a no name, producer, husband, wife, couple in Florida didn't have a manager didn't have an agent didn't understand what weta minimum basics were at all. So they basically wrote me a check and say goodbye and said, thank you very much. Instead of going to law school, I packed my car full of my crap, but my dog in the front seat and drove to Los Angeles, where I used that money to get an apartment and eat for like four months, because it wasn't a whole lot of money. And LA is expensive. And I managed then to intern at as many places as I could using my free time. talent agencies, production companies, you name it, that was before they you had to like claim school credits, like people were looking for free work wherever they could take it. So I got my foot in the door at a lot of these places, mostly mom and pop shops, but also like big agencies as well. So I was on the front lines of like, and they all knew that I was creative writing now. Like, I'd read a script, and I give them feedback on it, whether it was for an actor or for a producer or for Director, whatever, whatever. I was able to give them notes. And they were like, this kid actually knows what he's talking about. So let's give him more work. And eventually, that led to me going into development. And eventually that led to me producing, getting my own work out there in some capacity. And then, you know, reading for production companies and studios, giving them notes on their scripts, doing rewrites, etc. So that's kind of where we're at now. And I also got involved with a couple covered services. Can I say those names?

Alex Ferrari 6:38
I would say no, let's hold those off. Let's keep the names off. But you are working with other coverage you working with? You worked with covered services.

Deepthroat 6:44
Yes. And the goal there is to discover talent, you know what I mean? Like I have some pretty solid relationships in town now. And when I see these writers coming in, who don't who you know, living, for example, from Anchorage, Alaska, and they've got no idea what the film business is like, but they've got some writing talent, we hone that a little bit. You know, I've got one client I've worked with for a year and a half. And she's, you know, last year, she was a semifinalist in the Nichols competition, you know, what I made, and she didn't have any writing experience, her first draft looked like a transcript of a, of a show, you know, what I mean? Our training, you know, how you can download those training. Like, that's what she was going off of, and that's what she thought it was supposed to look like. And then, you know, a year and a half later, she's now you know, in the process of being wrapped, and she's, she's talking to producers about her script. And it's, it's wonderful to see. So and you also work the

Alex Ferrari 7:39
development of it? Yes, yes, I did. What's that process? Like?

Deepthroat 7:45
So I worked in? So that's a great question. So I worked at several different levels, right? Intern, Assistant, Development Coordinator, etc. And I actually, at one point, started my own production company with a couple buddies, and we were I was active CEO of that company, so and we acquired a couple scripts, and it was good. And then we all had creative differences, as as you know, can be expected in

Alex Ferrari 8:09
no way. It's very difficult to hear that everyone works. So well together here in Hollywood.

Deepthroat 8:14
Everybody does. Everybody wants to be so friendly. And just we just want to get stuff made, you know, nothing to do with ego, nothing. Yeah, and, and money has nothing to do with anything.

Alex Ferrari 8:22
Exactly. So,

Deepthroat 8:25
yeah, so the so the process was when I was an intern, it was like, here's some scripts from writers that we already represent, or movies that we've already purchased, like, here's, let me give you, why don't you write up some coverage on me in this latest draft? And we'll see where that goes. So that would be basically what it was, right? So I'd write coverages for scripts that they had already acquired, that they were currently developing, meaning like, they were taking it, they they wanted to make this movie, they had either a pitch that went well, or they had an internal idea that they then went and hired a writer for and this writer is now writing the script, and it's like, their various stages, you know, you get x amount of drafts, and then the ideal thing is you make the movie, right. Alright, so. So from an intern standpoint, it was like, Okay, I don't know what the purpose of this is. But sure, I'll read it. I'll give me notes. And then eventually, I found out the purpose was like, they were testing me, right, like, do your notes match up with my notes? Do we think alike? You know, do you have an understanding of what structure and character development and pacing and dialogue? Do you understand the concepts of what actual screenwriting is and what actual development work entails? And finally, when I had written enough coverages, they hired me as a development assistant, in which case, I was paired with a specific producer who found my notes especially useful and then that went from here's a project that we've already acquired two projects that we potentially could acquire, or here's a book that we're thinking of, but that's going to be released in two months. Like, read the book. Is there a movie there? If so, what kind of movie what do you think you pitch it so that then we can pitch it to a writer as an open assignment? Right? So that happened a couple times, and then when We, when I started working as a development coordinator, it's like, Okay, now we have a list of, of projects in development. And it's like this one's for this along. So now we're acquiring talent, or we're looking for a director, the scripts out for investment opportunity, blah, blah, blah. So there's, when you get to the coordinator, it's sort of more of like project management status, right? You're, you're giving notes on projects, sure. But it's more of like, let's keep things on track for where they're supposed to be at X amount of time, right? Because as we know, time is money. And every time we do a draft, that cost money, we got to take time to wrap the project, etc. So then when you get to the sea level, it's now it's about what do we want to be as a company? Do we want to specialize in sub 1.2? million? Do we want to go the low budget route? Do we want to go medium budget route where we co produce, you know, which would look you know, two to 12 million, depending on who he CO produced it with? And then past that, it's like, do we want to be somebody who gets a first look, deal with the studio or making studio quality movies, whether that be in the or, you know, the Suicide Squads of the world? You know,

Alex Ferrari 11:04
yes, good. Good example.

Deepthroat 11:07
So that's, that's sort of the spectrum of the development ladder. And I'm sure that there are people out there with different experiences I've did that's just speaking from my own. And if there's one thing that I want to tell other people who are aspiring to be developers, or readers or whatever, they're, it's done several different ways at several different companies. That's why there are different companies, you know what I mean? That's why there are different companies that make better movies than others, or there's why some people specialize in making B hot horror movies, as opposed to the Black Panthers of the world. You know, I mean, that's two different styles of readers. That's two different styles of writing. And that's two different styles of development. So each one, I will say to that, though, that I've sat down at multiple companies as an intern, like I said, when I first got out there, I did everything I possibly could, right. There were a number of of, and I'm not promoting this book by any means. But there are a number of companies that basically slapped down the book, save the cat, and they were like, go read this, and then we can talk and it's like, okay. Don't need to read it again. But like, that's why I feel like a lot of these movies nowadays are so formulaic, right, but it's paint by numbers, almost, you know, that doesn't mean that it's easy, and that people do it well, but there is, I mean, you can watch pretty much any movie and the inciting incidents gonna have between 10 and 15 minutes, and the first actor is going to happen between 25 and 30 minutes of the movie, it's just, that's how movies are made. Audiences have been conditioned to do like that. So you kind of have to write and develop a movie that speaks to that, you know,

Alex Ferrari 12:37
at that, but at those huge studio levels, absolutely. Course. Yes. Even when you're in the indie world, even though it's even some of the most successful indies follow it in one way shape, or form

Deepthroat 12:47
into like, the indie market, like, that's where the art is made. I mean, like, let's not kid ourselves, like, like, yes, we see a lot of these huge budget budget movies that are that are really well done and really great movies and they gross a lot of money. But a lot of it has to do with spectacle and a lot of it in a you know, story off in an art often become secondary to revenue and profit. And, and, you know, other things that, you know, that tentpole movies are sort of built on, you know what I mean?

Alex Ferrari 13:19
So when you so when you were doing the, when you were in development, can you tell me a story that you were just like, I can't believe I'm witnessing this. As as much as you can give away without actually giving everything away, you can make a little bit

Deepthroat 13:36
brought about a really good cautionary tale, because I'm still sore about it. And I could tell I could hear it in your voice. So this is this is gonna be funny. And I have another one too. So go for it. So I'll start with the one that's not about me. How about that? So I read this book, right? I read this book, I was a development assistant. I was like, I was in the office every day like 730, my Boston show until 1030. And I was sitting there reading when he got there. Even calling it he didn't like reveal me. Sure. Anyway, so I read this book. And he always told me he was like, if you see something that we could acquire, like, make sure you tell me about it. Like make sure you bring it to my attention. I'm like, Okay, sweet, like for sure. So I'm about 30 pages into this 900 page book. I want I run into his office and I'm like, Dude, we've there's, there's so much here.

Alex Ferrari 14:26
It's Harry Potter, isn't it? Just tell me. Tara Potter's Harry Potter.

Deepthroat 14:29
I just covered Harry Potter. So we, we he was like, Oh, great. Like I finish it and write up the coverage. I'm like, now you should probably start reading this now. He's like, Oh, yeah, cool. And I was like, Dude, you told me if there's something online not to wait. And he was like, okay, you know, all right. Well, I'll see what you got. So I spent hours and hours I read this book. I didn't sleep for three days getting through this book. I wrote up 11 pages of coverage, which obviously young, obnoxious, too long did not read type of shit, right? So, uh huh. So I said handed to him and I'm like, boom. It was like two days later, three days later, maybe. And I'm like, Alright, I sent it to you like, and he's like, okay, good. Cool. I'll read it over the weekend. So a week goes by, I don't hear a damn thing. Another week goes by what happens that fall? Going Friday, the book was optioned for $1.7 million by Warner Brothers. And it will currently be be adapted by a writer who had just come off and asked her when, and I'm like, I told you, I was like, I told him all the dude wrote me back was good instincts, period. That's it. That's all the acknowledgement I got. Oh, good. And I was like, You got to be kidding me, like, so all these guy, all these production companies are out there looking for like the next great piece of material. But it's also worth understanding to from a writer standpoint, like, they're just inundated. You know, I mean, like, he had scripts that were towering, you know, seven, eight stacks that were taller than I was that he had yet to read, you know, and it's just like, good projects slip through the cracks. Taste is often an issue. Art is subjective. So, like, if you get 1500 knows, all you need is one yes. You know what I mean? Like, you could be that diamond in the rough. It's just a matter of somebody seeing, you know what I mean? It was just disappointing that that could have been like, Hey, this guy found this great project. And, you know, we're gonna make a whole bunch of money off of it. And good for him. Now, let's promote him. Now. Let's give him producer credit, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. that ever happened. I'm curious to know what my past would have been like, had he been like, oh, yeah, I'm gonna read that tomorrow reads it and is like, Oh, dang. Like, this kid? He's right. You know what I mean? Like, let's go buy this, let's go. And they didn't have a $1.7 million. But hey, if they've gotten and presumably had, you know, it's not like that deal happened overnight. You know what I mean? In hindsight, it's like, that deal was probably being negotiated Well, before I was even given the book. So you have to take that into account too. But it's just a matter of like, things. It's like, sit around and wait, and then sprint, and then sit around a wait, and then sprint. And that's kind of like the business, you know, I mean, and it's very much a hurry up and wait, kind of kind of deal. So, you know, I would say a lot of these young writers, like, be patient, you know what I mean? Because when it happens, it's gonna happen really freakin fast.

Alex Ferrari 17:15
You know? And what's the second story?

Deepthroat 17:16
So the second story is different company, different company, bigger company. It was a manager slash production company, right? So I was they wrapped writers, they wrapped actors, they did a lot of packaging house, they got a lot of movies made, and they wrecked some pretty awesome people. So I felt blessed to work there, right. And they had this really cool thing where they would bring us all in and we get to talk to the executives for lunch. And like, they really made it so that like we met people, you know what I mean? So we got to know the people that we were working with and working for, which is really cool. One of them happened to be a manager that I really liked. And we bonded over fantasy football. I actually, obviously. And my script that I wrote, it was a it was a pilot. It was I was like, hey, this it's a sports related drama. He likes sports. So I was like, Hey, let me would you be interested in reading this? And he was like, hell yeah, I'll read it, blah, blah, blah. And he actually did, which was awesome. You know what I mean? After he read it, he came back the next week. And he was like, Hey, man, I'm gonna need you to sign the submission, like our submission agreement, because it's technically unsolicited material and you know, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, alright, yeah, cool. What's the worst they can do? I mean, I work here, right, blah, whatever. So then I sign it, and I don't think anything of it. And then I can see where this is going. Yeah, it's a heartbreaker dude. And let's just say my script ended up being the companies that they then shifted, so that there wasn't any legal issues to a different sport and a different, it was a one hour drama, and they put it into not a one hour drama. And let's just say it's, it's a it's it made it.

Alex Ferrari 18:56
Oh, and it was your story. It was my story. So So okay, so there's that there's a lot of look, there's a lot of people out there that always are concerned, especially young writers about they're going to steal my idea. They're going to steal my story. And then I've always heard that, like, look, professionals don't worry about these kinds of things, because you'll get sued. But you that's a perfect example of them, taking it, twisting it a bit. And all of a sudden, they've got it. So showing your opinion is thievery a major issue.

Deepthroat 19:26
And no, I think it was one guy who I trusted when I maybe shouldn't have I'll say this too. He no longer works there. Shocker. I'm sure that's not the first sleazy thing that he's done. So it's a person by person basis, right. Are you a good judge of tat? Are you a good judge of character? Those are the two things that really come up in this business. You know what I mean? So, because there's a lot of sleazy people out there, yes. But I would say that it's a one in 1000 chance that someone's gonna steal your project. So I would say in the big scheme of things, register it. If you want to spend the extra money Get the copyright from the Library of Congress. bucks. Yeah. But but you know what? Don't worry about it as much as, like, I'm the exception, not the rule. You know what I mean? So while I do have some horror stories, right, it also gave me the fact that like, it was a learning it was, you know, it was, my script wouldn't have gotten made, you know what I mean? Like, I'll say that right now, they turned it into what it needed to be, I just wish they would have done it with me, as opposed, which is, which is, again, if I had written the script, largely on company computers with company resources, it was theirs. You know what I mean? Because of those laws. And it's just like, having an understanding of what intellectual property law is, is different than writing a spec script in your basement and sending it out to people. Like, it's completely different. You know, what I mean? Like, don't worry about submitting your script to contest that somebody's going to rip you off. It's not going to happen. You know what I mean? And if so, you have, you have your receipt, you have the person, probably who read it, if it becomes that, at least the company does. I would just say that it's, it's again, I'm the exception, not the rule. And while that is a terrible story, it's it's rare, if ever happens, you know, and it's just my luck that happened to me. So. And that's where I would end it, you know what I mean?

Alex Ferrari 21:14
But I also heard the mythical story of how when Tim Burton was working at Disney, he drew Jack's skeleton and a bunch of the characters from Nightmare Before Christmas, and threw them away in the trash can, someone picked it up and said, these are great. And these are great. And he put them away. And from that point on, it was owned by Disney, because he signed the contract that said, anything they creates, while they're on company, time is theirs.

Deepthroat 21:39
And the same thing works. So where I work now, it's the same situation, right? So it I don't know, should I even say what I do now? Yeah, okay, that's fine. So. So the, it's the same way, right? So if I develop something on, like, I'm even scared because of that process, to like, bring my personal computer in and use the Wi Fi. You know what I mean? Because they could, even though I'm doing it on my computer, I may not even be working at that time. But I'm still using technically their resources, because they're the ones paying for the life, you know what I mean? So it's like, I don't even it gets crazy. You know what I mean? So it's like, if you're going to be working at a company, like a production company, and you're going to be one of these low level employees with thoughts of like, I'm going to get my work out there. Just be cautious. Just understand the game. You know what I mean? Don't do it on your company computer, which, at this point, sounds like common sense, right? It didn't five, seven years ago, you know, right. So I wasn't even thinking that that would be a thing. But it was a learning process. And I've since sold other things. And I'm not, you know, it's not like I'm my dreams were shattered. My, my swan song that I was getting out there. It's like,

Alex Ferrari 22:50
well, one thing I find fascinating about your story in general, is that your your script, you also do, obviously script writing or script reading and script coverage, which we're going to get into but you're also a, a successful screenwriter, you actually sold material you've developed material, you're not just a script, a script reader, or a script, or script, someone who does script coverage, which I think is an assumption that a lot of people, especially screenwriters, young screenwriters think that the script coverage guys are all, you know, 18. Yeah. You know, and there is some truth to that there is there is.

Deepthroat 23:26
So, again, I'm the exception to the rule. All right. So I've actually, I've actually been in talks with, you know, actually, we'll talk about that, when we'll talk about that when you and I sure. But you know, so there are sites out there, you know what I mean, that do have working writers. But to be perfectly honest with you, you don't want to get the coverage notes that you're going to get from a working writer necessarily all the time, because those aren't the people that are going to be reading your material at the production companies. You know what I mean? The first line of defense at any production company is the internet is the development assistance. So if you're writing for the people who are actual writers, you're going to get a vastly different perspective on what the material should be, versus what the 18 to 24 year old fresh out of college doesn't have a effing clue about what good writing is. And it's just hoping to maybe become a producer or a low level employee at this company that they're working for. Those are the people that are reading scripts.

Alex Ferrari 24:26
So let's go so let's go real quick. Let's back up for a second let's go through the process of getting coverage like can you explain to the audience what the process is completely from soup to nuts, so they can get a better idea?

Deepthroat 24:38
Yeah, so are we talking from like a coverage site? Or are we talking coverage from a development company

Alex Ferrari 24:45
I'm gonna go development company because I mean, when you go to a coverage site, like like, you know, my coverage site, or something like that, you're you're working with readers, and they're just you're getting notes from your you know, and trying to help the writer move forward with their process in one way, shape or form? Is that accurate? Yeah. Okay. But now when you're sending it to a development company production company, I would rather get that workflow involved because I think that's a little bit more behind the curtains.

Deepthroat 25:14
Yeah, yeah, it's Yeah, I agree with you. So the big hurdle that you have to get over it, right is getting it there in the first place, you know, because a lot of these companies, it's not like, you can call them up and be like, Hey, I have this script. Do you want to read it? Because they're not even gonna answer your call, you know, get get past the gatekeeper. If you send them to like the info at production company.com email address, it's gonna go straight to the trash, you're gonna get a note that says, hey, we don't accept unsolicited material. By the way, please sign this, your script is not going to be read your blah, blah, blah, you ended up in the trash. So get it. So how do you the question should be first, how do you get there? Right? And you get there by having a friend who possibly works there. You know what I mean? Which means, you know, there's a lot of runners out there, like, oh, I don't have to live in LA. If you're an aspiring writer, chances are you do have to go out there at some point, you don't I mean, you have to you have to do your time. You have to Yeah, everybody has to, you know what I mean? Go Live, go get coffee, go grind it out. That's why I interned you know what I mean, because I got to know these people, who could then get my script into places without me needing representation. Now, the other side of that is if you have a manager, or you have an agent that can say, pick up the phone and be like, hey, Steven Spielberg, do you want to read the script? Oh, yeah. Thanks, John ROM, and then, right. So there's that side of the coin, too. For people who are looking to get, you know, to break into the industry? That one's more rare than the other side of the coin. Right. So my was to pull the curtain back a little bit. You have to understand the level of fear that these developments teachers and assistants have?

Alex Ferrari 26:46
Well, generally, the business in general is

Deepthroat 26:48
fearful. Yeah. Oh, and yes, absolutely. And I think the higher you get up, the higher the stakes are, but those people are already making, presumably a decent amount of money. You know what I mean? It's the people who are making $450 a week who are there from seven o'clock till 10 o'clock at night reading scripts, who are wanting to put their neck out there because they want to get noticed and appreciated and, and promoted, etc. They want to get to that next level. But it's like you get just to like, you get one chance to submit your script and impress a producer. It's the same with being an intern or an assistant. If you bring them garbage, they're going to think of you as a person who enjoys garbage, you know what I mean? So the level of fear at these places and this is why you get 1500 nose is because you have to have you have to find the person who's got the stones, or you know, the the guts.

Alex Ferrari 27:39
Oh, nice Kahunas right to to be like,

Deepthroat 27:43
Hey, boss person, I think I found a really good script. And I think you should read it, you know what I mean? Like,

Alex Ferrari 27:50
okay, because they got one shot. So as much as the writer has the one shot, the script reader has the one shot

Deepthroat 27:55
exactly. And as I think as writers, we forget that, you know what I mean, especially aspiring writers, because it's not just your career that's in jeopardy here. It's it, you start at the entry level, you your entry level script, goes to the entry level person. Now, do you think Jonathan Nolan scripts go to the entry level person, you got to be out your damn mind? All he has to do is pick up the phone and say, hey, it's Jonathan Nolan. You want to read my script? And it's like, oh, we'll buy it. You know, like the page one title. Okay, great. It's got a title page, this is probably going to die. You know, I mean, right. And let's like, so that's a completely different scenario. But the people who aren't on the people who aren't Jonathan, the ones of the world, and the people who maybe are like, second and third tier, Jonathan Nolan's even, they go straight to the development assistance first, you know, and I think that that is something to understand his level of fear and hesitation there. So they're always looking to find what's wrong with your script. They're looking, I worked for a boss once who told me to read a script till it's third mistake, and then throw it in the trash. So that that could have been grammar that could have been spelling, they could have been formatting, which is a big one. Because if you don't know how to format a script, you don't know you don't understand what a script is, you know what I mean? So it was like, we read the script to the third mistake. And if it's in the first 10 pages, throw it away, you know what I mean? If you get past 30, and then you get it, and it's like, you already invested in the story. At that point, you might as well just finish it, you know. But if they make three mistakes in the first three pages of the first 10 pages, like people always say like, it's your first 10 pages that sell you know what I mean? If nobody's gonna watch if you're not hooked in the first 10 pages of a book, or have a have a play, or have a film or have a script, like it's dying, you know what I mean? The same goes for us aspiring screenwriters. So it's like, you have to be sure that that at least the your first 30 pages are absolutely flawless. You know what I mean? And I'm not just talking story, I'm talking formatting spelling.

Alex Ferrari 29:49
Yeah, talk a little bit about that, because that is something that is unknown to me, because I've read so many scripts that I'm like to spell check man, right? Like just for me, it's final draft. You format, this is not difficult anymore, guys. We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor. And now back to the show.

Deepthroat 30:15
You know what it is? Honestly, it's a pride in one's work. And if, if you're asking somebody to take an hour to three hours out of their day to read your script, you better give them something that's looks like you put a lot of effort into it. You know what I mean? Because if you're trying to get somebody to buy your stuff, but you have, you can't spell the name of your main character, right? Four or five times? Why should we? You obviously didn't care? Why should we? You know what I mean? And I think that's another thing that goes missed on people. So it's like, as as when you pull back the curtain, those are the things that first stand out, right? The first thing that anybody's gonna do when they read your script, as a development assistant is flip to the back page and see how long it is. Yep. They're gonna say, this is going to take me. So if you're submitting 130 page script, they're going to put that on the bottom of the pile and go to the 90 page script, because the in their eyes, it's like, oh, I can go tell my boss that I read four scripts today. So I'm going to do the short ones first and save the long one for the weekend. You know what I mean? So again, something to acknowledge right

Alex Ferrari 31:14
now. But also, I also heard that sometimes you can lie and change the the number count inside. So if you're like at 101, you could put you could just omit numbers in the middle of the script to make it look like it's a 90 pig script when it's actually really, I've never heard of that. You've never heard I've seen that.

Deepthroat 31:34
That's hilarious. I've probably read scripts where I was just flying through it so fast that I didn't realize that there was that for page four.

Alex Ferrari 31:43
They just skip a page and you just forget about it. And but that's it. I'm not suggesting anyone does that. But I've heard of it. So I didn't know if you've ever apparently worked because you've never seen one.

Deepthroat 31:54
Yeah, right. Yeah, exactly. Which is, which is an interesting thing. But also it's like I it's pretty easy to tell when you've got a 90 page script sitting next to 130 page script. Well, then if there's

Alex Ferrari 32:03
yeah, there's only a handful of pages you could cut off with that technique. Yeah. Yeah. Five, six pages, Shane, like

Deepthroat 32:10
101 to 1909 is gonna break. If you're really hiding pages at that point, like, yeah, like, I think you've got bigger problems.

Alex Ferrari 32:18
You know, you're absolutely right, if you're exactly if you can't shave eight pages off, or 10 pages off, you're going to close,

Deepthroat 32:25
you know, and that's, so my manager, and my agents are very good about allowing me, especially my early drafts, to write what I want to write. But then, you know, when we're about to go to market, they're very good about being like, listen, you're at 117 right now, which is fine. But like, go through the script, again, take a couple days off, get drunk, you know, maybe smoke a joint, like, do do whatever it is that you need to do to get out of the writer mind frame and get into the reader mind frame. And think to yourself like, this is your final draft short, but what absolutely doesn't have to be there. And undoubtedly, I end up cutting four or five scenes, which brings it from a 117 to a 108 or a 104. You know what I mean? Because it's so it ends up being like, no, yes, I love this sandwich. It was Ernest Hemingway that says, like, go back through, delete all your good lines. See if the story still works, or something like that. Yeah, something like that. It's like, it's so true. You know what I mean? Because we as writers, we like get attached to certain things that as writers we love, but it's like readers, it's like, okay, this is just more for them to get through to get to the next point. You know what I mean? And I hate to say that, because that's where a lot of the art comes in. You know what I mean?

Alex Ferrari 33:42
Well, no, it was Hemingway or Mamet that said, writing is easy. All you have to do is sit at the typewriter and bleed.

Deepthroat 33:48
That's a Yeah, that was a Hemingway. Yeah, yeah, that's Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's so true. You know what I mean? And it's even believed even more, because he's also saying writing and after all, is rewriting, you know, I mean, so he's, he's a big proponent of like, Sure, bleed, but then go back and cut yourself open a few more times. And when you don't die, that's, that's the script of the story.

Alex Ferrari 34:11
It is, it is it's quite brutal sometimes.

Deepthroat 34:15
To be really diligent, because those are the types of things that is development assistance. If you go through and they, they see that you've got like, eight scenes that don't necessarily, like if you've got a savvy reader, you know, you're lucky, but you're also in a spot where it's like, you better be on out. Yeah, you your script better be on because this guy is gonna be or this girl is gonna be, you know what I mean? So it's like, she's got a great perspective of what a good script is. So you're better you better fit the mold, you know what I mean? And realize too, that like when you pull back the curtain i, this is I think I speak for every development or reader person, regardless of you're in, you know, a major studio or a small production company, you're looking for reasons to say no, you know what I mean? Like from, from the title page, the end of the script, you're looking for reasons to say no. And protect your little area of comfortability that you've built it your internship or your development assistant jobs. Yeah. You know what I mean? So it's like, you're looking for reasons to say no, because no doesn't put you risk, you know? Uh, yes. Is immediately when you like, roll the dice at the craps table, you know what I mean? So, I think from and, Dude, I gotta tell you, I read some fantastic scripts, as well, that like, didn't fit in line with what our production companies mandate was at that time. You know what I mean? So even though we had, we've maybe had won an Oscar for a drama movie, we were focusing on low budget comedy. So while I've got this great script that I would love to recommend, because yeah, when you look at our, our, our IMDB page of scripts that we've done, it's like, yeah, that would definitely fit into the mold, but not our current mandate. You know what I mean? So like, understanding what a production company's current mandate is, and understanding that that's fluid and changing. Whereas like, you know, most production companies, if your horror, your horror, you know what I mean? Like your blue house, your blue house, you could sort of have a mandate. It's like, we're looking for female led horrors, or we're looking for, you know, paranormal type of stuff or, you know, purge just did really great. Can we find our own purge? You know, what I mean, it's like, they think like that, you know, what I mean? Like, trend followers, writers like to think of themselves as trendsetters, where do you find the balance of fitting into what these production companies are trying to do moving forward in the future? And the truth is, is that a lot of them don't have a clue what they want? What

Alex Ferrari 36:37
do you agree right now, how many production companies around town are looking for the next Crazy Rich agent agents?

Deepthroat 36:44
Oh, I think I think every everyone, right,

Alex Ferrari 36:47
everyone right now is looking for that script.

Deepthroat 36:50
But three years ago, whenever when that was going out to market, nobody would have Crickets. Crickets, you know, I mean, it's the same way the Stranger Things I don't know. And our story, you're wrong. I I've only heard it secondhand, but they got like, reject everybody, every network. Every right. Yep. Look, they're like, We don't understand the tone. We don't understand the tone. Like why are these kids like swearing and stuff like that, like, we just don't is as an adult adult show his kid show it's fantasy. It's

Alex Ferrari 37:16
reality could not deal with it. They just couldn't deal with it. They couldn't wrap

Deepthroat 37:20
their heads around it. And now guess what they're doing? Everybody wants their own Stranger Things? You know, of course. So like, if you think if these companies like if you live in LA, and you meet a producer at a bar, and you're getting drunk next to the pool or something like that, he's like, oh, yeah, you know, we're looking for female led crime thrillers that are four quadrant. And you're like, yes. Okay, I've got one of those. You know what I mean? Like, say, Yes, obviously, you know what I mean, right? Even if it doesn't fit all those bills, because they're not, they don't know what they want, they know what they think they want. And you have to convince them that what they think they want is actually what you have, you know what I mean? But isn't it just, there's just so many hurdles that you have to get through, you know,

Alex Ferrari 38:06
but there are those few those are those few producers and companies who are ahead of the curve. And I think 99% of the rest of the town is chasing the

Deepthroat 38:16
chasing. Yeah, I agree. I agree. 100%? Because those

Alex Ferrari 38:20
because the ones the first ones through the wall are always bloodied.

Deepthroat 38:23
Yeah, exactly. And and, and I think to that, like, it's a great observation to make, because those are also the companies who may not be around in five years, you know what I mean? Correct? Because, because they were willing to take chances. And I think it goes back to what we were talking about before, which is like, why do we, why are we risking our comfortable ball here to potentially be out of business in five years, because we went and bought three scripts that we're not going to be able to get cast or financed or packaged, or in front of screen, you know, in front of viewers, you know what I mean? So it's like, I, everybody wants to call themselves a producer. You know what I

Alex Ferrari 39:01
mean? Oh, everyone's a producer. And everyone. Yeah, and

Deepthroat 39:05
it's just like I, you know, it comes back to what my first story, which is, are you a good judge of character? Are you good judge of talent, pair yourself up with the people that you trust that you work with that, you know, and before you start slinging your script around to like, everybody in their mother trying to get in front of as many people, it's not about getting it. It's not about a numbers game. It's about the right people. Because if you get in front of the right people, like I've got a buddy that works. He's a very successful agent, and he works in a very successful company. He he came out a couple years after I did, I knew him through a friend we've since become great friends. Even though he read some of my he actually read that that script that I was talking about, he was one of the guys that read it and he was like, Dude, this is a fucking great script. Like, I want you to change this, that and the other and then all that shit went down and it was like dude, don't worry about it. Work on Next one. And he was very good about like keeping, he wasn't even my agent. And he was really good about like keeping me more like, focused, you know? He says, And he was like, Dude, it's not going to be the only good thing you ever write. You know, it's just the first thing, first good thing you ever wrote. So, keep writing and just know that this door's always open. And even if I say no, even if it's not for me, I'm not closing the door on you. And that's the type of people that slider should look for. You know what I mean? Because you build the bond first, I didn't meet this guy, knowing that he was going to become this great agent, I met this guy, because, again, ironically, we bonded over football, he went to a big football school, I went to a big football school, my buddy, who I knew from high school, went to that school, we were rivals, we were at a we were at shit with Barney's Beanery, watching college football, I get I get introduced this guy who's a low level intern at the point at that point, and I'm like, Dude, I like you. Let's hang out, let's get beers. And we became friends. And as he climbed the ladder, so did I. And even to this day, if I wanted to fire my current agent, I'd know that I had an open door at his because I know that I could send him stuff. And that's the type of people that you need to be looking for. It's not the it's not the numbers, it's the quality is quality, not quantity. So make the relationships with people. Keep those relationships up. I think if you come out here, looking for money, and looking to network and meet as many people as you possibly can to help you, you're going in with the wrong mentality, you go in knowing that like, you want to make this place a home, you want to make this business a home, you want to make these people, your friends. And that's so rare to find in LA. And that's why so many people turn tail and run after five, six years, because they can't afford it. And they know that their yoga job isn't gonna make them enough money to survive and raise kids, you know,

Alex Ferrari 41:45
who do Uber job, every time I get into an Uber, I always go, how's the script gone? I've actually done that a few times. And they go, how do you know, you know? Are you a producer? I'm like, No, I'm

Deepthroat 41:57
not. Sorry, but I guarantee you, they said, if you said that you were they'd be like, Oh, well, do you mind if I get your email address? It's like, that's not a relationship built on trust and integrity is really built on wants and needs and unrealistic expectations.

Alex Ferrari 42:11
That's a great, great, that's a great way to put it. It really is. Because I always tell people like if you if you met someone at a party, you wouldn't just jam your script in their face. Yeah, you would meet them, you introduce yourself, if you're if you're a human, if you introduce yourself and go, Hey, how are you? And I always tell people, you always ask them what you can, what can I do for you? How can I be of service to you, then that's a great way to start a relationship and start building

Deepthroat 42:39
truly is and you know, and even like so, even outside of that, you know what I mean? Where it's like, it's like, Hey, you we have something on common ground to bond over? You know what I mean? Maybe they're excited about going to see Crazy Rich Asians. And so are you. It's like, dude, let's go together. Right? You know what I mean? Let's go together. Let's go talk. You know what I mean? Like, build a relationship up from the ground, just like you would if you were moving to, you know, Podunk Ville, wherever. Yeah. And I mean, it's like, how are you going to meet people, you know, what I mean, you're going to get involved in the community, you're going to do things that the community likes to do, you're gonna find common ground. And maybe I have a different perspective, because I moved around a lot as a kid. So whenever I go, it's like, when I was going to a new place, it was like sports, it was clubs. It was it was, you know, community, you know, meetings, whether it be churches or whatever, you know what I mean? Like, that's how our family integrated in the community and you have to go out with the mentality of like, I'm going to integrate into the community first. And you're going to find that like, if you go out there with genuine intentions to like, meet people, instead of meet people that are going to help you. The perspective is it may not seem like it, but the perspective is drastically different. And so are the results.

Alex Ferrari 43:55
Amen, preach, sir, preach

Unknown Speaker 43:59
my candles.

Alex Ferrari 44:02
Now, as going back to being a script reader, what is the biggest mistake you see screenwriters make?

Deepthroat 44:09
So every I've met a woman, changed my life, changed my perspective, really, on what it meant to be a writer. And granted at this point, I'd already sold two scripts, blah, blah, blah. You know, got my, my creative writing degree. I got my MFA in screenwriting, I got all this stuff, right. And I went to the WNBA. And this woman, I'm not gonna say her name. She was giving a talk. They're super successful. And she was like, you know, everybody around town has kind of come up with that next great idea when they should be coming up with the next great character. And that really spoke volumes.

Alex Ferrari 44:47
Let's see. That's deep, but yet simple.

Deepthroat 44:50
It's so simple, right? And it's like, I'm sitting there in the audience and all of a sudden, it's like, light bulb going off and like I'm getting tingling feelings in my feet and my toes. wasn't I'm like, oh my god like she's so right i mean you think about it like like madmen great great great show but is a great character Breaking Bad Breaking Bad sopranos Walter White sopranos like all of these great shows all the even movies like like looking at Little Miss Sunshine all it is a great character you know I mean that's filled with great characters William Wallace in Braveheart Braveheart wouldn't be Braveheart without that character. You know, I

Alex Ferrari 45:31
mean, and I think yeah, Jones, of course, Indiana Jones,

Deepthroat 45:34
Indiana Jones like it, it complete. And that's the, that's the biggest thing that I feel like writers don't understand is that they're trying to write for the spectacle and not for the character, you know what I mean? And he can, he can, I mean, I was about to say structure, because they don't understand structure. And, and, and I think that's one of the most important things to learn, right. But really, when you come down to it, when you approach the premise, or the idea that your structure comes later, right, from simply from an idea standpoint, like, if I don't care about your character, or I don't know what they want, or what they're after, you could have the most structured story in the world, it's not gonna make sense, because I need to know exactly who this character is motivations, right? what their goals are, why they're working towards it, and subconsciously, why do I give a shit? You know what I mean? And that, that, I think, is a lot of what, you know, a lot of these scripts that I cover, don't seem to understand, because I've given the note. I mean, I could probably give this note on every single script that I see coming in from a first time writer, which is decent story, it functions, but like, why do I care? You know, and I'm gonna care when I care about the character when you when you've created a good enough well rounded character. And I mean, that character could exist in a tentpole movie, it can exist in a micro budget $100,000 film, I don't care. That note applies to every single budget and genre that there is if you don't care about the characters if they're not making. So I call it the Cha Cha Cha has of storytelling, right? It's it's a character that is approached with challenges. And then in the end, they change, you know what I mean? It's like those three simple things, the Cha Cha Cha, character challenges changes, if their script isn't built on those three simple things. It's, it's just not I'm not gonna care, you know. And I think crafting a really solid character with clear motivations and a clear flaw that we can both sympathize with and root for that that's when magic starts to happen. structure it any way you want at that point, because at this point, I care about the character, I'll spend 20 pages in their normal world because I'm interested. You know what I mean?

Alex Ferrari 47:47
I mean, look, I mean, I watched I watched the last Indiana Jones film purely because of Indiana Jones. Right? The script was

Deepthroat 47:54
right, and you make these good characters, and it does it creates its own franchise. I mean, like it they call it, what is it the Spielbergian way of crafting a character or introducing a character like he does it so wonderfully? You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. And Paul Thomas Anderson, what am I mean? I want to clarify, it's not that you have to like the main character, no, no, activated by the main character. So like, There will be blood as a great example of that first seven minutes of that movie. Both I mean, the script is a little less, right. And if you look at the final draft of the script, like it's a little it's different than what you see in the movie, but the premise of it is the same, right? This this guy, who is relentless, and unbelievably motivated to get rich, you know what I mean, to the point where he drags himself, leg broken, and all to go turn in the little chunk of silver that he has to start his takeover

Alex Ferrari 48:46
of the world? Basically, yeah.

Deepthroat 48:49
And I didn't like I knew from like, the instant that this guy was on screen, I was like, This guy is a maniac. But I can't take my eyes off of him. You know what I mean? And David Lewis did a great job. But even on the screen, when you are even in the script, when you read it on the page, it's like, this is a such a well crafted character. You know what I mean? And know the summation. I don't want to spoil it or anything to know what that person goes through. You have the script. It's like, you don't have to like him to care about the movie. You know what I mean, and to care about what happens.

Alex Ferrari 49:17
So right, Joe Pesci in Goodfellas. I mean, he's a psychopath. But whether you're like, you cannot take your eyes off of him, or Jack Nicholson and the departed, you just can't take your eyes off.

Deepthroat 49:31
Yep. I mean, and that, and that, to me is like when I enter into a script, like, I get really excited when I read a shitty script with a fantastic character because like, they're miles and miles ahead of somebody who's got a a good script with a bad character. You know what I mean? Yes, yes. Like that. I mean, you can sell, you can sell a bad script with a great character. You can't sell a decent script, a functional script with a bad character. It's just not gonna happen.

Alex Ferrari 49:59
Right now. I just actually just started watching the Americans for the fun if you guys seen that show, have you seen the show?

Deepthroat 50:04
Graham Yost is probably my favorite writer ever him and I really love Taylor shared I'm really into Taylor Sheridan right now but like,

Alex Ferrari 50:11
but this I mean, I just we're literally in season one my wife and I, this is the summer we you know, our shows haven't started yet. And I'm like, This is so well, the characters are are so well crafted you hate you love. They go back and they go for them. Like we're six, seven episodes in. I'm like, There's six seasons of this. I can't wait. Yeah, it's so well done when you put it but it begins with character. It always began with character, at least with this show. And with most of the shows that are great. It's always character. And you're right, you can you if you have a good character with a bad script, you could turn a bad script into a good script with some other work with it. I can work but to create a good character is much, much more difficult.

Deepthroat 50:55
Like, so we just watched justified. Yeah, my wife and I, I'd seen it before she had again, great character, right. Like it's, it's say what you want about the show? I mean, I think it's a great show. But like, if you read Elmore Leonard's short story that it's based off of that is all about character. You know what I mean? That that translated well into the actual show, and obviously, character is more. What do you say? Like it's put on a higher pedestal when you're watching a TV show? Because it's built on characters, right? Like the stories, whatever. It's not supposed to end his stories and television are all about keeping it going. Right? Whereas a film, like let's end it properly, right, right, right. So the reason we keep coming back, especially to like procedural shows, like NCIS, for example, it's like, we keep coming back because we love these Knossos, these Eva's these, you know, like be that we just love these people. And it's like, it's, it's, it's pretty outstanding. And

Alex Ferrari 51:51
yeah, I get you. And no, no, absolutely. Without me character and structure. I think both of those two, those are the two things characteristic first, and then you got to get that structure. You have to you have to have a good, good clothes to put on the character, if you will.

Deepthroat 52:07
Yeah, yeah. And I actually made a mistake earlier, the Americans is not by Graham Yost. But

Alex Ferrari 52:12
no, it is. It is enough for guys to Judge Joe Wiseman. Yes, yes,

Deepthroat 52:15
yes. But but they're very similar. You know what I mean, especially in the way that they currently portray their characters. And I I feel bad that I messed that up.

Alex Ferrari 52:23
But it's, it's all good. It's no one knows who you are. So it's fine.

Deepthroat 52:29
Sorry, Graham. Sorry. Yeah.

Alex Ferrari 52:32
So in general, well, first of all, can you give us any tips? On what get that? What would catch the attention of a script reader? For that low level? I think we kind of touched on it. But is there any specific thing besides having a great character?

Deepthroat 52:47
So I feel like a lot of is just to make the readers job? Easy. You know what I mean? So it's like in in when you're reading a novel, like, you can spend six pages describing the color of the lamp? Yeah, yes, in a script, you just say the lamp is yellow. And if that doesn't matter to the scene that the lamp is yellow, then get it the eff out of there. I mean, it's like, so one of the first things that I'll see on page one, which is like, if it doesn't have to be there, it shouldn't be. And I can tell right away, whether or not the reader or the writer is going to be showing us is going to be showing us the thing, the information rather than telling us you know, and leaving enough room, and acknowledging the fact that this is a collaborative endeavor, you know, what I mean? Like you shouldn't direct the scene you shouldn't have, you know, close up here. Really good scripts, describe those moments in a way that they don't have to sit there and tell you that you're reading a script, a dolly shot in, yeah, like, take that out, you know what I mean? Like, if you can tell right away, so that would be one thing that I would say is like, don't direct the script, don't director writers understand formatting, grammar, spelling, take pride in your work, and then do a good job of making us care about your character in the first three pages, you know what I mean, or at least make it interesting enough, or fascinating enough to where we can't take our eyes off the script. And there's a trick that my manager actually taught me, which is, uh, you know, it's not just about hooking them into the first couple pages, right, if you can hook them to the point where you leave something at the bottom of page nine, that makes them turn to the page, top of page 10, and then leaving something at paid the bottom of page 10, that forces them to turn the page. It's super hard, right? But once you start getting into the final drafts of your script, like it should flow like that, you know what I mean to where it's like, they can't stop turning the page, you know? But it's super, it's, it's very, very difficult to get on that microscopic level. But if you're submitting a script to a production company, you should have thought about those microscopic things. It's very easy to tell when a writer has or hasn't simply, you know, grammar, spelling, formatting, you know what I mean? So make sure that those are the those are the things But right off the bat and if you've got 130 page script like, I hope it comes with a two page treatment or something like that, because they're gonna get too long did not read. Well,

Alex Ferrari 55:10
let's Tarantino's names on it. Sorry, well, unless Tarantino's name is on it.

Deepthroat 55:15
Yeah, exactly. I mean, Jonathan, Nolan's Dark Knight was like, what, like 152 pages or something like that.

Alex Ferrari 55:21
But it's Jonathan Nolan and Chris Allen. And it's okay. And I

Deepthroat 55:25
get that a lot with new writers. And they're like, oh, but so and so did it this way. It's like, Yeah, but so and so made a shitload of money in the last. And so it's like, you're not, you're not so and so

Alex Ferrari 55:37
you're given? Is it fair to say that you're given a lot of leeway in this business? Once you start making a lot of money?

Deepthroat 55:43
Well, 100%, you could do. And that's why I tell I'll tell young writers too. It's like go read scripts, right? And it's like, but I'm going to tell you right now, don't describe characters like they do. Don't format like they do. Don't do that kind of stuff. Because they've earned the right to misspell their character's name. They've earned the right to have formatting errors. You know what I mean? They've earned that right? So you haven't. So you have to play by those rules before you either a are too lazy to break them or to care, or you are established enough to where you can break them and break them. Well, you know, so. Yeah, I mean, that's, that's another thing. It's like. Don't compare yourself to successful writers just yet. Oh, God, I know, I get that all the time. Like, I don't like okay, good lord. I also hate when people use the word we in scripts. I know a lot of people do it, especially professional writers, and especially writer, director types. It's just like, it just reminds you that you're reading a script, you don't say we see this or we see that? Yeah. And at the very basic level, what you're trying to do is you're trying to absorb the reader, especially a reader who doesn't really have a clue about screenwriting, or storytelling. Like you're supposed to absorb them into the story as much as possible. So your imprint on the script should be as minuscule and invisible as possible. And when you start bringing in we, we know you're a real person, we know this is written by somebody. It's not just a story that we're, you know, swimming around. And it's, it's a, it's a script, and I think if you can make like, Brian Delfield does a really good job of making you forget that you're reading a script. Have you have you read any of his

Alex Ferrari 57:18
I have not read any script? Can you tell the audience who he is and what he's done? Yeah,

Deepthroat 57:22
he just had a movie coming out called the babysitter.

Alex Ferrari 57:25
Oh, oh, yeah. The one by MC G. Yeah,

Deepthroat 57:29
yeah, he has a so Brian Duffield. I think somebody told me this. I don't quote me on it. Don't. Don't tell me if it's right or wrong. I don't even really want to know. But I like telling the story that he sold more spec scripts or had more time. He's one of the more successful spec writers over the last like five or 10 years.

Alex Ferrari 57:47
I think so. I think Astra house has that.

Deepthroat 57:50
Yeah. But it's like it's like a you read their script. It's a I you can find it online. Good. I'm in fact, I'm going to do it right now. The babysitter, it's like it's, it's okay, there it is. It's 93 pages. The first line is interior nurse's office day call is 12 years old and losing his mind. That's the first line.

Alex Ferrari 58:15
That's a good symbol.

Deepthroat 58:17
You know what I mean? Yeah. And it's like, you don't have to overthink it. You don't have to over describe it. And I love Brian Duffield writing because he lets the he lets you make the picture in your own head just as if, like, you're I had a I had a writer once told me that what you're writing is actor bait. You know what I mean? And it's so true, right. But it's also director bait. You know what I mean? So if you're over describing your scenes that just takes away from the creative side that a director, the creative imprint that a director can put on to the, to the script, right? So it's like, the less you can tell the more leeway you can give to those other creative elements that are brought on to make to bring your script to life. Like do it. You know what I mean? So like, I think less is always, always, always, always more and it's so difficult to like, get that to come across people because they're like, what does that mean? And it's like, if it doesn't absolutely have to be there. Don't let it be there. And Duffield is so good at it. And he's, he's always properly formatting stuff. And even though he's an established writer, you can tell like, he doesn't shortchange the other like, two pages down. There's another wonderful description. Cole is waiting for the school bus besides Melanie, another 12 year old also his neighbor also definitely not a potential love interest for coal. So whoever told you that is an idiot and a liar and loser and it interrupts the conversation with her dialogue. So it's like, it's like you've seen it happen. You know what I mean? You has a voice? You know what I mean? Like, I don't know, like, I go read Brian Duffield scripts that he's a fantastic writer as well. The guy deserves a lot more credit.

Alex Ferrari 59:51
Now than we asked you also, can we please just put out there in the universe to people stop using 75 cent words in script in screenplays. We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor. And now back to the show. Is that Is that a big is that a big? No, no, they want to prove to you that they have to have a complete grasp of the English language and want to prove to you how smart they are by using words that no one has ever used in conversation.

Deepthroat 1:00:26
You again, it comes back. Yes, short answer your question? Absolutely. It again comes down to knowing who's reading your script, right? If you have to send a 19 year old out to go get a dictionary. You know what I mean? So it's like, Have you ever read the alien script? Yeah, well, I

Alex Ferrari 1:00:44
love that script. Walter. Walter helps amazing interior engine

Deepthroat 1:00:47
room, empty, cavernous. That's it. Like straight up. That's, that's it, like jammed with instruments, all of them idle console chairs for to empty. It's like, Yes, that's what you need to be doing. Like, paint the picture, build it up, there's a

Alex Ferrari 1:01:02
patina of the walls can be smelled and like, you know, do know that that's a book. That's a book.

Deepthroat 1:01:10
Exactly. That's no your medium. You know what I mean? And then like, a lot of writers I see too, especially young writers. And I see a lot of this with writers who, and this always gets me where it right where it's like on the title page, it'll say written by, you know, John Stevens, based on a book by John Stevens. Like, oh, God, this is gonna be rough, because it's Jon, snow literary background, you know, what I mean, a prose writing background? How is that going to translate? And sometimes I've been surprised there have been a couple writers who have surprised me. But for the vast majority, it's like, yikes, you know what I mean? Like, you're basically copying and pasting certain elements of description from your book into the script format. And dialogue editor, like there was one writer who I could tell was copying pasting dialogue directly from like his Microsoft Word document into the final draft document, because a lot of the dialogue like he forgot to delete the quotation marks like parts. So I was like, Oh, this is great. Or it would be like said eagerly.

Alex Ferrari 1:02:10
At the end of the dialogue,

Deepthroat 1:02:12
oh, man alive. Okay. So note that I'll say about that is like, if you can't see it on the screen, it shouldn't be in the script. And there are exceptions to that, especially when like, describing a character for instance, like, I feel like you can do a little bit of editorializing in those moments, to give a bigger shape to like who that person is, you know, or like Shane Black had a really good one where it was like, he's always really good at describing things, right. But he also has a voice and at this point, he was Shane Black. So he wrote something. I can't remember what it was. It was like, it was like, a huge penthouse, the type I'm gonna own with this fucking movie. So

Alex Ferrari 1:02:47
yeah, yes, that is so shameful. Introduce yourself.

Deepthroat 1:02:51
Like if you can, if you can inject yourself into the script in that way. That's different than what we were talking about earlier, which is like, Do you know what I mean? Yeah, I

Alex Ferrari 1:03:00
mean, yeah, there's I have heard of God. I've heard of screenwriters, I've read screenplays that have that kind of stuff. Like they'll put a little note like, and this is for the script reader, and blah, blah, blah, like those. But they're at an established point. They're an established point, and they can play with a medium a little bit, but Shane Black is a perfect example. You read lethal weapon you we kiss me? I was gone. Kiss me. Long Kiss. Goodnight. Yeah. Any of those? I'm dying to see predator, the predator. I can't wait to see that. But he's amazing in the way he writes. You're like, okay, I get it. But he is that kind of writer. You're absolutely right. It's like, the penthouse. Like after I saw the script.

Deepthroat 1:03:40
Yeah, he's got a voice. You know what I mean? He's got a voice that doesn't interfere with the story. In fact, it does the opposite, where it's like, I want to see what else this guy's got to say shit. You know what I mean?

Alex Ferrari 1:03:50
Because if you have the balls, if you have the balls to do that, and again, I wouldn't suggest have no

Deepthroat 1:03:54
time to go out right like Shane, battle black for sure.

Alex Ferrari 1:03:58
It's been done. It's been tried many times before and it's fail. It's like when people try to look after Pulp Fiction came out. Forget everybody was trying to write chapters. Everybody's writing chapters. Everybody was writing chapters. Everybody was trying to be Yeah, that was that was that movie that came out of how to die in Denver. What to do in Denver when you're dead. And there was like a bunch of rip off pulp fiction movies. Right afterwards, Pulp Fiction course.

Deepthroat 1:04:20
There's gonna be a whole bunch of crazy rich Asian movies that are but you can't

Alex Ferrari 1:04:23
write like Tarantino, I always tell people like you can't direct like Fincher, you can direct like Nolan or Kubrick, you could be inspired. Absolutely. But at the end of the day, they're going to do them much better than you could ever do it.

Deepthroat 1:04:37
One of my one of my best friends is a very, very talented writer. And he doesn't write he does write scripts, but he mostly writes prose. published the works, you know what I mean? And he was like, when I first started out writing, he was like, I was trying to I would read a book by somebody that would really impress me. And then I would go and try to write like them and he was like, it took me years to get something published because I was Isn't writing for who I am, or what I want to say I was writing what I thought people wanted to read. And I think that that you know what I mean? It goes back to like, don't don't think that you are submitting, writing that somebody else absolutely wants to read. Like, don't go, don't approach it like that approach. If you're starting from that place, you're already making mistakes, you know what I mean? It's gonna take you a long, long time to figure out that you're making mistakes. And hopefully, like, you have a really stable job at Starbucks, because you're going to need it, you know?

Alex Ferrari 1:05:31
No, and that advice goes exactly for directors as well. Because I mean, I've made those mistakes. I have my Robert Rodriguez Quentin Tarantino film, that I tried to make that look just like theirs and tried to show everybody Oh, hey, look how cool I am. And it didn't work out. Because I wasn't using my own voice. And well, I didn't find I didn't. I didn't know who I was. Yes, yet. And I know that sounds pretentious as fuck. But it's true.

Deepthroat 1:05:55
It doesn't though. It doesn't because it makes so much sense. For those for those of us out there who actually did that, you know, who who tried to write like the people that inspired us only to find out like, like, okay, maybe certain elements of them work for me, but I'm not going to be successful until I find my own. And it Hey, writers out there. It's gonna take you years to figure that out. Do it is to keep writing. And for you directors, the only way to do it is to keep directing the garbage so that you can figure out what you like to do you know what I mean? You can figure out your inner Spielberg, without having Spielberg attached to it. You know what I mean?

Alex Ferrari 1:06:32
I mean, JJ, JJ Abrams, who is is probably close to Spielberg as your path today, but JJ movie is a JJ movie. Yep. No question. I mean, you could smell that you can, even when he did Super Eight,

Deepthroat 1:06:46
was gonna say Super Eight was like, Oh my gosh, it was literally

Alex Ferrari 1:06:50
like if Spielberg was reincarnated. Yeah, but it still had his flavor. Absolutely. It was not a rip off. It was not a rip off at all. So that's why those movies are successful. Now before before we finish because I mean, we could talk for hours, I can say I don't know. Right. And I appreciate your time. I appreciate your time, Deep Throat. Um

Deepthroat 1:07:13
give me some nuggets. You know, you've

Alex Ferrari 1:07:15
dropped a lot of stuff. Honestly, this this podcast, I'm going to recommend anytime I made a screenwriter, I'm like, you're going to need to listen to dethrone screenwriting about the bottom. Yes. No, no, no, it's because you're showing you have given. I mean, a lot of the stuff I knew from being in the business, but you don't talk about it. But I definitely don't have your perspective. Because you're you've walked, you walked in places I haven't walked. So it's fascinating to see the inside story about other things that I didn't have access, I didn't know about. And it's the truth and you are completely liberated to say whatever the hell you want to

Deepthroat 1:07:48
say. I know when you when you told me, we're just gonna do it anonymous, I was like, that completely changes my brochure, I was just so sweet. Because it's like, now I get to actually talk about the stuff that matters. You know what I mean? Like, I get to tell these young writers or even established writers who are kind of hitting like a LOL, you know what I mean? Cuz that happens to happens to me. I think it's super important to just understand and be reminded of what you're up against, you know what I mean? And, and, and knowing that it's a fluid process, you know, what I mean? Like the end. Another thing to keep in mind, too, is like, the turnover at these places is insane. God is insane. So like, you could submit a draft to an assistant who doesn't put it up, but then that assistant could go on to work at another company who then it does work, or the newest system was hired and you can resubmit to that person inside knowledge of like, okay, the turnovers happening, like or, or, you know, what was it like? Legendary, legendary, like, revamp their entire executives, you know what I mean, I had a script in there that they had passed on. And I didn't even get an acknowledgement of the first around. They had the turnover my agents, resubmitted it, and they were like, oh, let's get a meeting. You know what I mean? Like, like, the new regime is willing to meet me but the old regime things on garbage.

Alex Ferrari 1:09:08
It's a lot. It's a lot of so much politicking. And it is and it's just it's a it's a game of, of humor. It's a human game of personalities and psychological psychology. It's, it's so more complex than what people think it is like, Oh, you submitted to a company and oh, it doesn't get in. You don't get in? No, this is a game. It's chess,

Deepthroat 1:09:30
basically. Yep. Yep. And I think there are certain ways and we talked about this already, there are certain ways to go about it that make you seem more genuine. And I think that if you can find if you're more genuine, you're gonna be you're gonna find people that are more genuine, and then you don't have to worry about anything else. You know what I mean? Those doors are gonna be open for you. You can write a script that isn't that great, but like, the genuine nature of that relationship is going to leave that door open. You know what I mean? And that's what I feel like a lot of writers are gonna be surprised I think to hear because Because I think even when I was coming up, I was told by people that it's like you have one shot with these people. And while there's a lot of truth to that, there's also the truth. It's like, yes, with the people that you don't know, you know what I mean. But a lot of what you need to do when you come out here, and you should come out here is, like, just go out and meet people and be genuine. Like, be yourself. Don't be Oh, I'm the aspiring writer and, like, tell myself that, like, I'm the writer, that's gonna be the next big thing. It's like, No, dude, go talk to somebody about your fantasy football team. That's what's gonna get you in the door.

Alex Ferrari 1:10:32
You know what the funny thing is, though, when you say that, you have to remember that it is so difficult to be yourself at every stage of growth in your life. That's true. And only because you know, both you and I are in similar vintages. As far as age is concerned. We take it for granted now because I don't I am who I am. And if you don't like it, go off yourself. I just don't care. Yeah. But it took 20 years to get to this place in my life.

Deepthroat 1:11:04
And a lot of it was the last What 1015.

Alex Ferrari 1:11:09
I want to say the last go through all

Deepthroat 1:11:10
of that to figure out that, okay, this is how it's done, you know, and then business I am.

Alex Ferrari 1:11:15
And then the second I decided to finally just be myself. All the doors swung open. Yep, everything's clicking, everything starts clicking the second you are yourself, and you're comfortable within your own skin, which is has less to do with the craft of screenwriting, and more about your own personal development, but it is part of the equation.

Deepthroat 1:11:33
Yep. Yeah. And it's funny that you say that because one of my best friends successful writer, really, I mean, dude, this kid got talent out the ass, right? Like he's such a talented writer has, has like a stack of scripts that I think anybody would love to buy. Right? But he can't sell them for the life of him because he is not personable. Oh, yeah. Like, he's great at making these characters personal. But you put him into a pitch room and done, the guy just shuts down. Like, he's like, the most dry person to like, I mean, if you could, if you could, like, split a bottle of whiskey over a pitch meeting, like he would be good to go, you know what I mean? But like, I feel so bad for him. Because like, honestly, he's brought me into his pitch meetings being like, Dude, I will put your name on the script, if you helped me pitch it. I mean, it's just like, a lot of it has to do with like, putting yourself out there and confidence level. And like, those are all things that like are ancillary. You know what I mean? Writing, it's all you're all safe and sound when you're in your dark room, and you're typing in the glow of your computer and everything. Like that's all great, right? But the true reality is, is that this is a human business. It's and you have to make human connections with people and and you can't be a robot trying to sell your script. And and realize, too, that when you go out and meet these people at the bars, they're used to people being like, oh, this person only wants to talk to me, because they know I can help them get something. Right, right. Now,

Alex Ferrari 1:13:08
we could talk for hours about this for hours.

Deepthroat 1:13:11
No. Question.

Alex Ferrari 1:13:15
No, I do have I have one more question because we were talking about this before we started recording. And I said, don't stop, stop. I want I want to put this in. You have done rewrites on some major studio tentpole things that and I want you just to give a little bit of a glimpse behind the scenes of those studio movies, those writers that first draft that final draft conversation?

Deepthroat 1:13:39
Sure, sure. So a lot. And you'll see this a lot when you work in development, right? Where it's like, we'll have acquired the script. It's from a talented writer, you get the first draft of it. It's absolute trash. You know what I mean? And I think

Alex Ferrari 1:13:54
they buy it, but why do they buy it? Is it because of the concept? Yeah, they,

Deepthroat 1:13:57
I mean, sometimes it's open assignment, right? So it's like the production company itself will be like, we want a movie that is about a guy that finds a girl in the trunk of his rental car. And that's the premise of the movie. That's all we've got come and pitch us on your take on that, right? And then it'll bring in like four or five writers and one of them will be hired to write the script because they came in and they did a good pitch, you know what I mean? Like, that's, that's one way. And then they go out and they rush through the draft because they have a deadline of like three weeks. And I guarantee you they didn't start it until four days before because that's what we do, you know? And then it's like, then the then who reads the first draft? It's like, first, it's the development assistant. Let's get your take on it. How's the story function? We've trained you to do this, we understand that you have good notes like you read a first while I read it. And if you have a really cool boss, like we'll compare, you know what I mean? The other the other side of the coin is like, Okay, we've hired this writer or we bought the script, hoping that this guy would like or this girl will be able to rewrite it. You know, we paid them for a rewrite, you know, but realize that the WJ They standards have certain fees for rewriting and in a contract, you're guaranteed certain aspects. And the reality is if like, if you don't deliver in that amount of time, they own the property so they can go out and they are they have an option to the property so they can go out hire their own writers to rewrite your stuff for the WJ standard, if that writer then changes more than 50% of the script or something like that. And I don't know the rules, I'm sure there's probably somebody out there. That's like, that's not entirely true,

Alex Ferrari 1:15:26
yes. But the concept was

Deepthroat 1:15:29
significant changes to the actual piece of property that was optioned or acquired, then your name gets put on is like, uh, you know, whatever. And most of my rewrites have been about like, you know, restructuring story or punching up jokes, or something like that, right? Where it's like, I'll do a past that purely Comedy Based where it's like, okay, we've got the story now. But we're struggling to find the areas of comedy, like, we need to bring in somebody who's not as close to us to see where those opportunities lie, you know, so that's when they bring in sort of an outside resource, like myself, or like many, many other people out there who make a living off of rewriting as opposed to selling their own stuff, sometimes in the lols. Right. So it's like you go in, and you'll punch up like a good bit of the jokes, or maybe like, change the perspective of one character's voice, and it ends up working out. And then it goes to script and you get to know your girlfriend or your wife and be like, hey, that one was mine. Look, everybody's laughing at it. And you know, and it's super fun. And you get to, you know, you get to buy, you get to, you know, make your car payments for a little while and buy a nice steak dinner. And that's about it. I mean, it's like, if you're Aaron Sorkin, you're brought on to do a dialogue punch up and you make half a million dollars. I'm not Aaron Sorkin, so I don't get that kind of, right. But at the same time, it's like, you see a wide variety of quality, a wide quality of scripts, right. So like, if you're brought in to rewrite a second draft, that the writer, you know, was hired to write their idea didn't pan out, they've got two cracks at it. And now this is this is you're bringing on somebody else? You know, I mean, like, sometimes those scripts are, are painful to read. A lot of it, I think, is because and I and I think I speak for a lot of writers that get to the level of where they're being called into these meetings, it's like, or pitching for open assignments. It's like, a lot of writers actually hate the physical act of writing. You know what I mean? Like, oh, it's a burden to tell stories, they love to craft characters, but like to sit down and actually do the work is like excruciating. Sometimes, you know what I mean? Especially when it's somebody else's idea and not your own, you have to sometimes find the passion. And it happens a lot on TV shows a lot on TV shows, because you're all hired drag, something that somebody else created. And especially if it's an early season, it's like you're trying to figure out what the show is, in, people bring in stuff that, you know, they're given a week, right? Like, you go off the script, and you come back, and it's like, one week later, and it's like, now we have to spend the next month punching the script up as a group, you know what I mean? Like, that's kind of how it works. And to the level of quality that you see from like, these professional writers with big names, submit these drafts. And when you're brought in as a rewriter, do it, the quality is variable, sometimes it's a really great script. And you're like, God, I can't believe that they weren't, that they weren't on board with this, like this is a great take. But again, you got to think about their mandate, where they're going, where they want to go, what they expect to see who maybe they have somebody attached, who doesn't like it, you know what I mean? There are a lot of auxilary issues that could be there. Whereas if you're just brought on to the scripting phase, with no attachments, and this is just an open assignment that they wanted, and you come in, and it's like, you can tell that this writer put together a pitch like 48 hours before they got the meaning. And it's like, okay, this, you can tell that in the script, because they didn't really have, they may have had the hour long pitch thought out, but they didn't have the, the actual story fleshed out and given like, you know, two or three months, or six months, or 40 days, whatever it was, to write the script, you can tell that it's suffered, you know what I mean? Because it's even hard for us professional writers to go in and be like, Okay, I completely understand what this is, like, it's a process for us to, you know, and I think that, again, a lot of these young writers probably don't understand that that's the case. They're like, Oh, I'm gonna sell my script to this production company, and it's gonna go straight to principal photography, and it's gonna go straight to theaters, it's gonna have my name on it, it's gonna be exactly how I did it. And you have to be out of your mind, if you think that's going to be exactly how it works. Like you're going to sell the script you make, if you're lucky, get a crack at the rewrite. If not, they're gonna bring in somebody who isn't Aaron Sorkin or is an XYZ, you know, that they can afford and that fits with the genre or whatever. They're gonna do the punch ups. If they rewrite more than you, they're gonna be the ones that get the credit, you may be lucky enough to get a producer credit or a story by if it's in your contract. If you had a good manager, agent, whatever, right? And then at the end of the day, you may go to the theater to watch the movie that you set out to write and it'd be completely different than Your pitch that actually got you the job in the first place. That's how it works. It's like, it's like when you make a product for it's like Apple updates, like you get a new Apple update every three days. You know what I mean? Like their Apple updating scripts every three days, you know what I mean? Right. And I think that as rewriters, as writers in general, like, understanding that that's the name of the game is critical. I've seen, I've seen some

I've seen, let's say that I've seen some scripts that will never ever see the light of day because they were good. And I've seen really bad scripts get made because of those auxilary factors. You know,

Alex Ferrari 1:20:38
a man actually gets actual wants to do it. That's yeah,

Deepthroat 1:20:40
yep. Yep. Whether or not the original writer who pitched it is good. You know, and a lot of it's done in house, if you get hired by a management slash production company. They have a team of writers and a team of directors and a team of actors, like they have all of that stuff in house, so they can go in and package it and then sell it. You know what I mean? Right, as a package, which is a lot of how movies get sold these days, you know, at the big

Alex Ferrari 1:21:02
book studio stuff. Yeah, without question. Yeah. And

Deepthroat 1:21:05
it's like, if you if you have a shitty draft, that Matt Damon is like, Yeah, I'll do that movie. That sounds like a cool movie. I'll do it. Like when we read the script, and you get like an attachment letter. And there's a big PR release. And like, it's a variety and all this stuff. Matt Damon signs on to blah, blah, blah. That movie could never get made. Sure. But it's going to end up in the trades because they want to generate buzz and they want to keep the momentum flowing. But honestly, it all it all comes back to is the script going to function? Is the script going to be good? Is this going to be ready? You can have all the elements attached in the world. And even then, Guillermo del Toro will tell you, it's not doesn't mean it's going to hurt Terry Gilliam, I mean, is going to be like, Okay, I've had what does it Donquixote now, in terms for 25 years, you know what I mean? Yeah. And, you know, it just,

Alex Ferrari 1:21:53
it's exactly what happens. Alright, man, you've been so frickin amazing. Deep Throat. That is deep throat that you've dropped some major bombs on knowledge bombs on on the on the Dr. Mensa. Thank you so much. I have a few questions. I asked all of my guests. So that's kind of rapid fire. What advice would you give a screenwriter wanting to break into the business today? Cross your fingers. It's very uplifting. Extremely uplifting, sir. Thank you. Um, can you tell me what book had the biggest impact on your life or career? Harry Potter. Okay. What is the lesson that took you the longest to learn whether in the film industry or in life?

Deepthroat 1:22:44
Mmm, that's a great question. I would say being genuine and and owning who I am as opposed to what I think other people want me to be.

Alex Ferrari 1:22:56
That's a great lesson to learn.

Deepthroat 1:22:58
It's applies to both business and life, man.

Alex Ferrari 1:23:01
Absolutely. Now, what are three of your favorite films of all time?

Deepthroat 1:23:05
Three of my favorite films of all time. Okay, off the top of my head, I would say Braveheart. Okay, excellent film. A movie network.

Alex Ferrari 1:23:16
Another amazing both very well written. Uh huh. You know,

Deepthroat 1:23:19
and, and a Lord of War. I love Lord of War. Really? You like what do I know if I wanted to throw you a curveball? Something that like maybe wasn't, you know, really, Lord. But I love that movie. I mean, say what you want about the story and the writing and my wife hates the ending. Like, I love that movie so much. I love how it starts. I love how finishes I love the character I like can't take my eyes off of him. I love the midpoint reversal and best

Alex Ferrari 1:23:47
part of that movie. That stuff. For me the best part of that movie was the opening title sequence.

Deepthroat 1:23:52
I mean, that's an opening title sequence. It's so good. And it's like, I for those I'm not gonna ruin anything for those who haven't seen the spoiler alerts here, right? Because go out and watch it I think is awesome. And say what you want about the writing and say what you want about the characters like that movie kept me entertained. I cared about whether or not and I love like movies where it's like there's an antihero. You know what I mean? Like I grew I'm rooting for the guy who's the bad guy. You know what I mean? I love that. And that was like one of the first times where and I could have set the matrix I could have set Jurassic Park and I mean the last in my real life in my in my life. first movie I ever saw was Land Before Time. Genius film. My mom took me it was the first movie I ever saw in the theater. And I was like, blown away. I was like, oh my god, movies are great. I've been obsessed ever since. And yeah, Harry Potter was what convinced me that I wanted to write matrix changed my entire perspective of the world and of filmmaking and but my favorite movies are Braveheart network and board of war because I wanted to put something in that you probably haven't heard before.

Alex Ferrari 1:24:54
That's never been on the show on any of my pockets. Ever been on the show. So you,

Deepthroat 1:24:59
like at this point? They're probably like, I wasted an hour and a half listen to this dude and his favorite movies Lord of War.

Alex Ferrari 1:25:05
This guy knows nothing. But then again, because we don't know who you are, it doesn't matter. So you can be free. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe you did you don't know.

Deepthroat 1:25:16
But I definitely, it was Andrew nickel, I think

Alex Ferrari 1:25:18
yes, it was it was now the, the this is the part of the show where I generally ask where we can find you. But you will now go back into the into the darkness of the parking, the parking,

Deepthroat 1:25:30
maybe, maybe in a future episode, you can drop my name as being like, Oh, if you guys are looking for somebody who can help you develop your script, you know, check this guy out, and we just never know who it was.

Alex Ferrari 1:25:41
Maybe we could do something like that if you like. But now you're gonna go back into the shadows of the parking garage, sir.

Unknown Speaker 1:25:48
Thank you. Thank you.

Alex Ferrari 1:25:49
Thank you, man so much for being so candid. And and really, I think I think we helped hopefully helped a lot of people listening because there was some great, great practical industry advice in this without question. And you didn't expose yourself too much, sir.

Deepthroat 1:26:04
No, I mean, we only had to, we had to edit out one part. So just one

Alex Ferrari 1:26:07
part. That's it. Thanks again, man. Little seed

Deepthroat 1:26:11
there for the people listening to be like, Oh, I wonder what that was.

Alex Ferrari 1:26:15
Exactly. Thank you. Thank you for your time.

Deepthroat 1:26:18
I appreciate it. Thanks for having me.

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Ultimate Guide To Michael Mann And His Directing Techniques

THE JERICHO MILE (1979)

Having lived in Los Angeles for over a decade now, I’ve had my fair share of run-ins with famous filmmakers.  I once saw Ridley Scott marching down the New York backlot set at Warner Bros, cigar lodged firmly between gritted teeth as he barked orders at his entourage of assistants and aides.

I caught Quentin Tarantino taking the stage to promote INGLORIOUS BASTERDS (2009) at Amoeba Records in Hollywood.  I shook an indifferent Nicolas Winding Refn’s hand during the wrap party for his 2016 film THE NEON DEMON.

During a brief footage review session at one of my old jobs, I gave Michel Gondry something of a minor existential crisis when my inability to quickly decipher his heavy French accent appeared to cause doubts about his own abilities.

Only a few weeks ago, I found Denis Villeneuve shopping at the Burbank Whole Foods. Exciting as any one of these encounters may have been, none of them compares to the time I saw director Michael Mann in person.

Mann — and his 1995 crime opus HEAT — has long been one of my personal favorites, so when it was announced that he would be present for a Q&A at a 20th anniversary screening of the film in a brand new 4K restoration, there was no way I was going to miss it (I wasn’t the only one who felt this way, judging by the snaking line that went on for several city blocks).

I thought myself rather lucky to score a seat as close to the stage as I did, but it wasn’t until the house lights dimmed that I realized the extent of my good fortune: maybe a mere half-row away, there sat The Man(n) himself. I don’t actually remember my first impressions of seeing the new 4K version of HEAT projected onto the big screen, because I was too busy watching Mann watch his own film.

And he was watching, rather intently; as if he was still searching out any lingering imperfections that needed correction.  Mixed in with a crowd of his adoring fans, he appeared almost anonymous, his lips curled up into the faintest of smiles as his crowning achievement unspooled to cascading waves of clapping and cheers.

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Though the increasingly-cold reception of his recent work suggests that his best days may lay behind him, Mann has nonetheless left an inestimable impact on American cinema as well as television.  He’s best known for moody and violent crime dramas like HEAT, THIEF (1981), MANHUNTER (1986) or COLLATERAL (2004), but his sensibilities are versatile; his taste impeccable.

He’s just at home depicting the surgical procedures of a heist as he is fusing high romance with the historical epic (1992’s THE LAST OF THE MOHICANS), or spinning a gripping political whistleblower drama (1999’s THE INSIDER).

An entire generation of filmmakers have grown up under his influence, basking in a relatively compact — yet profoundly resonant — filmography that critic Matt Zoller Seitz, in his excellent video essay series on Mann, describes as “Zen Pulp”.

This influence has spread into television, beginning with a phenomenon of a TV show called MIAMI VICE that would come to define nothing less than the 1980’s itself.  Mann’s continued involvement with the small screen throughout his career paved the way for today’s climate of world-class filmmakers working in the medium, helping to eliminate the deeply-entrenched stigma of television as a lesser, entirely-disposable art form.

To investigate the contours of Mann’s career is to make a case for the effectiveness of filmmaking as not just an act of expression, but as an act of discipline, meditation, and reflection that finds poetry in the hard lines that shape our urban landscapes.

Mann’s own story begins in Chicago, a defining setting within his work.  Born February 5, 1943, Mann’s formative years were spent living in a blue collar neighborhood that doubtlessly shaped his artistic predilection for hard men with weathered faces and a strong work ethic.  His upbringing in the Midwest eventually led him to the University of Wisconsin at Madison, where he studied English Literature.

Thinking it would be an easy way to pad out his credits, Mann decided to enroll in an elective film history course, where he unexpectedly found his very being moved by movies like Stanley Kubrick’s DR. STRANGELOVE: OR HOW I LEARNED TO STOP WORRYING AND LOVE THE BOMB (1964), and GW Pabst’s JOYLESS STREET (1925)— the latter of which sent Mann away from the screening and into the night, having finally discovered that his life’s calling beckoned from the cinema.

The dawn of the 1965-1966 school year would find Mann at the London International Film School, where he stood to receive the kind of technical, hands-on training that he believed American film schools sorely lacked.

These earliest forays into filmmaking would evidence Mann’s natural talents, although they remain frustratingly elusive today; if they weren’t lost to mishaps, such as an 8mm short titled DEAD BIRDS that he misplaced in a move, then Mann has blocked their circulation outright.

This is the case with his two most formative shorts, JAUNPURI (1970) and 17 DAYS DOWN THE LINE (1971).  Both were completed after his graduation, and established his profile as an up-and-coming filmmaker to watch.

The events leading up to JAUNPURI’s creation would evidence some of Mann’s signature traits, such as his dogged commitment to authenticity and a journalist’s ability to sniff out the universal truths in the passion plays between individuals and organizations.

Mann’s founding of his own production company after film school, Michael Mann Productions, was an act born not of creative expression, but of political urgency— with his studies complete, his visa wouldn’t be renewed and he’d likely face deportation back to America, where he faced either mandatory military service in Vietnam or a prison sentence as a draft dodger.

Knowing that operating his own business was sufficient grounds for a visa extension, the enterprising young director took his last few pounds and registered his company. He put his extension to good use, securing a job at the London offices of Twentieth Century Fox, where he supplemented his technical education with the equally necessary administrative aspects of physical production— budgets, breakdowns, etc.

In 1968, he talked NBC into sponsoring a trip down to Paris to document the May/June protests, where he was able to successfully persuade the rebel leaders to speak on television after the network failed to gain any traction themselves.

Mann channeled the momentum of this early success into the making of JAUNPURI, which subsequently won the jury prize at the Cannes Film Festival.  After spending six years in Europe, the 28 year-old Mann returned to the United States and embarked on a 17-day road trip with Newsweek’s Marv Kupfer.

Their aim was to conduct filmed interviews with an assortment of workers from a variety of professions in the hopes of conveying the “philosophical hearts” of American men.  The result was the 1971 short 17 DAYS DOWN THE LINE, a documentary wherein the interviewees are identified only by their occupation and not their names.

This artistic decision — a product of Mann’s fundamental belief that what people do is more important than what they say — would firmly establish a major trope evident throughout his work: characters whose core identities derive from their chosen profession and have subsequently constructed a rigid, near-monastic code of conduct for themselves.

The real-life prototypes of iconic Mann characters like HEAT’s Neil McCauley & Vincent Hanna or THIEF’s Frank are manifest here, their complex humanity distilled into an essence representative of a broader whole while abstractifying their individual experience and perspectives into the realm of philosophical and spiritual ideas.

17 DAYS DOWN THE LINE is further notable for its inclusion of music by Leo Kottke, a guitarist renowned for his contributions to jazz and blues — his musical presence establishing the foundation for Mann’s distinct artirist taste for eclectic blues, jazz and rock throughout his work.

While JAUNPURI and 17 DAYS DOWN THE LINE stand among Mann’s most high-profile (if severely under-seen) early work, his breakout as a professional director would come as a result of the strides he made in television.

After returning home, he sought out a mentor in the guise of Robert Lewin, then working as a head writer for the new TV series STARSKY & HUTCH.  Lewin invited Mann to write an episode, and while the pilot had already been shot, the strength of his writing on the episode (titled “Texas Longhorn”) compelled the network to actually debut the series with his episode.

Mann capitalized on his newfound momentum in the writer’s room as a means to open doors to a directing career, subsequently embarking on a handful of writing and development efforts intended for the small screen.  He wrote episodes for crime procedurals like POLICE STORY and POLICE WOMAN, and even created his own show in 1978 called VEGA$ (which he quickly disowned).

During this time, Mann was commissioned by producer Tim Zinnemann and celebrated actor Dustin Hoffman to adapt the Edward Bunker novel “No Beast So Fierce”.  While Mann ultimately received no credit on the project (which eventually aired as a television movie called STRAIGHT TIME), the three months he spent at California’s notorious Folsom State Prison conducting research didn’t go to waste.

He was able to employ the copious notes, interview transcripts, and photographs he took in service of a Movie of the Week for ABC that would come to be known as THE JERICHO MILE— a rough and tumble portrait of a convict with a talent for running who is offered a shot at moral redemption (if not liberation) by competing in the Olympics.

The project had come to his attention after an initial Movie of the Week directing attempt, SWAN SONG, had gone south, and as a consolation prize of sorts, he received an invitation to comb through the network’s archives of unproduced material.

In THE JERICHO MILE, initially written by Patrick J. Nolan, Mann saw the opportunity to inject the clean-cut morality of the MOW format with a dose of the gritty, real-life drama he experienced behind the walls of Folsom.

With Zinnemann aboard as his producer, Mann commenced work on his first feature-length project, armed with a budget of $1.1 million and a mission to shoot inside the actual facilities at Folsom over the course of 21 days.

THE JERICHO MILE is notorious for the fact that it boasts the performances of actual convicts, who populate the background as extras in addition to contributing to bit speaking roles— a product of Mann’s skillful negotiation of a truce between the prison’s three major ethnic gangs, whereby every participant received payment at the Actor’s Guild scale.

Of course, a risk-averse network wouldn’t allow an unproven director like Mann to cast his film entirely with convicts, but Mann nevertheless would find convincingly-tough professional actors to fill out key roles.  The largest of these finds Peter Strauss as the protagonist, Larry “Rain” Murphy, a stoic and stubborn man serving a life sentence for murdering his abusive father.

In prototypical Mann fashion, Rain’s identity is completely wrapped up in his state of incarceration— he is first and foremost a prisoner, serving hard time for a crime he would absolutely commit again if given the chance because he views it as a righteous act done for the greater good of his family.

In owning up to his act, he also owns up to its consequences; his morality may be relative, but at least it has clarity. Indeed, THE JERICHO MILE establishes the unique code of honor among thieves that forms the foundation of the classical Mann Protagonist.

The central characters of Mann’s filmography are almost-exclusively men, but cries of “sexism” have so far managed to elude him because his work — like that of Martin Scorsese’s — is fundamentally about masculinity: its passions, its poisons, the layered conflict dynamics and stoic principles that drive brutish behavior (if not outright bloodshed).

Rain is a man set apart from his environment, almost completely detached from the well-oiled jailhouse ecosystem that churns around him. Save for interactions with his next-cell neighbor RC Stiles (played by an enthusiastic if overwrought Richard Lawson) and the conniving, jive-talking leader of the white supremacists (a scene-chewing Brian Dennehy), Rain keeps almost entirely to himself— as he likes to tell the prison bureaucracy, he belongs here and is concerned with doing only his time “and no one else’s’”.

His cell is undecorated and spartan, reduced to the barest of essentials (not unlike Neil McCauley’s spartan beachside condo in HEAT).  He lives his life unaffiliated — free of the distracting prison politics that govern the various ethnic gangs — all the better to maintain a singular focus on running.

With a discipline that borders on religious devotion, Rain sprints laps around the yard’s track on a daily, sometimes hourly, basis. Soon enough, he catches the attention of a coach who invites him to train for an Olympic bid.

The initially-reluctant Rain allows himself the luxury of ambition and begins training with an eye towards a key qualifying trial, necessitating the building of a new Olympic-grade track inside the prison so as to accommodate his physical inability to leave the facility.

Facing the distinct challenge of making an unapologetic murderer admirable — heroic, even — Mann turns Rain’s bid into a bigger story of one man’s defiance against the system (and the casual cruelty of civilized society), inspiring a fractured community of convicts to come together for something bigger than themselves.

As Mann’s career has unfolded, he’s cultivated a reputation as a stylist concerned with aesthetic over substance.  Mann’s style — slick, dexterous, moody — is most definitely conspicuous, but it’s misguided to suggest that oceans of subtext aren’t churning underneath the mise-en-scene.

Indeed, Mann reportedly hates the word “style”, and refuses to talk about his influences or compare himself to other directors. Author F.X. Feeney offers a description more suitable to Mann’s intent, calling him a “synthesist”: an artist who “immerses himself so thoroughly in his subject, throwing away whatever rings false, breaking truth down to its working parts”.

This conceit can certainly be applied to THE JERICHO MILE, a debut that finds Mann injecting significant aesthetic consideration into a TV movie format that conventionally holds little use for it.  Like Feeney suggests, Mann and cinematographer Rexford Metz strip the 1.33:1 35mm film image of pretense, opting for clean, unfussy compositions and a functional approach to coverage that pack the maximum amount of narrative and thematic detail into each frame.

When the camera isn’t locked-off for a static composition, Mann and Rexford utilize considered dolly movements and zoom lenses that imply the director’s preference for visual precision. His experience in documentary realism is brought to bear in the film’s opening credits, which (in addition to indulging in Mann’s affection for graffiti and street art) deploys a long lens to observe the wider scope of inmate activity on the yard before finding Rain, wordlessly establishing his place within the prison’s social ecosystem.

What little flourish Mann does allow comes in the form of slow-motion shots reserved for the running sequences, allowing the audience to witness every ripple of Rain’s ultra-lean muscles with an almost-anthropological gaze while also suggesting that the act of sprinting brings a kind of mental liberation for Rain— as if he might be a majestic bird soaring high above it all, if only for a mile at a time.

Art Director Stephen Myles Berger complements Rexford’s utilitarian photography with a spare color palette that deals in stone tones that reinforce the high concrete walls surrounding the facility, while bursts of primary reds and blues echo the gangland politics and divisions that govern the inmates’ lives.

Beyond establishing Mann’s signature cold color palette and his unique brand of warrior-monk protagonists, THE JERICHO MILE transcends its disposable Movie-Of-The-Week roots due to its director’s all-consuming pursuit of authenticity and relentless approach to research.

The time he spent inside Folsom conducting research for his previous failed project supplied Mann with a treasure trove of material to draw from, all of which builds to a keenly-observed portrait of contemporary incarceration that the vast majority of prison narratives ignore in favor of more-salacious brutality like makeshift weapons and “dropped soap” episodes.

THE JERICHO MILE’s key achievement in this regard is Mann’s depiction of Folsom’s distinct ecosystem— a veritable self-sustaining city that exists within its walls.  Cut off from the world they once knew, the inmates must build their own world, and have done so with remarkable detail: they have their own distinct social castes, yes, but they also have their own language & slang, their own trading economy, infrastructure, and industry.

They even have their own newspaper. Characters seem to come and go from their cells as they please, having achieved an uneasy, powder-keg peace with the guards and administration officials who allow this insulated world to continue unchecked in the name of rehabilitation.

Mann continually carves further detail into this surprisingly-complex ecosystem so as to emphasize just how far removed Rain has chosen to place himself from it— and subsequently, how his defiance of authority can rally a divided populace against the system designed to contain them.

Indeed, in an environment where affiliation can mean the difference between life and death, the man who stands alone might just be the most dangerous force of all.  In the end, the TV movie format would prove unable to contain Mann’s larger theatrical ambitions.

Case in point: a rock-flavored score that bears more than just a passing resemblance to The Rolling Stones’ “Sympathy For The Devil” is symptomatic of a general refusal to let budget constraints diminish his canvas.  Mann’s work evidently felt “theatrical” enough to warrant a release in European cinemas— a not-entirely surprising development considering the continent’s reputation for artistic hospitality.

This is not to say THE JERICHO MILE wasn’t appreciated domestically: it would go on to win two Emmys for Best Actor and Best Screenplay, as well as an award for Best Direction Of A Feature Made For TV from the Director’s Guild of America.

While Mann’s moody visual style wasn’t yet present, THE JERICHO MILE would nonetheless establish him as a filmmaker on the rise, imbued with a clarity of vision, an understated confidence, and an eye for evocative detail.

One could make a strong argument that THE JERICHO MILE’s exhibition on television has been more effective for Mann’s long-term career success than a conventional theatrical debut.  Unbeholden to the industry pressures of box office performance and requiring very little effort on the part of audiences to actually watch it, the artistry of Mann’s emerging voice could be appreciated on its own merits— and on a much wider scale.

The success of THE JERICHO MILE would reportedly attract over two dozen job offers, but Mann’s aforementioned clarity of vision was already dictating what his next step would be: like his stubborn but principled convict protagonist, Mann was a man set apart… beholden to no one’s interest but his own.

He turned down every offer that came in to focus on blazing his own trail. In the process, he would forge a bold new future— not just for himself, but also for the very art of the moving image itself.


Author Cameron Beyl is the creator of The Directors Series and an award-winning filmmaker of narrative features, shorts, and music videos.  His work has screened at numerous film festivals and museums, in addition to being featured on tastemaking online media platforms like Vice Creators Project, Slate, Popular Mechanics and Indiewire. To see more of Cameron’s work – go to directorsseries.net.

THE DIRECTORS SERIES is an educational collection of video and text essays by filmmaker Cameron Beyl exploring the works of contemporary and classic film directors. ——>Watch the Directors Series Here <———

 

What is Deus Ex Machina? (Definition and Examples)

Deus Ex Machina

Deus ex machina (Latin for “god from the machine” or “god out of the machine”) is a literary device in which a character, usually a god or goddess, intervenes in an action to resolve a problem. It is often used by authors to resolve plot problems and can be seen as a solution to the problem without considering all the implications.

Deus ex machina is a term used in drama, comedy and other fictional works to describe a plot device that is introduced at the last minute to explain or resolve a problem. What is it good for? The term can be used in many different ways, depending on the context and genre.

The term itself was coined by Horace Walpole to describe the use of a stage effect in The Castle of Otranto, which he wrote in 1764 and 1765. In this story, the hero finds himself in a castle surrounded by enemies, and he is saved from his predicament by the arrival of a mysterious man with a magic wand.

It was used to describe the use of a sudden and unexpected solution to a problem, as opposed to one that was expected but not seen coming. In this article we’ll look at some of the more common uses of deus ex machina in fiction.

The term may have originated from the Greek mythology of Zeus. When the gods were going to decide whether to give man free will, Zeus was challenged by Athena to make a test. If he would be able to make someone do something they did not want to do, he would be declared the winner and given free will.

Why is Deus Ex Machina bad?

Deus Ex Machina is a term used in literature to refer to the use of a “god-like” character who acts in a way that makes a problem or conflict seem insoluble, and thus forces the story into an unsatisfactory resolution. It can also be used to describe the character who has no explanation for their actions other than to say “I’m a god”.

This can be a trope used by authors who do not want to write a book that would otherwise have a happy ending. A common technique is to make the main character believe something which is later proven to be false, and then having the character struggle with the consequences of believing that lie.

In his first novel, The Time Machine, H.G. Wells introduces the protagonist, Professor Robert Morley, as an ordinary man who just happens to have been born with the ability to travel through time.

Throughout the book, Morley struggles with the paradoxes and moral implications of this ability, until he decides to use it to save the world from an impending nuclear holocaust. The novel ends with a twist in which Morley’s actions have caused the nuclear war, but the time machine has somehow transported him and his friends back to the time period before the war began.

In the novel The Time Traveller’s Wife, H.G. Wells introduces his protagonist, H.G. Wells, as an ordinary man whose wife has died and who, at the age of thirty-six, is living with a much younger woman whom he does not love.

Why is it called Deus Ex Machina?

It comes from a Greek myth about a god who was wounded by a bolt of lightning. Zeus, the king of the gods, was in a hurry to heal him and asked his son Hermes to bring him a wooden horse that would fly, so he could be carried to a place where the god could receive medical attention.

The story goes that after finding the horse, Hermes took it to the place where the god had been wounded and asked him what he wanted to do with it. The god replied that he needed it to transport him to the temple of Asclepius (the god of healing). Hermes was horrified and asked the god what he meant by this.

The god said that he was going to go to the temple to be healed of his wound. Hermes hurried to the temple and was able to get there just in time to see Death remove the final bandage from the wound. As the bandage came off, life returned to the god’s body.

He then said that he was going to use the horse to take himself to the temple, and so Hermes built a wooden horse, which was named “deus ex machina”.

When Deus Ex Machina works

The exceptions to the rule are everywhere, and nothing’s completely black and white. There are some instances where deus ex machina completely change the outcome of a story and don’t just make us care but it’s why we keep coming back for more. This usually happens when the twist makes sense within the world and context of the story.

Everyone who watches James Bond movies gets excited every time 007 finds himself in a seemingly desperate, inescapable situation. They just sit on the edge of their seat and wonder which handy gadget James Bond will pull from his sleeve.

Another brilliant use of Deus Ex Machina is in Christopher Nolan’s Inception. The premise of the movie is that when you dream, you only dream. When you dream of an action in your dreams, it will be that action when you are awake.

Then the film takes this concept and turns it upside down, so that you think your dreams have come true, but when you wake up, you find you’ve been tricked into believing that everything in your dreams was real, even though it was all just a dream.

This movie works because of its narrative surprise. Audiences have bought into the premise from the very beginning. They didn’t question why or how the machine was so effective. Instead, they trusted the machine.

If you feel like your world is crazy enough that a Deus ex Machina would actually add something to the script, then maybe it’s time to give it a try. But you never want to rely on a deus ex machina or have the story fall apart because you can’t think of anything better. To use a deus ex machina effectively, it should be a choice, and it must work within the world of your story. In general, a deus ex machina should be used sparingly.

It doesn’t have to be the biggest or most outrageous plot device to work, and it often serves as the best way to introduce a character, particularly if the character doesn’t show up again until later in the film.

Top 101 Filmmaking Quotes to Inspire

Top 101 Filmmaking Quotes to Inspire

Anyone who has ever listen to the IFH Podcasts knows that I start off every episode with a filmmaking quote. I decided to put together a list of some of my favorite filmmaking quotes from some of the masters of the medium. Without further ado enjoy the inspiration.


Pick up a camera. Shoot something. No matter how small, no matter how cheesy, no matter whether your friends and your sister star in it. Put your name on it as director. Now you’re a director. Everything after that you’re just negotiating your budget and your fee.
James Cameron

 

When given an opportunity, deliver excellence and never quit.
― Robert Rodriguez

 

The saddest journey in the world is the one that follows a precise itinerary. Then you’re not a traveler. You’re a f@@king tourist.
― Guillermo del Toro

 

We don’t make movies to make money, we make money to make more movies.
– Walt Disney

Film is, to me, just unimportant. But people are very important.
― John Cassavetes

 

Let me just pause a minute and drink in this moment. And if you film it, I’ll be able to get free refills for life.
― Jarod Kintz

 

Cinema is a matter of what’s in the frame and what’s out.
― Martin Scorsese

 

There are no rules in filmmaking. Only sins. And the cardinal sin is dullness.
– Frank Capra

 

The characters in my films try to live honestly and make the most of the lives they’ve been given. I believe you must live honestly and develop your abilities to the full. People who do this are the real heroes.
– Akira Kurosawa

 

If there’s specific resistance to women making movies, I just choose to ignore that as an obstacle for two reasons: I can’t change my gender, and I refuse to stop making movies.
– Kathryn Bigelow

 

A storyshould have a beginning, a middle, and an end… but not necessarily in that order.
– Jean-Luc Godard

 

A film is – or should be – more like musicthan like fiction. It should be a progression of moods and feelings. The theme, what’s behind the emotion, the meaning, all that comes later.
Stanley Kubrick

 

The Biggest Mistake in Student Films is That They Are Usually Cast So Badly, With Friends and People the Directors Know.
– Brian De Palma

 

Although I Write Screenplays, I Don’t Think I’m a Good Writer.
George Lucas

 

A lot of times you get credit for stuff in your movie that you didn’t intend to be there.
– Spike Lee

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People say I pay too much attention to the look of a movie but for God’s sake, I’m not producinga Radio 4 Play for Today, I’m making a movie that people are going to look at.
Ridley Scott

 

I think audiences get too comfortable and familiar in today’s movies. They believe everything they’re hearing and seeing. I like to shake that up.
Christopher Nolan

 

For me, filmmaking combines everything. That’s the reason I’ve made cinema my life’s work. In films, painting and literature, theatre and music come together. But a film is still a film.
Akira Kurosawa

 

A Film is a Petrified Fountain of Thought.
– Jean Cocteau

 

My idea of professionalism is probably a lot of people’s idea of obsessive.
David Fincher

 

If you have to have a job in this world, a high-priced movie star is a pretty good gig.
– Tom Hanks

 

I like unformed characters. This may be because, no matter how old I get, I am still unformed myself.
– Akira Kurosawa

 

If a million people see my movie, I hope they see a million different movies.
Quentin Tarantino

 

The only safe thing is to take a chance.
– Mike Nichols

 

I Am Certain There is Too Much Certainty in the World.
– Michael Crichton

 

First cuts are a bitch for a director, because it’s been so many months and you put your trust in your editor and you’re going to see your film assembled for the first time. You look at it and go, This is terrible. I hate it.
– Richard Donner

 

I Hate Television. I Hate It As Much As Peanuts. But I Can’t Stop Eating Peanuts.
– Orson Welles

 

Casting is 65 percent of directing.
– John Frankenheimer

 

You see so many movies… the younger people who are coming from MTV or who are coming from commercialsand there’s no sense of film grammar. There’s no real sense of how to tell a story visually. It’s just cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, you know, which is pretty easy.
– Peter Bogdanovich

 

I couldn’t sleep one night and I was sitting in my office and I realized that I was an independent filmmaker.
Darren Aronofsky

 

Hollywood is great. I also think it’s stupid and small-minded and shortsighted.
– David Fincher

 

Being an artist means not having to avert one’s eyes.
– Akira Kurosawa

 

A director must be a policeman, a midwife, a psychoanalyst, a sycophant and a bastard.

– Billy Wilder

 

In the future, everybody is going to be a director. Somebody’s got to live a real life so we have something to make a movie about.
– Cameron Crowe

 

People have forgotten how to tell a story. Stories don’t have a middle or an end any more. They usually have a beginning that never stops beginning.
Steven Spielberg

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Film is a battleground.
–  Sam Fuller

 

Our feeling is that the most important thing on a set is that actors have enough confidence to try different things. If there’s stress or tension, they won’t go out on a limb because they won’t want to embarrass themselves if they don’t feel completely comfortable.
– Peter Farrelly

 

All I need to make a comedy is a park, a policeman and a pretty girl.
– Charlie Chaplin

 

Why Pay a Dollar for a Bookmark? Why Not Use the Dollar for a Bookmark?
– Steven Spielberg

 

Eighty Percent of Success is Turning Up.
– Woody Allen

 

Human beings share the same common problems. A film can only be understood if it depicts these properly.
– Akira Kurosawa

 

If My Film Makes One More Person Miserable, I’ve Done My Job.
– Woody Allen

 

The first monster you have to scare the audience with is yourself.
– Wes Craven

 

We tend to do period stuff because it helps make it one step removed from boring everyday reality.
Ethan Coen

 

Movement should be a counter, whether in action scenes or dialogue or whatever. It counters where your eye is going. This style thing, for me it’s all fitted to the action, to the script, to the characters.
– Samuel Fuller

 

It is the power of memory that gives rise to the power of imagination.
– Akira Kurosawa

 

But having a really good understanding of history, literature, psychology, sciences – is very, very important to actually being able to make movies.
– George Lucas

 

Cinema should make you forget you are sitting in a theater.
– Roman Polanski

 

I’ve reached a place that many directors and filmmakers get to, and I’m grateful for that, and I can work within those boundaries. If something comes along that is totally outside of horror, fine, but I find there’s an immense amount of freedom within the genre.
– Wes Craven

 

In order to write scripts, you must first study the great novels and dramas of the world. You must consider why they are great. Where does the emotion come from that you feel as you read them? What degree of passion did the author have to have, what level of meticulousness did he have to command, in order to portray the characters and events as he did? You must read thoroughly, to the point where you can grasp all these things. You must also see the great films. You must read the great screenplays and study the film theories of the great directors. If your goal is to become a film director, you must master screenwriting.
– Akira Kurosawa

 

“I just want to tell good stories in ways that will shine a light on lives rarely seen on screen,  because stories can push humanity forward.”
– Nia Dacosta

 

“It sounds kind of flighty, filmmaker-y, but I believe films are a piece of art. They are meant to be what they’re meant to be, and sometimes the artist is informed by the film of what it needs to be.”
– Ava DuVernay

 

“Truly creative things happen when one thinks differently, yet nobody wants to think differently.”
– Shonda Rhimes

 

“The challenge with this kind of work is in trying to make it everyone’s story. That can quickly make it no one’s story, and so I like projects that are risky and scary and that aren’t sure-shots.” – Dee Rees

 

“I don’t really wanna think about themes, I wanna just think about the experience of the movie. I feel like, as soon as I reduce it to a theme, once I write that sentence, it won’t be that great […] there’s more potential for it to mean something interesting if I’m not forcing it to mean something I’ve already decided.” – Wes Anderson

 

“In film, we sculpt time, we sculpt behavior and we sculpt light.”
– David Fincher

 

“There is no free lunch, so if you’re playing with the big train set – on big movies – it’s a lot of money they’re entrusting you with, and you have to get that money back for them. I don’t take that responsibility lightly.”
– Jon Favreau

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“It’s one thing having, for instance, nice images on your studio wall that influence you when you’re just beginning as an artist or filmmaker, but when you go about getting into a situation where you begin to make work yourself, it’s a different kettle of fish altogether. It’s all about doing it—the physicality of making films. What you see at the end is never the same as the situation of how it was done, yet that process is very important. It’s all about making a lot of mistakes and being brave.”
– Steve McQueen

 

“Don’t show it to somebody until you’re ready to show it to somebody. You only have one opportunity to make a first impression. Put your strongest foot forward.”
– Kasi Lemmons

 

“When you’re doing films, just with friends, with no money, on a shoestring. You have to be able to do all the jobs… And it’s a wonderful way to learn everything.”
– Christopher Nolan

 

“To me, no matter who you’re casting for what role, if something’s authentic, usually you can mine something good there.”
– Barry Jenkins

 

“We want to see drama told in a cathartic way, with power, with emotion, where you empathize and then you’re frightened. All those feelings charge up in you and you feel for the story.”
– Danny Boyle

 

“I am not here to bring trauma into people’s life so, my job as a director is to conjure the best out of other people within what they have already to work with.”
– Patty Jenkins

 

“People will forgive pretty much every technical thing before they will forgive bad sound. Your movie could look amazing, but if on every cut, the audio track is popping and making them aware of the cuts, it will pull them out.”
– Ryan Coogler

 

I’ve been obsessed with doomsday for a long time – the idea that different cultures respond to it differently, and religions will change people’s outlook on it.”
– Lorene Scafaria

 

“When you work for other people you’ll find … that they do know what’s best for them, and for the company. And you should listen to them and be respectful, but they don’t know what’s best for you.”
– Mike Judge

 

“I’ve been very fortunate. Some people might call me a hard head, but I’m not going to let other people dictate to me who I should be or the stories I should tell. That doesn’t register with me.”
– Spike Lee

 

“If you wanna do a film where you have a big scope, you’ve got to make your characters relatable and genuine.”
– Jennifer Lee

 

Screenwriting is like ironing. You move forward a little bit and go back and smooth things out.”
– Paul Thomas Anderson

 

“If I could boil it down to one thing… never ask permission to make movies. There’s no reason why you have to be asking permission to do your work.”
– Chris McQuarrie

 

“The advice I would give to any director is that you should act. A lot of directors spend a lot of time getting very good at technical things and imagining things visually, but they’ve never really learned how to direct a scene… It doesn’t matter how good a shot looks, the lifeblood, the thing that people will connect to, is these people.”
– Greta Gerwig

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“You hear it said time and time again by successful directors: You have to make a movie for yourself. Don’t make it for anyone else.”
– Jordan Peele

 

“I’m quite optimistic, but I feel we do need more female producers, more female cinematographers and such, just to make a better working environment among predominantly male film crews.”
– Mary Harron

 

“Every actor comes with their own experience, method, methodology.”
– Todd Haynes

 

“We need Storytelling. Otherwise, life just goes on and on like the number Pi.”
– Ang Lee

 

“The movie is not only about what story you’re telling and who you’re looking at. It’s mostly about how you’re telling it and how you’re looking at it.”
– Celine Sciamma

 

“My favorite genre lies inside myself, and as I follow my favorite stories, characters, and images, it sums up to a certain genre. So at times even I have to try to guess which genre a film will be after I’ve made it.”
– Bong Joon-ho

 

“A documentary filmmaker can’t help but use poetry to tell the story. I bring truth to my fiction. These things go hand in hand.”
– Chloe Zhao

 

“The lies are in the dialogue, the truth is in the visuals.”
– Kelly Reichardt

 

“When I started writing the script, I realized that I hadn’t really seen any film with a black couple that was worthy of Romeo and Juliet…And through Ada and Souleiman I wanted to relate a similar kind of tragic love, in the age of rampant capitalism.”
– Mati Diop

 

“So I feel a responsibility to help first-time filmmakers in Brazil, but also to increase the dialogue between film cultures which are really wonderful and so much closer to us than what we do see on our screens.”
– Walter Salles

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“My advice for anyone wanting to direct is that nobody is going to hand you an opportunity. You have to create your own opportunities and not take no for an answer.”
– Marielle Heller

 

“The questions I want to ask will revolve around humans, connection, relationships, family, and stories – what are the stories we tell ourselves and each other?”
– Lulu Wang

 

“I feel like there’s more of a need to tell more optimistic stories.”
– Eliza Hittman

 

“If you have the opportunity for your art to meet activism, you shouldn’t pass that up when it comes your way.”
– Regina King

 

“I started making films for myself and embracing the craft of filmmaking again. Consequently, my work got so much better.”
– Chinonye Chukwu

 

“There’s still a 1950s view of cinema, that there’s one audience and they all want to see the same thing.”
– Michael Winterbottom

 

“I would tell filmmakers: ‘Don’t just be seduced by the same old, same old. There are interesting things you can explore that may get your film out there to audiences better than the traditional distribution mechanisms.”
– Alex Gibney

 

“In a kid’s film, you go through the full range of human emotions…You’re scared, you’re excited, you laugh, you’re joyous, you’re sad. It’s exactly what she aims to capture.”
– Josephine Decker

 

“As independent filmmakers, we are actually deeply dependent on each other. The Spirit Awards are a public expression of those bonds, the intricate set of relationships and histories that we filmmakers depend on to make our most personal work.”
– Ira Sachs

 

“Storytelling was a way to see the world bigger than the one you were looking at, and that had great appeal for me.”
– Robert Redford

 

“I feel that as a writer and as a performer too. I never really thought about the backstory for characters. It was much more of a musical approach: You learn a melody, and then you sing it, I suppose, or you find a rhythm or a cadence that works for the material. And then it’s sort of about hitting that note correctly and finding those beats.”
– Brady Corbet

“Perhaps it sounds ridiculous, but the best thing that young filmmakers should do is to get hold of a camera and make a movie of any kind at all.”
– Stanley Kubrick

“You’re learning as you’re going, as a director, and each movie is its own entity.”
– Chris Buck

 

“Cinema is not only about making people dream. It’s about changing things and making people think.”
–  Nadine Labaki

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“I wanted to make gritty independent films that explored the same issues the movies that I looked up to when I was a teenager: coming of age, trauma, what it meant to live in really confusing situations. Of course, you try to figure out your world narratively.”
– Bing Liu

 

“I think what you need to search for in films is the integrity of the image. I wanted to make films with solid images that confront the spectator.”
– Alice Rohrwacher

 

“Movies don’t have to impress everyone the moment that it drops. Stuff can take its time to find its audience.”
– Cathy Yan

 

“The one thing that helps me construct the film […] is the places, actually, […] places have a soul [..]and I don’t even know what’s going to be in the scenes, I just know I want them to be here, and it gives me a frame.”
– Mia Hansen-Love

 

“Making films is about having absolute and foolish confidence; the challenge for all of us is to have the heart of a poet and the skin of an elephant.”
– Mira Nair ​​

 

“Movies don’t look hard, but figuring it out, getting the shape of it, getting everybody’s character right, and having it be funny, make sense and be romantic, it’s creating a puzzle.” – Nancy Meyers

 

IFH 646: Bulletproof: Writing Scripts that Don’t Get Shot Down David Diamond and David Weissman

Today on the show, we have screenwriters David Diamond and David Weissman. Their credits include studios’ movies like Family Man, Evolution, Old Dogs, and When in Rome. We discuss their adventures in the screenwriting trade, working with studios, and their new book Bulletproof: Writing Scripts that Don’t Get Shot Down.

The team of Diamond and Weissman has been writing movies and mentoring filmmakers for decades. In this practical guide, they take the aspiring writer by the hand and guide them through the logistics and tools of writing an attention-grabbing, audience-pleasing screenplay. Readers will learn the interests and needs of managers, agents, producers, executives, financiers, directors, and actors. Diamond and Weissman attribute their phenomenal success to a career-long focus on the motives and priorities of film sponsors and benefactors.

Whether it’s a theatrical release or a streaming movie, a major, big-budget tent pole, or an intimate, character-driven indie drama, Diamond and Weissman apply their time-tested approach. This fresh way of thinking will resonate with writers, industry professionals, and cinephiles excited to peek under the hood at what makes their favorite films tick.

Bulletproof: Writing Scripts that Don’t Get Shot Down is the rare screenwriting instructional penned by authors with both massive credits and decades of business experience.

Enjoy my conversation with David Diamond and David Weissman.

Alex Ferrari 0:05
I like to welcome the show, David diamond and David Weissman. Thank you so much for being on the show, guys.

David Diamond 3:44
Thanks for having us.

Alex Ferrari 3:45
So first, before we even get started, I have to tell you, I am a huge fan of one of your films that you that you wrote called Family Man with Nicolas Cage, it is one of my favorite Christmas movies ever. And every year that in diehard obviously, are both the films that my wife and I watch every single Christmas. So I have to ask you a few questions about that. Before we even get started. How did you like come up with that concept? And how like that whole project get put together? Because was one of your early films if I'm not mistaken, right?

David Weissman 4:16
Yes, yes, is the first film it's the first film studio film that we got made. And I think the idea, we were just sort of sort of playing around with the idea of, you know, a guy sort of wakes up with a family whatever but then we were sort of playing with this idea of what if there was a computer or something that could calculate the every decision that you made and what the paths going forward are and there would be billions of different a different choices and and I don't know how that I did just then sort of came out of it. This guy. What if you know one choice was different. One big decision was Different and where that life would diverge. And then that was the rest was that and we I mean that, amazingly enough that pitch, and we pitch that movie. It was one of the first things we ever sold. The pitch took half an hour to pitch, and much of the dialogue that's in the movie was in the pitch,

Alex Ferrari 5:21
Really? Because what I find what I find fascinating about this? Well, first of all, it was only it was a pitch that got you the job, which is a rarity nowadays, to get a job based off of a pitch Correct. Is that Is that fair to say?

David Diamond 5:33
Absolutely. It'd be very difficult to do that now. Maybe impossible.

Alex Ferrari 5:36
Exactly. But what I love about the film so much is that it grows with you. So when I first saw it, I didn't have kids. And I did have family. So when I first saw cans came out in 2006 1000 2000, right? So when I first saw it, I was like, I just loved the movie. But then fast forward 1015 years, I have kids and I have a wife and and my wife does the same thing. We're like, wow, it just you look at it so differently when you have children.

David Weissman 6:03
Yeah, well, it's expand the same thing for us. Because when we first wrote it, this David was just I think, starting the relationship with his wife, right?

David Diamond 6:18
I was just dating my wife, when we sold the pitch, right? I remember pitching it to her on a train. Right after we sold it before we were married. And when we were but our daughter was six months old when we were shooting, shooting the movie,

David Weissman 6:38
So it spanned. So I was single throughout the whole thing. So I was like you when you first saw the movie, you know, to me, the experience was always the other guy.

David Diamond 6:46
He was New York Jack.

Alex Ferrari 6:50
Because New York Jack looks fantastic. Nicolas Cage in New York, he's got all the money and the power and the women and it's like, but then at the as you get older,

David Diamond 6:58
I want him over to my side. But in New Jersey Jack

Alex Ferrari 7:01
Exactly. But eventually, as you grow older, and you get a little wiser, more mature, hopefully, you realize that New Jersey Jack is kind of a much better place to be. Yeah, as the character goes through in the movie.

David Diamond 7:13
That is true. Although I think, you know, one of the thoughts that we always had about the movie, as even as we were making it was that it's not so black and white, that, you know, you make certain compromises or sacrifices or life isn't negotiation, whichever life you're living, you give certain things up to have what you have. And it's just a matter of deciding where your priorities are. That's what the entire movie is about is defining your priorities.

Alex Ferrari 7:45
No, go ahead, no go ahead.

David Weissman 7:48
I was just gonna say that, you know, taking, taking great love for granted is is something that, you know, a lot of us do when we're super ambitious and young and pursuing that thing. And I think there was a lot for us in that because, you know, as writers, we also had these conflicts of, you know, what do you give up for your career? What do you and now, of course, the place we all end up, or many of us end up is in the family situation. And that's the thing that endures. And that's the thing that, you know, for us is the absolute priority now. So we've we've gone on the same journey that you have, I think about the movie and with the movie,

Alex Ferrari 8:34
And you just don't want to be the creepy guy in the club. You just don't want to be that dude. I mean, you just don't want to be that guy. I really like it. I've seen it like I see I remember when I was clubbing back in the day, you see that guy who's like 55. And he's just hanging out trying to pick up 20 year olds. I'm like, Oh, is that? Yeah,

David Diamond 8:55
That sounds super creepy. And I can tell you from personal experience when you have a 20 year old, more creepy.

Alex Ferrari 9:03
I have twin seven year old girls. And I don't even want to think about that. But just Oh, but there are stages in life. And I think that's something that when you're young, you don't realize you think you're going to be young forever. And this is the life you're going to leave but as stages go on in life, you do make those changes and that movie just makes it so wonderfully put together. So thank you again for making that film again. And every Christmas that and diehard on the blu ray pattern on the bluray

David Diamond 9:29
Diehard more often.

Alex Ferrari 9:32
Arguably the greatest Christmas movie of all time. And I know Bruce says it's not a Christmas I don't care. It's the greatest one of the greatest Christmas movies. Now, so let me ask you, how did you guys first of all, how did you guys get together? How did you get into the business? How does this work?

David Diamond 9:48
So on one foot, we went to high school together so we've been best friends since we were 15 years old. We parted for college, I went to NYU David went to Hebrew University in Jerusalem, and then University of Michigan. And then after college, I moved out here to LA with some friends from school, and I was working for a producer. And during my year doing that, that's when I realized I wanted to be writing movies. So I left town to do that for a little bit. And part of the time, I was gone. I moved in with Dave, who was in graduate school at University of Wisconsin in Madison. And he was studying Chinese history. And I was prerequisite

Alex Ferrari 10:37
Prerequisite to be a screenwriter obvious.

David Weissman 10:38
Ni Hao Ma

David Diamond 10:42
That's the extent of his Chinese. That's all I remember. And about four months, entire time together, living together in Madison, we had an idea for a script, and he was finished writing his master's thesis. And I was finished reading the script, I went there to write, and we started writing it. And and that started a process that took a few years, I guess, while each of us was right, and we were reading together, anytime he had a break in his academic calendar, summers we would spend together writing or if I was on winter break, I would go find him. And we would write together. And we were also writing separately. And, and then in 1991 91 decision, we made a decision that if you know, the stuff we were writing together was getting more traction than this stuff either of us was writing separately. We just decided that, you know, if we really wanted to be serious about this and do this, we should do it together and make a commitment. So he dropped out of grad school. Yeah. And he moved out here and

David Weissman 11:50
I dropped out of grad school. And on the three day drive from Providence, Rhode Island, to Los Angeles, I forgot every word of Chinese that I had learned in the previous eight years.

Alex Ferrari 12:03
Fantastic. And you guys, so you guys get out here obviously the bunny they just start throwing money at you, obviously right away.

David Diamond 12:10
Yes. Right. So this was another in retrospect, it's funny, it wasn't funny at the time. But we sort of cemented this partnership on the cyclone at Coney Island. Yeah, we went for a ride on the cyclone. We're gonna do this. No surrender. And I told Dave that I really feel like if we partner we will be successful within a year. He guaranteed it. He didn't just tell me it's like it's a year. I did. I did. 12 months guaranteed. I felt and I felt frankly, at the time I was being kind of conservative. I mean, a year that's long enough for us at the time. It was long enough to write probably three screenplays.

Alex Ferrari 12:52
How old are you? How old are you at this point?

David Diamond 12:55
We're 25 I think? No, no. 25. In the we were in our 20s

Alex Ferrari 13:02
Mid 20s, mid 20s,

David Weissman 13:04
Early 20s.

David Diamond 13:05
And so you know, he does the thing he drops out of grad school. He tells his parents I'm dropping out of grad school. They love that.

Alex Ferrari 13:12
They loved it. Fantastic. Yeah. To be a screenwriter in LA. Fantastic.

David Weissman 13:16
Yeah. I'm moving out to LA to become a writer.

David Diamond 13:20
Yeah. So we move in together, we start writing cut to a year later. And we are when I tell you we are no further along than when we started. Nothing, nothing.

Alex Ferrari 13:33
Nothing. You knew nobody else that you didn't know a year earlier.

David Weissman 13:37
We had not only not every meal at Subway, every meal,

David Diamond 13:40
But I had I had started dating someone at the time, not my wife. And and once I came into the apartment, I said to him, you know, I'm dating this girl and I'm starting to think like I might one day want to get married. And I don't know if this is gonna work. And he looked at me like there was a graduate school for a guaranteed man. Oh, yeah, that's right. That's right. I said a year. Okay. But the truth is, it took two years to go. Yeah, a couple months over two years. We had actually with about a year. I moved out in January of 1992. In March of 1993, we had written and we're making a independent movie. For a comput for sin intel that was like a sequel to like a, you know, sort of a mildly successful title they had for which we were paid. I think $2,500 So we don't really consider that our first that wasn't really success. It was about a year later. I believe it was April of 1994 that we sold our first spec so and that was what really launched our career.

Alex Ferrari 15:00
And then how did you end up? I'm assuming you found an agent or something like that during that time?

David Diamond 15:05
Yeah, yeah, we did, we had an agent who had read one of our earlier specs and responded to the writing in the script, he didn't think he could sell the script. This is a story that we tell in our book, which we'll talk about in a bit. But it was an effective writing sample. And he said to us, I don't think that I can sell this, but I like the writing. And if you come up with an idea that's a little more in the mainstream, we can really launch your career. And we sat down together and talked about ideas and chose an idea. And we, we wrote that script, and he sold it and launched our career,

Alex Ferrari 15:45
What's that script ever get made?

David Diamond 15:48
That never got made a script was called the whiz kid, we sold it to 20th Century Fox, with a young Elijah Wood attached to star. And it just sort of went off course, in development. Sure. A very typical development story. But you know, it really, both in the way it was sold, because it was sold as a spec, there was a blind script commitment in the sale. So it was like one of these big sales that gets in the trades. And you know what one thing the agent had said to us when he was when we were discussing what to do, because he read the script that we wrote, and he liked it. And he said, basically, look, I could send this out, I could get you a few meetings, maybe out of one of those meetings, you come up with an idea, you pitch that idea, you get paid Writers Guild minimum to write it, you could go that way. But there's a there's maybe a better way, which is write a different script, that's a big idea, sell it on spec, make a big splash. And suddenly, you're sort of entering the business at a different level. And we took his advice, which was really the best advice I think anybody had ever given us. And maybe the best advice we'd ever gotten, because maybe the only advice we have ever been, but exactly what he said came true. That's what happened. And we had the good fortune of sort of entering the business at a slightly higher level than then we would have had we not sold that spec. And out of that, you know, uh, out of that deal, there was a blind script commitment. And that that became a script that we wrote called Guam goes to the moon, which was really the script that we wrote the kind of made us sort of well known in, in development circles at the studios. And that script really sort of became almost like a brand or something that people really knew of ours. And then family man, was the next thing we sold. And that was the first one to get made. And it only took five years. So

Alex Ferrari 17:58
So one year tops. Yeah, one year.

David Weissman 18:03
From the time that he told me to come out here, which was in 1991, to family man getting made in 1999. Right. Yours. Thank you very much.

Alex Ferrari 18:16
And that's um, was a fairly big success from when it came out. It was a studio release. It did very well in the theater, if I remember correctly, right. Yeah. It wasn't like, it didn't make a billion dollars. But it did. It did well, for a movie.

David Weissman 18:27
It wasn't there. But it was a solid. It was a solid performer at the bar was one of the successful movies of that Christmas season. Yeah. And then it's amazing legs.

Alex Ferrari 18:37
It was about to say must it's still it plays all the time. And I see it all the time.

David Weissman 18:41
Yeah, it's really it's a movie that I think has, as you say, and this was very, I think very perceptive, the movie is aged well, I think because it ages in the same way that people's lives ages, you know, the values that it was sort of about I think people appreciate it, and they'd watch it every year. And I think that it's that's been that's been wonderful for us to see. And in our career. It's been a it's been a great thing. It was also you know, it was really the first thing it was the first studio movie we got made. It was a really exciting time. We were on set all the time. They they we weren't we weren't we sort of every one of the Hollywood cliches about studio movies did not apply to this we were really really respected on said we were young guys but treated as much more seasoned veterans and the director was was, you know, was super inclusive as the actress super inclusive of us. In fact, the joke that the producers said about us was they kept saying you guys right like old like old guys. And they met in a nice way. Of course. Actually. We're old guys. I don't think it came out that way. But But I think what they were saying was there was a maturity to the writing that they really appreciated. And and I think that sort of reflected in how the movie is aged.

Alex Ferrari 20:07
And one last thing I will leave family man alone after this. It is Nicolas Cage being very Nicolas Cage he just so wonderful. It's it was just

David Weissman 20:17
He was so amazing to when he he sort of inhabited that character a way that we never you could you can't imagine it until you see it happening. And I remember the four days of rehearsal that we did for that movie as being really one of the most exciting things that had ever happened in in my career in our career. Because it was the first time we got to see what he did with this character and the life that he gave it. And it was completely unexpected in so many ways. And that's his I think that's his genius is that he took that that character that we had sort of imagined for a long time, because we've been working on this movie for over five years, and gave it life that we hadn't imagined. And it was pretty great.

Alex Ferrari 21:03
That's what good actors do.

David Diamond 21:04
Yeah, that was really a gift. And I wish it for all of your listeners that, you know, a really good actor takes lines, there were lines, we thought they were jokes. And he didn't play them for jokes at all. He played them 100% committed to Yeah, straight. And then there were other lines that we did not think were jokes that coming out of his mouth. Were so fun. And so it was every scene was a surprise and it was always a pleasant surprise.

Alex Ferrari 21:35
So you guys have sat down and now written a book about screenwriting in the screenwriting process, which I have to say an amazing title because the title of ours podcast is the bulletproof screenplay podcast. So you know, when, when Ken reached out is that, Hey, there's this book, do you guys want to talk to the authors? I'm like, Well, of course bulletproof has to be on the bulletproof screenplay podcast. So the book is called bulletproof writing scripts that don't get shot down. What was the concept behind the book? I mean, there's, there's, I think, a couple of books on screen writing, not too many, but just a few. So what what you wanted to throw, you know, you throw your hat in the ring, and what you thought was going to be different about your approach?

David Diamond 22:16
Yeah, so the first thing that's different about our approach is there are as you say, there are a lot of books on screenwriting out there, there are not a lot of books on screenwriting, that are written by people who have made movies produced by movie studios. So in that sense, we're part of a smaller group, I think. We haven't read a ton of these books, from what we've seen, most of them really do have something at least valuable to offer. But what we felt we had to offer was our 25 years of experience writing movies for movie studios. And the specific approach that we take in the book, in addition to looking at the process, from the perspective of developing character and ideas, and sort of from the bottom up, is to look at the process simultaneously from the top down, meaning, what are managers and agents and actors and directors and studios and financiers, and marketing people? What are they looking for, from this idea, and from this process that you're about to embark on? Because without a partner, you're not selling your movie or getting your movie made? It's just not gonna happen. So you know, writers may write in a vacuum, but movies do not get made in a vacuum. So what we were trying to do in this book is, you know, we're trying to answer all the questions we've ever been asked by people who are trying to write movies and write for television, and, and share our experience, a big piece of which is the realization that when you start working on something you really have to be able to envision, who's gonna make this movie? Where is this movie going to be released? How's it going to be released? How's it going to be marketed, who's going to be in it? These are all questions that that need to be considered throughout the process.

Alex Ferrari 24:30
Yeah, and I find that screenwriters don't think about things like that, because it's just all about the art, or the of the or the craft of the story, but they're like they they'll spend six months on a screenplay, but they have no idea how they're going to sell it. They have no idea what the marketplace is looking for, or if they're looking for something like this, or even if it's an original idea, you can have I mean, look at family, man. It's a great original concept. I don't think the marketplace was like we need a family man. Like it wasn't something They were asking for, but it showed up at the right place at the right time. And and you had ideas about how and where it could go? I think a lot of screenwriters don't think that way. I think this is a great idea for a book as well as the other stuff that you teach in as far as craft is concerned.

David Weissman 25:14
I think I think that's very true. I mean, screenwriting is different, right. I mean, when it's, I think the one kind of writing that, that you do that when you finish, it's really just the beginning of a process. And so you don't really have anything other than a screenplay. And as far as I know, selling a screenplay that hasn't been made into a movie is something that no one has ever done. So I mean, nobody, people read screenplays of movies that have been made, but they rarely outside of the business read screenplays of movies that haven't been made. And so for us, the probably one of the biggest epiphanies we had in our career was the moment that we realize that we aren't going to get anywhere in this business, if all we're doing is trying to amuse each other. Because first of all, we are easily amused by each other, obviously, outright, obviously, in a room together, and we try to make each other laugh, we've been doing that since we're literally 14 years old, trying to make each other laugh, and it's one of the most satisfying things we can do. That being said, no one else cares. So when we, when we realize this, it was such a such an sort of inspired moment for us because it it brought everything into perspective about this as a collaborative medium, and, and that if we were going to do this successfully, as professionals, we had to from the very earliest stages, start thinking about all the stakeholders down the line who we need to get this movie made. And so doing I think it helped us in our career. But it's also one of the one of the biggest things that we've tried to we've tried to give other people who ask us for advice as people do. And and we decided, You know what, let's, let's put it in a book, let's let's systematically sort of dissect what we what we've done and how we do it. And maybe it'll give some insight to people, maybe maybe it'll be helpful or not. But, you know, we think it's been it's been helpful for us. So we hope it'll be helpful for other people to

Alex Ferrari 27:31
Now what is the biggest mistake or thing that you see that makes you cringe in first time screenplays, because I'm sure you've read a couple of them in your life.

David Weissman 27:41
Hey, I think what people think his story and what is actually story are very different things. And, you know, a lot of people, I think, assume that if something happened to them, and they found it interesting or fun, or, or meaningful. And that's not to deny that it isn't interesting or fun or meaningful for them. But it's not necessarily a story that will engage other people. And I think that, you know, there's so many mistakes that you can make along the way that are typical mistakes. And, you know, I don't even know, like, we still make them, you know, all the time. We were guys that we don't nail anything to like the 10th draft really like we are, we are serial rewriters. And, and we know we have to be because, you know, for us, the process is a long process. So maybe the biggest mistake a screenwriter can make is showing an early draft to somebody who is in not just a an advisory role, but like a decision making role. It's a huge mistake.

Alex Ferrari 29:02
But isn't it? Isn't it the definition of a professional who goes and sits down and does 10 drafts as opposed to the amateur who will release the second draft saying we're good work good. I think this is one year one year that's all we need one only takes one year, just one year move out to LA quit graduate school, it's gonna be fine. It's gonna be fine. But isn't that truly the definition of a professional professional sits there and understands that they have to pound it in pounded and tighten and squeeze and chisel where as opposed to leave it out there and just like oh, second draft, we're good.

David Diamond 29:37
Yeah. Yeah, I think also a big difference between the professional and the non professional. And one of the biggest mistakes we see people make is there's a certain point in the process where your movie reveals itself, where it starts to be clear, you can tell as you're reading someone's script on page 65 And okay, I get what this movie is trying to be, I get what this movie is supposed to be, you haven't really delivered on that. But it's clear to me what it's sort of asking to be what this idea is asking today. And I think a lot of us, including the two of us, have a tendency to want the movie to be what we want it to be, there's a certain point, you have to sort of give it over to the idea and let the idea be your guide. That's hard to do. But it's also very liberating in a way if you if you can do it, but a lot of times, we can talk to writers about their scripts and say, Well, I wanted this or I wanted that. And, you know, we get that. But at a certain point, it's not about what you want. It's you have an idea. And this is what your idea once

Alex Ferrari 30:49
It's to be of service to the idea to the store, as opposed to your ego, correct what I want and I want to control which I think writers in general have a control, we're control freaks, because we'd like to control the whole world that we're creating. But in many times, you're right, that idea is that wild horse, you just got to let it go. If you try to hold it in, it's not gonna do well for you.

David Weissman 31:08
Correct! And if you listen, if you're a control, freak, screenwriting might not be for you. Because you don't control anything. I mean, maybe if you're Steven Soderbergh and you're a writer, director, editor, cinematographer everything okay, then you can but you know, even even a director in this business has to count on so many people being creative in the right way to make something great. So it's not a good it's I don't think it's screenwriting is a good career for control freaks. But I think you're right that tons of control freaks become screenwriters

Alex Ferrari 31:41
Without question. Now, what is the difference between an idea for a movie and an idea for a screenplay?

David Weissman 31:52
Well, we've only had probably five ideas for a movie in our career, because I think that's all been made into a movie. Okay. We've had about 700 ideas for screenplays. Maybe it's a percentage thing, what do you know, the screenplay is a document that's formatted in a particular way. So if I wake up in the morning, and I say, I had a dream last night, I think it'd be a great idea for a movie. And I start writing and I write for three days straight, and I write 90 pages. And I have character names. Sure. And dialogue, and I can even have special effects. And my dream is in there. That's a screenplay. That's a screenplay. Making some sense of it, what that's about what the themes are, how the characters grow from the beginning to the end. If I don't have that, I don't have a movie. And so for us, that's really the difference between writing a screenplay and writing a movie. And you know, thinking, I think a lot of writers when they start, they're inspired by things, as Dave was saying, before that have happened to them or feelings that they have that they want to get out. It's all very useful, good stuff to think about and write about. But if you don't really figure out the full idea of the movie, and the growth of the character, and what the theme of the movie is, and the whole world that you're going to present in your story, then you do not have a movie, you may have a screenplay, but not a movie. Mind Not, not every movie gets made into a movie, right? I mean, we have lots of screenplays, that are movies that have never gotten made. But if you write one, even if it doesn't get made, it will help you tremendously in your career. Because the one thing that every development executive and director and Manager An agent worth anything can do is identify a movie, they're good at it. People, you know, you can't fool you can't fool them. So it may not get made. Because I mean, this is a business. They cost a lot of money to make a movie tastes change styles change politics. Yeah, sure. Politics, whatever. But if you've written a movie, it will help you know. So that's why it's a worthy goal.

Alex Ferrari 34:16
How many screenplays Do you have between you and your career? There's a point to this, there's a point to

David Weissman 34:23
This such an embarrassing question. It's I don't know, like 100 probably write something like something like I mean, I think it ridiculous

David Diamond 34:33
Just just since we turned professional in 1994. I think that they're probably around 70. Yeah. And then there's at least 15 that we wrote before we were professional, right or more. Yeah. And then you know, there's fragments of another dozen more that we never finished, right? I don't know. It's

Alex Ferrari 34:59
Well, it's not embarrassing. I don't look at it as embarrassing because I asked the question for a specific reason, because I think that so many screenwriters just show up quitting graduate school showing up to LA. And they have the one screenplay. And they spent if they spent four years on that one screenplay, and they have everything on it, where that is an amateur move where a professional like you just said was amazing. Like before we turned professional, we had 15 screenplays. So you had the experience of going through that process 15 times. I'm sure you learned a lot during that process to the point where when you turn professional, you probably added another 15 or whatever, before you started really gaining simply do you need to go through that process? You need to kind of go through that and that's something that most screenwriters especially young screenwriters, they don't think because they think that one idea that's that's the one that's going to make them a billion dollars and it's not that it's a numbers game.

David Diamond 35:52
Yeah, well, it's it is a numbers game and it's also you know, this is we talk about it in the book. This is the Malcolm Gladwell 10,000 hours rule, right? This is this is when you learn how you learn your craft and you practice it and it's batting practice. You don't step up to the plate and hit a home run in the major leagues the first time you swing a bat right got to go through literally go through the minors you got to go through all the all the steps before there are no shortcuts. Yeah. And even the genius have to do it. You did Michael Michael

Alex Ferrari 36:23
Jordan practice and practice and practice until he was in he was and he was arguably much better than all three of us put together on on our best days. It doesn't even compare to his worst day when he had 104 degree temperature and he still wanted

David Weissman 36:40
A great scene when we had 104 degree temperature. Amazing. scene

Alex Ferrari 36:45
Exactly. Now, what advice can you give writers where they can find inspiration? Because a lot I mean, inspiration, finding that well of inspiration when the Muse doesn't show up all that kind of stuff. What's your advice on that?

David Diamond 36:58
Well, I think those are actually two different questions. Okay. You know, one thing is one question is where do you find your inspiration? And the other question is, what do you do when your muse doesn't show? Right? Okay. The truth is, if you wrote only when you are inspired, none of us would get anywhere, there would be no movies would get me, you know, this is a job. So, you know, Dave and I, we work bankers hours, we take our kids to school, we show up, we work from, you know, eight to four 430. And then we pick our kids up, and we have dinner with our families. When he says at 430. He means 10 to 12. Yeah, something like

Alex Ferrari 37:36
I could read between the lines, sir.

David Diamond 37:39
So you got to show up every day, whether you're inspired or not, I think that any anyone who's inclined to do this probably has their own access to inspiration, whether it's music or other movies, or wherever you find your creative muse. You know, everything's on the table, and everything's legitimate. I think that the bigger more important question is, what do you do when the Muse doesn't show up? And the answer is, you go to work, you go to work, and you have you have to, you have to be inspired by the prospect of success. Because if you don't believe that you're going to be successful, why do it? You know, it's gonna be really hard to do it. I think every screenwriter has to really believe that, you know, I can be successful and I can do this. And by the way, you know, we're I think screenwriters, we're pretty average group of people, you know, we're not, I don't think we're a group of geniuses. I've met a lot of writers in my life. They're, they're, you know, they have, so they share certain qualities, but they work hard at it. And you know, if you work hard at it, I think you can probably you can probably do it, at least learn to do it at a level that if you're dedicated enough, and you have some modicum of talent, you can do it successfully as a career. But if you don't think about the result, if you don't think get inspired by like what could happen, I think it's going to be hard to finish your your work for the day, the only thing I would say is, you should be excited, not just by the prospect of your own success in your career, but you should be inspired by what the particular project you're working on convey. Because there are going to be days that are going to be very difficult, you're going to be dragging, you're going to be facing a problem, you're not sure how to resolve it. And if you're not excited about the overarching idea that you're working on, and about the prospect of delivering the screenplay of that idea and seeing that movie on screen, even if it's on your phone, it's gonna be hard to get through the difficult days. It's a little bit like marriage. You know, something is Other than others

Alex Ferrari 40:00
To che, Sir,

David Weissman 40:01
It's great every day.

Alex Ferrari 40:03
Yes, mine too. I don't know what you're talking about. If you're listening? Well, it's very similar to what Steven Pressfield said, which is like you just show up every day, you just let them use know that I'm going to be at this desk every day between 830 and 430. That's if you decide to show up, this is where I'll be. But every day I'm going to show up. And that's the only way you just got to keep keep cranking.

David Diamond 40:27
It's yeah, totally true.

Alex Ferrari 40:29
Now, what is the anatomy of or actually in a better yet? How can you write or build a bulletproof character? In your opinion?

David Diamond 40:40
So writing a bulletproof character, is you have to answer certain essential questions about that character. So you're starting with a character that has something that they want, and something that they need. And the evolution of that character is really about them, figuring out the what they need, starting from what they want, pursuing what they want, overcoming obstacles, and coming out the other side, having achieved something that they never really knew that they needed. But that's the journey that that's the journey that you're watching. And the way we build those characters is what we do, and we write about this in the book is, we create a chart, we list every single character, and where they are in the beginning of the movie, what their goal is in the beginning of the movie, and we track them through the entire movie, looking at the everything that happens from the perspective of every single character. And that helps us create not just characters that grow over time, but scenes that are much more dynamic. Because you have characters with different perspectives, points of view, you're coming at each other. And you see in, you know, in a script. Pretty much everybody who writes a script can can sort of tell the story from their main character's point of view, because it's, it's what inspired you to write it. And it's really, it's really the main story you're telling, what we like to do is do it for every character. Look at the movie, from the perspective of every character who's a major character in the in the script. And what that allows us to do is, you know, often tell 5678 individual stories, and I think it definitely will help you in terms of sort of figuring out not just how this movie is about your main character, but how it's about sort of these ancillary characters as well.

Alex Ferrari 42:49
Now, can you talk a little bit about subtext because I think something that's something that's so missing from so many screenplays in today's world, my screenplays included, that it's very, on the nose, very on the nose kind of stuff. And like, I don't like you, I don't like you either. And that's kind of it as opposed to doing it with a look or, you know, many other different techniques. Can you talk a little bit about subtext in your characters? Or in your, in your stories in general?

David Weissman 43:16
Yeah. We don't write with subtext because that's extra. We. It's funny, because we've been mostly comedy writers for our career. And I think that humor is often subtext. You know, you can't, when a character says something funny, or does something funny, when there's something funny that happens in your screenplay, it can't just be two characters saying what's on the surface, saying what's on their mind, it has to be sort of a clash, I think of a deeply held views. And subtext is, is incredibly important, because your characters are talking and doing things in a movie, but they're often not not saying what they really think. And they're often not doing what they really want to do. So, you know, tone is so important. And all the things sort of behind the writing are incredibly important. And we probably, I think, you know, this is something that when you're on your 10th draft, as we often are, this is when you really start discovering subtext. And where we're layering, layering those things into your screenplay starts happening. And it's, it's like what you say, you know, if you're just handing in your first draft, you're not going to have the subtext unless you're some crazy genius. It's gonna take a while to figure that out and find that. Also, a lot of subtext is about this distinction between what a character wants and what a character needs.

Alex Ferrari 44:59
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David Diamond 45:09
So, you know, if your character's goal is, for example, we were talking about family man earlier, this character, what he wanted was just to get back to his old life, to physically return to New York and live in his apartment and have his job. That's what that character wanted. But that's not what that character needed. And so for a lot of the time in that movie is he's talking with his wife in New Jersey, played by Taylor Leone, he's having conversations where he's still very much focused in the conversation and the dialogue, on wanting to get back to the life that he had before. But this is not what that character needed. And ultimately, the subtext becomes text, where in the third act of the movie, the character starts speaking very directly to what they need. And that's, that's when

Alex Ferrari 46:01
The magic magic magic happens. Well, if I if I, if I might have an example of a little bit of subtext in family man, where he goes shopping, and he gets that suit, when he's trying on that suit, sure. And then when she's like, we can't afford that. And all of a sudden, it becomes so much more than about the suit. Obviously, there's so many more deeper feelings in it. This comes out in the argument what it really is about, but originally, it was just like, I'm gonna buy the suit. Like you can't buy the suit. Like it's not about suit. It was that a good example.

David Diamond 46:32
That's a great example. That, again, that movie is all about priorities and how you prioritize personal relationships, family, and career aspirations and ambition. And that's what the suit scene is about. He wants his $2,000 suit. He feels like a better man. But he's but is he a better man?

Alex Ferrari 46:52
It is. So it's such a ridiculous cut when he says that I feel like cringing when he says like, I feel like a better man wearing this. Like that says so much about his character and where he is in his life at that moment in time. Like, I'm like, if I'm wearing this I feel like a better man. Like that's,

David Diamond 47:10
Yeah, I have to say when you put on a $2,000 suit

Alex Ferrari 47:13
I had Yes. You I don't know if I feel like a better man. But you feel something.

David Diamond 47:18
Something. There's something in that fabric or something that scene was a father and the truth of being a father is you never get that suit.

Alex Ferrari 47:28
No, you're right.

David Weissman 47:30
I mean, it's like you're sort of always giving up on the suit. Looks I think it was it was sort of you know anticipated what it's gonna be like for us

Alex Ferrari 47:39
Well, like like I always say if you look behind me I have a life size Yoda Yes. Sitting in my in my office. I bought that when I was single before I met my wife. Can you imagine the conversation right now? Of me walking to my wife and going baby I think I think I need a life size Yoda and I know the kids have summer camp coming up but I but I need a life size Yoda it's an incredible value. It's an it's gonna only appreciate in time it's an investment really? Like can you imagine having these conversations anytime I meet single guys I'm like dude, by any crazy thing you want. Time to do that life size, hope that you've been wanting to cost $6,000 on eBay. Buy it now because that will not have that will not have happened. That never happened. Never never happened. It was the OTA the other one I bought it was like 300 400 bucks at the time. It has probably sell it for 1000s Now, it's probably now in the range of 800 to 1000. I check every like three or four years. I'll check eBay just to see where it's at. 1000 bucks now probably it's from 1999 It was from The Phantom Menace release. It was one that was in blockbusters and they only had like, in all the blockbusters it was like a giveaway of blockbusters. I bought it and now it's part of the family I'll never get rid of it. You know my girls were raised with Uncle Yoda I mean it's part of the thing but the point is that is my suit like I can have if you look behind me there's like statues of like the Hulk and Wolverine and stuff. They all cost like three or $400 apiece again before children came right I was married but before children that were the case it's it's yeah it's yeah before BC Yes Before children. I can that I can't have that come I can't go to Comic Con anymore and go babe i I'm gonna spend 600 bucks at Comic Con. I'm gonna do that. That conversation won't happen. So we have skewed off the topic but this is a lesson for everybody listening. Any young writers listening by crazy stuff

David Diamond 49:30
Buy now you're now saying from this podcast? Take that we had it just eBay is now $20,000 richer because of us.

Alex Ferrari 49:42
So much buying a life size calc so to speak. By the way I do want that lifestyle hope but I don't even know where I could put it because it's so tip.

David Weissman 49:51
I see right behind you. You could put it in that chair next to the Yoda and it's perfect.

Alex Ferrari 49:55
It's like eight feet tall literally won't Oh It will literally won't fit in my room. Yeah, but I'm letting go of that a little bit. I'm letting It's okay. It's okay. Um, now one other question I have for you guys is, what can screenwriters do to make their their scripts stand out or them to stand out of the crowd? Because even when you guys were starting in the 90s, it's a lot different worlds, even when you got family man made than it is today. I mean, arguably, family man probably wouldn't get made today in the studio system, because that's not the movies that they're making now.

David Weissman 50:26
Yeah, yeah, family that would be hard to get made today. And many of the scripts that we've sold, and I, you know, I listen. It's, there's no question about it, there's an arms race in screenwriting, right? In terms of shocking people or creating, you know, crazy set pieces, or, or all these things. I mean, I really feel like if you want your script to stand out, make the reader feel something that's always, always some, it's something that never goes out of fashion, and something that people will always respond to. And it's has nothing to do with the arms race of shock value, or things that are that are kind of crazy. If you make somebody feel something, it's undeniable. And listen, it might not, you might not sell your script for a million dollars, but it will get the attention of the people reading it. And it'll lead to good things. I agree. 100%. I mean, the truth is, you may still not sell your script. But you will really earn a lot of fans, people will talk about you, they'll share your script with other people ultimately, that's what you want. You know, what happens out here is people read stuff, and for them to take it to their boss, you know, you put your you put your

Alex Ferrari 51:52
It's risk, it's a risk. What's that? It's a risk on their part. Yes.

David Diamond 51:56
Right. So if you're going to ask somebody else to read something, you have to at least be able to say this really moved me I thought this was really wonderful. And, and no one will ever resent you for making them read something that that moves them, you know, even if ultimately they're not going to buy it, they may say it doesn't fit in here. This is not our brand, they may say that. But if they're moved, they'll never regret having read it. And they may hire you to write something else. And it doesn't matter what genre you're writing in. It's a horror movie. It's an action movie, it's a comedy, whatever it is, make the reader feel something but want to be moved, they want to be impacted. And the other thing that I would say is write something, find your twist on whatever genre you're writing in, you know, if what you deliver is a script that people feel they've read 100 times before and offers nothing new. It's hard to be inspired by that. But if you can, if you can do something in a way that's a little bit different that has your own unique spin on it. That's very helpful.

Alex Ferrari 53:12
I mean, it's talking about being moved. I mean, arguably and everyone listening will now turn off because I'm going to talk about my favorite movie of all time. But it there's a reason why it Shawshank Redemption, is one of those films that arguably anybody that I speak to says, well, that's just great. And if they don't like it, they're dead inside. And I can't speak to you. That's just obviously I mean, do you I'm assuming you guys are fans. If not, we could just end the conversation now. Yeah.

David Diamond 53:37
I actually showed it to my kids not that long ago to my son's and now it's one of their top movies. And these are kids who are growing up in the Marvel era,

Alex Ferrari 53:47
Right. And that's the thing that because I saw it when I was just out of high school, it was like 94 When that got released. I'm like that, that year, a great year for movies that you hear. And, and I remember that like my friends who were in high school who like thought John Claude Van Damme was the greatest actor of all time. They said that they got that was a really good movie, it had penetrated all of the ignorance and the just the non nuances of being that young, like you did with your sons, probably who like growing up in the Marvel times, and said, Wow, that really hit me. And I've studied that movie. And I've studied that scripts so much. And I always ask any screenwriters I have on the show, like, what is it like what like, because it's the worst name in history. It's the worst pitch in history. Like there's nothing like have any sort of value in the way that they present the idea. But yet it cuts through everything and now is considered you know, if not the best, according to IMDb, one of the best films of all time, but yet, there's no reason it should be, you know, so I always ask screenwriters who are fans? What do you think the reasoning is behind that film?

David Diamond 54:52
I think it taps into a our desire to To believe in the good things in life and hope and friendship. I mean, those are the two things that survive in that movie. And and that's, that's what prevails in that movie hope and friendship, Hope, Faith friendship. If those things are important to you or resonate with you, then it's hard not to be a fan of Shawshank Redemption.

Alex Ferrari 55:30
Yeah, without question. That's what like, like I said, if he's like you just said, if you're a fan of hope and friendship, you're gonna like it. So if you don't like you're obviously not a friend. You obviously don't like hope or friendship and you're, you're dead inside.

David Diamond 55:42
Why do people like Springsteen

Alex Ferrari 55:45
Like you to do? I mean, what Springsteen I love Springsteen, how can you not love Springsteen? Come on? Yeah, I agree. But I'm from, I'm from a different generation. So are you guys but I know the boss. And I remember him, and I still remember his stuff. But he's one of how do you not like the Beatles? Like how can you not, you know, look at the Beatles and go. Again, skewed off course. But we're now back. And one last question, I want to ask you, rewrites so important in this process. And we've kind of touched upon it any tips on rewrites and how to do that chiseling, because we originally start with a really big piece of marble and like Michelangelo says, he just chisel away and reveal the David. But that is a painstaking thing. Anything, any advice? Any tips you can give us?

David Weissman 56:33
Yeah, I think by the time you get to, you know, it is sort of, like you say, it's like chipping away and revealing a statue, you know, by the time you write your 105 pages, or whatever it is, you should at least be able to see the blueprint of the movie that you're hoping to make. And you should be able to achieve some clarity. And so you have to ask yourself, you know, if to go back to the beginning, and articulate the idea that's driving your movie, who is your character? Have I gotten the most out of the concept for this movie? Have I introduced the best possible obstacles? And you need to make sure that the draft that you produce responds, response to those questions? Is this the funniest movie I can write? Is this the scariest movie that I can write? It's just about sharpening, sharpening, sharpening, and it's also about giving your script and when you're ready to, to people, you very you trust very much people who are close to you, and getting feedback from them. And really trying to discern from the feedback that you get, have I can effectively communicated the idea that I'm trying to communicate, are people getting this? And if they're not getting it, why are they not getting it? And what do I need to change? And if they are getting it, and they have suggestions? Are they good suggestions? You know, are they should I do what they're saying in the way that they suggest it? Or have they identified a problem that I'm not going to address in the way they say I should, but I pay attention to the fact that they found a problem that's real. And I have to find another way to address that problem. That's it, that's a big thing is not is looking at the notes that you get as indications of an issue or a problem, but not necessarily a solution. The solution usually comes from within the writer. And at least that's what we found is that, you know, you're the expert on on your own screenplay. But that doesn't mean if somebody has an issue with something that you've written that they're wrong. And you know, what's hard about rewriting is that you grow very attached to the things that you love. And there may be things that you've written that you love, but that doesn't mean they belong in the script. You know, the idea is the only thing sacred in a script is the idea. And the movie is something that you have to find. And you have to often let things go along the way that are really, really valuable things. But if they don't serve the story and the way that they need to serve the story, it's a mistake to have it to have it be in a screenplay. screenplays have to be very efficient. You know, we people aren't reading novels, when they're reading screenplays, they're reading a schematic for a movie, they're reading something that has to really hold together like a movie, you're not going to get the same patience, and you're not going to get the same consideration that you might get for when you're reading a novel. So you have to be efficient. And you know, that means doing everything you can to service the idea and often, you know, that's why rewriting is so hard because you've already put the work in you know, you're you don't want to throw good money after bad or as they say, so I think you have to be prepared to let some stuff go It's kind of, I think, you know, the Prime Directive, when you're, you know, when you finished your script and you're giving it to someone to read, it's don't lose the reader. That's really job number one is don't lose the reader, you have to recognize that anyone who's reading your script has 50 other scripts that they have to read. So any excuse that you give them to be able to put your script aside and pick up one of the other ones they're going to take. So you can't lose the reader. And if anyone tells you, you know, your your girlfriend, or your boyfriend or your child tells you, I read it, but I, you know, on page seven, I lost interest because of x, you should pay very close attention. Because maybe not your child, maybe not your child. But yeah, you don't want to lose the reader and anything that can help you to retain the interest of your reader from page one to page 105 is worth very, very serious consideration.

Alex Ferrari 1:01:04
As Stephen King says, Kill your darlings.

David Diamond 1:01:06
Kill Your Darlings,

Alex Ferrari 1:01:07
Kill your darlings. Now you and you guys, when you guys write, you write more than one script at a time, or you just stay focused on one script at a time.

David Weissman 1:01:13
Well, we often are writing two things at a time, because of the particular way that we work, we figure out our ideas together in great detail. But we do most of our writing separately until the very end of the process when we sit side by side at the computer. So for that time, when we're writing, we can each be writing. So we try to be working on two things at a time typically.

Alex Ferrari 1:01:41
So are you kind of like the Elton John model of like, you guys both go off and write your own thing and then come together and see if it works, and then kind of work it that way. Well, we're not writing our own thing, we're within the idea with the idea within the idea you're not writing anything.

David Weissman 1:01:54
Well, we outline together. And so that process is also so by the by the time we're ready to write, we were writing off a pretty detailed outline that includes a lot of character and scene work in the outline. So but yes, that we only actually will write together the computer at the very end. So there is you know, it gives us I think it keeps things exciting and interesting for us. It allows us to sort of express our individual voices. And it also allowed us throughout our career, to be able to take on a wider variety of projects, because we each have strengths. And so there are certain things that we could do because it played to one or the other strength. So yeah, it's been helpful to us, it's allowed us to work more efficiently as well.

Alex Ferrari 1:02:52
Now I'm going to ask you a few questions I asked all of my guests about what advice would you give a screenwriter wanting to break into the business today?

David Weissman 1:03:02
Well, one thing that I would say and I would say to be very, very careful about is, don't it's going to be very hard to resist this temptation. But do not send your script to somebody in a position to help you until that script is ready, and you are 1,000% sure it's ready. These opportunities are so rare. They're so precious. It's the most precious thing you have. And so I know, I know that people coming up today have contests and they have, they have different mechanisms that maybe we didn't have. But there is nothing as precious as the opportunity to impress somebody in a position to help you. Please don't do it until your screenplay is ready. That is those really are the most precious things you'll you'll ever get those opportunities and picking up on something that you said earlier, Alex, don't just write one screenplay. You know, I mean, don't don't come out here thinking that I have an idea for a movie. I'm gonna write the screenplay. And when I am done, my phone's gonna be ringing off the hook. And I'm going to have opportunities galore,

Alex Ferrari 1:04:19
One year tops, one year tops one year.

David Diamond 1:04:22
This is this is you know, understand that this is unlikely to happen. And be okay with it. And take your time and write as many screenplays as you need to write until you arrive at the one that is actually going to do for you what you're hoping it will do for you. And as we say in the book, you know, keep going as long as you're not doing harm to yourself or others and as long as you continue to have a desire to do it. You know, when we were when we were just starting out a friend called and said I want to do this how long should I Give it well, if you're asking how long I should give it and you know you're over, it's over before you started, you can't be asking that that question, you have to really want to do it. And you just have to keep going until you achieve your goal or until you just don't have the desire anymore.

Alex Ferrari 1:05:18
It's the five to 10 year plan, not the 12 to 18 month plan.

David Weissman 1:05:22
That's correct. I think that's that's a reasonable amount of time to think it might take.

Alex Ferrari 1:05:28
Now, can you tell me the book that had the biggest impact on your life or career?

David Weissman 1:05:35
Well, for sure, for us, it's adventures in the screen trade by wood comes up often? Well, because it's so rare that you read something that is both a guide to doing something and an expression of the greatest way that it can be done. And you know, what, what William Goldman did in that book is he really gave you a flavor for what it's like to be in this business and, and, and how crazy it is and how joyful it is. And at the same time, I think you know, told you how to do it, if you if you read it in the right way. And I think we learned from that book, probably more than anything else. At least that's the one for me. What about anything else that we have the most influential, I would say the Bible written?

Alex Ferrari 1:06:28
Is that the first part or second part?

David Weissman 1:06:32
That's the thing. You know, you know what? Ironically, we there's great stories in the Bible, and there's been many movies. Yes. Talk about creating a world I it's true.

Alex Ferrari 1:06:48
Talk about world creations. I mean, jeez, the antagonist alone in that, in that book. Anyway, um, what lesson took you the longest to learn whether in the film industry or in life? Oh, man, these are my Oprah questions, I apologize ahead of time. If you were a tree, what kind of

David Weissman 1:07:08
If i were a fruit I would be a peach, um, you know, to me, the the lesson that I'm that sort of resonates with me the most is that you really do have to try to enjoy the process as you go along. And you know, it's the victories aren't always going to come, they really sometimes they come sometimes they don't come. We've had the great good fortune to be writing partners for many, many years. And best friends for even longer. We enjoy every day that we get together and do this. It's a blessing. It's something that, you know, has has, has taken me through the good times and the bad times. And so the lesson is, enjoy it, love it, love the doing of it, the results, you know, they may come or they may not they may not come but you haven't wasted your time if you've loved the process. Yeah, and I would say along similar lines. The most valuable lesson that I have learned from this is don't define yourself, by your circumstances. You know, all of us go through struggles, whether you know, we're not yet professional screenwriters, while we're proficient professional screenwriters, there are struggles every day. You know, screenwriter is what we do, it's not who we are. So you have to see yourself as a whole person with a job to do take the work seriously. But don't take yourself too seriously. And, and recognize the difference between what you do and who you are. It can be very, very depressing, when the work is hard or when it's not coming to you. If that's if your entire identity is wrapped up in what you're doing. But if you know who you are, and you have other aspects of your life that are meaningful to you, then that will probably be reflected in your work, it will probably only enhance

Alex Ferrari 1:09:24
Was there was there an obstacle or fear that each of you had to overcome in order to succeed in this in this business? Because there is so much fear and imposter syndrome and all these kind of things that we kind of, you know, we are the worst enemy. We have our own mindsets, our worst enemy. Was there anything for you early on, or even later? And maybe during the process of being a professional that you had to kind of overcome to keep going?

David Weissman 1:09:50
No, I think for me, I probably was afraid of not being successful at this, but at a certain point there was a sort of creative survival instinct that kicked in, where the desire to be good at it and to actually understand it overcame the desire just to be successful at it. And so the lessons of screenwriting started to penetrate in such a way that we were able to become successful, even though the driving the driving force wasn't the ambition, the driving force was doing it. Right. That was, you know, how do we do this? Right. That was the question that we were that we were asking and and how do you do it? Right. It's a more important question than how do you succeed because ultimately, you succeed by doing it right.

Alex Ferrari 1:10:50
Would you agree, David? I wasn't listening to what he said. So. Yes. And now the toughest question of all three of your favorite films of all time.

David Weissman 1:11:03
Oh, geez. We should be ready for that one, right. As of right neighbor joint film like that we both love so much is probably Tootsie

Alex Ferrari 1:11:15
Yes. comes up. Yeah.

David Weissman 1:11:18
I would I you know, for me, probably because I'm gonna limit it to comedies. Sure, because I think I can't choose three. So probably Ghostbusters and stepbrothers for me.

Alex Ferrari 1:11:32
A new one. Yeah. newer one. That's a great film.

David Diamond 1:11:35
Stepbrothers never disappoints. It's so good and and stripes for sure. I'd throw diner in there as like a herd of Ark growing up and and the graduate and also you know, I have as a nod to the brief film school education I had the bicycle thief if you don't cry it that one.

David Weissman 1:12:04
All the President's Men and and the Godfather Part Two. Now you

Alex Ferrari 1:12:09
Now it's just not getting out of hand. It's getting out of hand. Guys.

David Weissman 1:12:13
What are your three favorite?

Alex Ferrari 1:12:15
It would be Shawshank Redemption, Fight Club. Oh, wow. Okay, and the matrix. Wow. Yeah, those are three that always kind of stay in the top five, it will kind of vary, and there's many other ones I have. But those three that always kind of like, that's a good round of kind of where my sensibilities lie. Is comedies go? I think Ghostbusters airplane. I mean, I can't. I mean, how can you not watch airplane and just piss yourself all Blazing Saddles. I mean, yeah. How can you not

David Weissman 1:12:48
Like now I want to put all those on my list

Alex Ferrari 1:12:50
Spaceballs. I mean, how can you not watch it? And if you're a star, a Star Wars fan? Like how can you not enjoy Spaceballs? I mean, come on impossible question. That's why I said it's the toughest question of all of them. Yeah. Now where can people find out more about the book, where they can buy and where they can find more about your work.

David Diamond 1:13:06
The book you can buy at this point pretty much anywhere it comes out on May 1, you can pre order it on Amazon, I'm sure by the time this airs, you can just get it on Amazon also on mwp.com. Shares Michael Wheezy publications and you can get it from their website. You can get it in brick and mortar stores, Barnes and Noble.

Alex Ferrari 1:13:27
Bookstores are well defined books are sold, where we're

David Diamond 1:13:31
Here and abroad. And you can visit us also online at bulletproofscript.com. And you can order the book through there as well. And yeah,

David Weissman 1:13:42
Or come to our houses.

Alex Ferrari 1:13:45
Our address are

David Weissman 1:13:48
And you can just leave some money, right, slip it under the door, and I will hand it

Alex Ferrari 1:13:55
Slipped through the mail slot. I appreciate you guys, it has been an absolute joy talking to you today. Thank you so much for dropping some amazing knowledge bombs on the tribe today. I truly, truly appreciate all your wisdom, your laughter and your information today. So thank you so much.

David Diamond 1:14:11
It's been a pleasure. Thank you.

David Weissman 1:14:13
Thank you.

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IFH 645: Directing as a Team & NOT Killing Each Other with Vanessa & Joseph Winter

Vanessa and Joseph Winter are a writer/director duo best known for their critically acclaimed SXSW midnighter “Deadstream,” a horror comedy coming to Shudder in October. They also wrote and directed a segment of the highly anticipated V/H/S/99 which will have its world premiere at the Toronto International Film Festival.

Their feature debut, Deadstream, has been getting rave reviews since it debuted at SXSW (it’s at 91% on Rotten Tomatoes). The film is about a disgraced internet personality who tries to win back followers by live-streaming himself alone at a haunted house. The whole thing takes place in real-time and is a found-footage style film with the bonkers horror-comedy feel of early Sam Raimi. It’s a funny satire of social personalities and a creepy, supernatural flick. It impressively balances the mixture of tones.

They also have a segment in the latest entry to the V/H/S/ series, V/H/S/99. It premiered at TIFF, with many critics citing their segment “To Hell And Back” as a highlight. Like Deadstream, it mixes horror with comedy and is filled with horrific, practical creatures.

Vanessa and Joseph met in film school and have worked together ever since. Before shifting to focus on writing/directing/acting, the duo cut their teeth doing everything from art direction to score composition to costumes to production design to editing. They have an interesting story about getting these projects off the ground that feels like a great fit for the podcast. Joseph also listens to Indie Film Hustle and was excited to be part of the show!

Please enjoy my conversation with Vanessa & Joseph Winter.

Joseph Winter 0:00
We made that stream as a huge swing, everything about it, we put everything on the line for the movie. Why would we stop doing that right now when this guy is telling us there is a shot, a small shot, but a shot. So we came back and said, Alright, let's do it. Let's talk to the sales agent, we withdrew from the past that we had like some of the small ones we've been accepted to. And we just, he, the sales agent started submitting for us, which is how most festivals are programmed. And

Vanessa Winter 0:30
It sounds it sounds dumb, but it was so nerve wracking because we'd had some offers for distribution. And I felt like, you know, if we pull out of the fall festivals, which is very genre friendly, there's a chance that nobody we get rejected from the bigger festivals, and nobody just ever sees our movie.

Alex Ferrari 0:48
This episode is brought to you by the best selling book, Rise of the Filmtrepreneur how to turn your independent film into a money making business. Learn more at filmbizbook.com. I like to welcome to the show Vanessa and Joseph Winter. How're you guys doing?

Joseph Winter 1:03
Great Alex!

Alex Ferrari 1:06
Thank you so much for coming on the show, guys. I have not had a couple, like a romantic couple of filmmakers ever on the show. So I was intrigued by that. And then the horror aspect was also more intriguing. And then the image that you guys sent. I was like, Well, I mean, I gotta have gone now. I mean, that picture's worth 1000 words right there. So it's no, it's really good. I'm really glad to meet you. I'm fascinated with you guys. I want to I want to find out how all of this happened. First, the first question is, how did you guys meet? How did you guys get together decide to go? You know what we should do? We should be horror filmmakers together. Let's do. Like, I want to know what that conversation was.

Joseph Winter 1:48
When we very first met and never crossed my mind that this is my horror filmmaking buddy for the rest of my life. But it was so we were in film school

Vanessa Winter 1:58
At the same time. It was so natural.

Joseph Winter 2:00
Yeah, it was total natural progression, like really quickly. But I was in a film class. It was like the first film class you take when you get into the program. And Vanessa was in the class we'd never talked, she came up to me after class one day said, I'm the production designer of a senior capstone project. You feel like a great fit for the art director to work under me. How do you feel about that? And that was the first time we'd really spoke. And I mean, it was all it was because I found out later everyone else said no, but I was really grateful for that. Because it was I mean, she was really awesome. And we got along really great. And then I talked her into loving whore. I mean, it wasn't hard, but she hadn't been exposed to, like, you know, the stuff that I'm into.

Vanessa Winter 2:46
Yeah, yeah, I was always into horror. But film school really was my introduction to cinema. I grew up in a small town, my family was like very conservative with what we could watch. And so in college, took my first film class. And immediately I fell into the genre lane of horror and sci fi and so I feel like us deciding oh, we're gonna make more movies for the rest of our lives. Easy. That was an easy that was way easier than should we have kids. Yeah. Yeah.

Alex Ferrari 3:17
Well, I have to ask you, because I'm married. I have kids. How in God's green earth do you guys balance the family life, you know, in the in the relationship with the filmmaker, because both are fairly stressful. And both are horror shows. If you have

Vanessa Winter 3:37
Perfect description, like I, we, I mean, we were like, we've been hustling to become narrative filmmakers for like 10 years together, working lots of different corporate jobs, commercial jobs, doing the whole whole thing that everybody does. And then we got pregnant at the same, like, got pregnant had a baby. We made a feature almost immediately afterward. Like I was getting up at 3am writing scripts, like the baby's like four weeks old. And then we made a movie almost finished it. We'd almost finished filming it and then got pregnant by accident. And so then we had a baby and then we finished our movie and then we may were part of VHS and like it's honestly we just run around all day screaming and then collapse at night.

Joseph Winter 4:25
It's really like I don't really know how to answer it because this is like when dead string production was actually going to happen and I still had a full time corporate job that was just looming over the whole thing is like how and I still looking back and like okay, I can see how we squeezed by with like having a little baby and stuff but it's like I don't have the model to teach somebody how to do that. Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 4:48
It's there's an I've said this so many times in the show. We're all insane and it's in there as insanity to do what we do. But you guys are a little different. You're a little you're your next level insane. Uh, because I mean, you've gone to another place, you've transcended the insanity of just making a film. You got into relationship, you have kids, and while you're having kids, you're like, oh, but my film, like, like, these are the thoughts that go through your head. It's fascinating. And it is just a testament to your love of what you guys do. And is there in the relationship? Is there anyone who's grounded? Are you both psychotic? Because I'm the psycho Drake crazy one in my relationship? And my wife to grounded was like, no, no, we're not going to do that. And we kind of balanced each other out a little. Because if it was two of me, I don't know why would self destruct. So I'm curious how that dynamic works. And you're and you're

Joseph Winter 5:40
Crazy about different things. I think that's how it works. Like, sometimes I get really scared at the scope that Vanessa will pitch about something where she's like, No, I really think we can do this. And it's like, that's not possible. So I start to panic. And that pragmatic kind of says,

Vanessa Winter 5:56
I'm like crazy like bite off more than you can chew person. But I've got a more chill energy where Joseph Scott, the performer, like, he's got the excitement, but also the like, anxiety, things are going wrong. Kind of like the even person, but I've definitely got, yeah, like, he was just saying, my own set of crazy where he's like, what, like, it's very the beginning of projects, I get super amped that's like, my, my place and Joseph's like, okay, but like, for real? Yeah, real, what's good?

Joseph Winter 6:30
There's plenty of crazy crossover, though, where we're not compatible, like we just aren't. And we're still trying to figure that out. So

Vanessa Winter 6:36
Yeah, sometimes there's too much crazy.

Alex Ferrari 6:39
I could see that. I can see that without question. So how did you guys, you just said that you guys have been going, you know, 10 years? And that's kind of the number I throw out to people like, how long is it going to take like, starting points? 10 years? Just, that's how you got to look at it. You got to just you're gonna be grinding for 10 years to make something happen for yourself? How did you guys keep going? I always love asking that question. Because I mean, everyone's different, unlike what you mentally had to tell yourselves. And you hate each other, which is a blessing. But most of us don't. We're alone. We're, you know, the filmmakers by themselves. And, you know, I tried quitting 1000 times. But I can't because because it's a disease and you can't get rid of it. And it's done. So how did you guys keep going? What did you like? Did you guys help each other out? Did you Did one is like, I can't do this anymore? The other one's like, no, no, we got to keep going. And vice versa? How did it work?

Joseph Winter 7:32
I'm genuinely interested in your answer. If you want to answer first,

Vanessa Winter 7:35
I was just gonna say I think you hit the nail on the head with the fact that there's a benefit with us being we're having the same insane dream. Because we there's definitely like dark nights of the soul. I guess you could call them multiple times where we are like, on the verge of like tears like, can we actually make this happen? Like, what what are we doing with all of our time and money? depressions, but I think that, yeah, the nice thing about being in it together is that and I feel like, the risks are a little bit easier maybe than for somebody that's like in a partnership where the other person is like, You're crazy. You're taking things too far, like for a relationship or, you know, financially or something where we kind of, yeah, we had the same crazy dream. So when it was like, should we mortgage our house to make our first feature? We're like, Yeah,

Joseph Winter 8:32
Yeah, let's do it. Yeah. So the essential part, oh,

Alex Ferrari 8:37
By the way, everyone, listen, don't do that.

Joseph Winter 8:40
That's what I tell. That's what I tell people, like, don't do what we did. It just so happened to have worked. In our case, it's not a good business model, like, but but in order to feel good about what we did, to get dead stream off the ground, we needed 10 years of like, for me, changing my value system. Like honestly, if I right out of film school had had the opportunity to do a feature. There's some version of that where I would have imploded just looking back because the thing I was valuing, valuing at the time, was getting the filmmaker being in my 20s and trying to rise to the top and like, things that don't mean that much to me anymore. And as we were going along in our life started to change to like, Okay, I'm approaching my 30s. Does that actually matter to me? Is there a version where that doesn't like, can I just make a movie when I want to, like, the kind of movie I want to and I started to remove like the superficial stuff, or the things that were separate for the love of from the love of the craft and the things that I actually wanted to engage in. And that really helped not feel so panicked about the years burning by and having not made a feature. So I mean, that's how, for me, that's how when we got to the point of like, Hey, should we open up some 0% interest credit cards and like go for it was like, Okay, I feel like I've got a good foundation now of like what's important to me and we're not willing to sacrifice everything in order to do it. Like we're going to try to balance the family and stuff and then it just finally made sense.

Alex Ferrari 10:14
Well, it can and I'm imagining you guys had the same conversation that we all do at 23 year like, Shit, I didn't make my feature Orson Welles did 2020 sevens like Spielberg made Jaws at 27 I'm just jacking around right here, let the hell that's exactly what I'm talking Tarantino made the reservoir when he was like 31 Like, and that just the number just keeps creeping up until you're like, well, Ridley Scott didn't make it to 40. So that's like, Yeah, but he did 4000 videos, music videos and commercials prior to that. So that's you lose, you're getting loosey goosey. But did you have that conversation with yourself? As well as that as that time gets cooking away?

Vanessa Winter 10:51
Absolutely. For sure. I've got like, I've got an issue with like, my like, I don't know what you call it the like, the life clock ticking away, where I get really freaked out about time passing by Joseph's a little cooler about it.

Joseph Winter 11:07
No. But that took effort, though, because I just made a decision that was you know, earlier than you about the I'm going to be at peace about the clock aspect and just just have some faith that at you know, when I'm in the right mental place, and you know, things will just happen at the right time if we just keep healthily working at it and not sacrificing like our health and things along the way. But yeah, that was always there, man. I'm also pretending right now that it stopped mattering to me. But you know, it always matters.

Alex Ferrari 11:39
I love the neuroses that's going on here, you're in this conversation, because you're just kind of like, this is really getting inside the mind of the insanity of a filmmaker. And this is not what they teach at school, they don't never did that they teach you about you're going to be Spielberg, you're going to be the next Nolan. Here. Look, we're going to teach you how to make $100 million movie, no one ever in film school is teaching you look, it's going to be 10 years of grinding, you're going to want to break psychologically multiple times a day, you're going to probably go bankrupt a couple of times, you probably lose relationships, like I mean, they don't tell you all these things. But this is what the truth of it is. So I'm so glad that you guys are being so raw and honest about this process for people listening, because I hope it helps wake some people up to like the realities of this. And the other thing I wanted to ask you is because as a filmmaker myself, like I, my wife, and I've taken strategic, you know, risks through my filmmaking career. At the beginning, I threw credit cards and almost went bankrupt and all that kind of stuff at the very early beginning of it. But as I got older, we're like, okay, let's strategically, how are we going to do this without a family? The second the kids came into the picture, it changes things, but it seems like you were able to balance having kids, because it's one that you guys could eat ramen mean? Probably not. Now, I mean, you don't want to, but you know, you can. You don't want to, but you could, you know, but now when you have kids, it's a different responsibility. How do you balance the insanity of the dream with the responsibility of a family?

Vanessa Winter 13:13
I think, I think for me, like I almost experienced what you did backwards, where I think I had, I kind of had this thing coming out of film school where I didn't, and maybe it's because I'm a woman, but I had this feeling of like, I didn't go to school for a hobby. So I kind of had this overcompensating, like, I'm gonna get this corporate job, and I'm gonna make enough money while I'm also chasing my dreams so that I could show that I can, like make a living. And there was something about having my first baby where I was kind of like, oh, like, this is it, like, I am going to make a feature now, or it's never going to happen. And so I got a little bit more crazy and risk taking where I started putting like child care on a credit card where I didn't have I had never done that before, like, spend credit card money on. I mean, besides some student films, like but really, I hadn't been really doing that. So that for me was kind of like the switch went off, where I just started saying no to all of my comfort, like commercial clients, or most of them and was just like, I'm going to do this thing. Because if I don't, I'm going to regret it, even if it goes badly. So that's, that's where I was.

Joseph Winter 14:23
I'm really interesting. I mean, this happened for both of us. But the thing that I like to tell people about having our kids is like before then it was 24/7 film stuff, like what we would talk about in our house, there were no boundaries. It wasn't like, Okay, at this time, we're just talking about our personal lives like film, our ideas, the things we're working on our corporate stuff, it was all just, you know, laying in bed talking about it. And when we had our daughter, there started to be some structure around it where we said at this time, which just family time like we have to, it's only fair to our family to do that. But it was so weird that once we started putting back Andres on when we would work on film, I became way more productive. My output was so much more than it had ever been. And I feel like that has stuck. So now we have that second daughter, it's the same thing, the hours of the day that we have to work are a lot more productive than they ever were before then. So there's that benefit that's come from it.

Vanessa Winter 14:23
Yeah, unfortunately, we should have discovered you earlier, Alex, and we could have made a lot of smarter decisions.

Alex Ferrari 14:26
Well, but that Well, I appreciate that. Louis, I wish I had me when I was. Imagine if a show like this existed in the 90s. You know, we peep millions and millions of dollars would have been saved relationships would have not, you know, busted at that point. I mean, less people would be in the insane asylum right now, if we kind of information back then. But so what were some of these mistakes that you guys made along the way that you were just like, that maybe you could talk about that other people can learn from and hopefully not fall into those same traps?

Vanessa Winter 16:02
One of my biggest things, I think, was just not saying no to anything. And same thing. Yeah. And yeah, I think that with your, like, I think the advice that you give like having multiple legs of your business, I guess you could call it is a really smart thing to do. But I think you don't want to have like 40 legs to your business, you don't want to feel like you're missing out. Because you're not working with this producer, you're not like letting go some of your clients or whatever it is. And I think that I just had that for a long time where I was overworking. Just overworking for not enough money. And then creatively, I kind of had the same problem where I always wanted to be a horror filmmaker. And with doing that you you take like, just in the nature of horror, you take big swings, and you isolate a certain amount of audience. And I think that there were when I would do my own creative, like projects, I like a short film or something I would have in mind, like, oh, but if my commercial clients saw this, like, couldn't help me out and like both ways. And as soon as I just started really writing and making the things that were purely Vanessa, I guess you could call them they're just weird and, and just what I wanted to do, that's when audiences started responding, or that's when I started getting into festivals and ended up finding my management. And so I think, yeah, I think specifically for me, there was a lot of mistakes and just not being focused enough.

Alex Ferrari 17:38
And it sounds like you it sounds like you did the same thing I did. I think I think every filmmaker goes through this process is you find your voice. And then you have the, you know, the the kohona is, as they say, to actually put your voice out there. And that's what people are your secret sauce. That's what people are attracted to not. I'm gonna go make a Sam Raimi movie. I'm like, Well, we have Sam. He doesn't pretty well. We don't need another Sam Raimi. You know, he's, he's solid. Like, we don't need another one of him. Or a cheap copycat. But what but but there's only one, Vanessa. So that and that's and that's the thing. There's only one, Joseph. So that's that when you are able to finally put that out there is that's when I'm so glad you said that, that you're like, oh, that's when stuff started to happen. When you were brave enough to put yourself out there. I'm assuming that's the same for you, Joseph?

Joseph Winter 18:26
the thing that came to my mind is I was afraid after I mean, in college, I was afraid to make bad things. After college, I was afraid to make bad things that actually kept me from making I wish I would have made so much more things and bad things because you learn a lot when you make something that's not turning out, right. And you actually learn a lot when you make more things that are shorter. And in my mind, like the next project I was going to put my energy into was going to be a 17 minute like really ambitious thing. And I wish I would have just taken the opportunity to give myself more smaller experiences have things that I'm too ashamed to show people because I did anyway, along the way. And like that's how that's how you learn and I I'm jealous looking back at my other friends that were jumping on these like, yeah, I just got this opportunity to direct a little thing over here. It's not that good, but I'm going to do it and in my mind, I was like why would you want to have that on your reel or have that but like no, I that was a mistake you can you should make bad things you should make lots of bad things and you can curate what you show people

Alex Ferrari 19:33
I think it's the same kind of itis that we we filmmakers have they're like, well Spielberg didn't have this and you know, like, on his real I mean, on his his film, like you want your filmography to be perfect, because that's the ego inside of you going one day there'll be studying me in film school, and when they do, I can't have this crap out there. You know, kinda like that's the you laugh because both of you have thought this in your mind at one point or another because I Dude, I think all of us do because we all are insane. The filmmakers ego is oh my god it is there's the level of delusion we have. But you know what I said this the other day I was at AFM and I was on stage talking, and I said this out loud. And it was a friend of mine, who told me this, and he told me I could steal it. My friend John Kim, he said, the delusion and the skills that you need to get a movie done, hurt you after the movie is done. To try to sell it, because you can't be delusional when you're selling it. You can't be to like my movies, the greatest. Obviously the next Quinn Tarantino, why kampsen? Anybody? recognize my genius? Is that do you agree with that?

Joseph Winter 20:48
I mean, yeah, I feel like, I feel like that's for sure. True. I just right now, what you're seeing is me trying to think how if I felt that way, after we made dead stream, like if I had the healthy mindset, I will say what health is like, We're mature enough, right going into dead stream that I grew out of so much of that kind of mindset, by the time we made it, that we didn't have SXSW aspirations. When we were making dead streaming, we didn't have like, the successes of the movie, we're not the goal. Like by the time we made this, it was like very pragmatic, it was, we're going to pay for an education in learning the part of the business that most people don't talk about, or won't talk about, learn how much people are offering for a low budget movie. And like, what, just like that kind of thing. And so I mean, 10 years before, I wouldn't have made a movie that was just my best shot, but mostly for an education and mostly, you know, to just do something. So I think that's something that did help with being older and getting started with that.

Alex Ferrari 21:54
The the, the 20, the 20s version of all of us were idiots. Absolutely, of course, I didn't make a movie till I was 40. Because I was like, Well, I has to be Reservoir Dogs. It has to, like, blow everybody out of the water. Because again, my filmography is going to be taught in schools, and I can't have this kind of insanity. So

Vanessa Winter 22:18
Yeah, man, that pressure can really get to you though. Right? It's crippling, it's crippling?

Alex Ferrari 22:24
It is it because it's all self inflicted. It's completely your own delusions in your mind. I you know, I kind of asked you, why do you think we do that to ourselves? Why? Because I've never asked this question on the show before, but like, what? Who told us that that's the weight, like what isn't enough? And it's not just us? It's most filmmakers have this conversation with themselves in like, my first movie has to be this. And it has to be that and you know, and I have to be respected and it has to win into this. What is it that we can't just go out and like you did with dead stream and just go, we're just gonna go make a movie. We're going to learn about the process. And if it gets in some places it gets in some places, as opposed to this is Oscar worthy, which I've had that conversation, not me with other filmmakers who have done posts for and they're like, I'll see you at the Oscars next year. I'm like, You see, see they're all right there, buddy. All right, let me know how that works out for you.

Vanessa Winter 23:24
Man. Yeah, like I feel it. I feel like there's a there's a particular kind of crazy of filmmakers that puts you in that mindset. In fairness to filmmakers, I feel like there is a lot of when I compare it to other other art forms. There is some truth to this, like fear and feeling that everything you make could be your last. Because if you blow it bad enough, people don't want to work with you and don't want to pay like help you pay money. It's so hard to make a film just by yourself. So that does I think add to some of the pressure. Yeah, the I also hearing other writers talk, I think this may cross over to writers too, which is how crippling it is to sit down and realize that your first draft is going to be complete crap, right? And that's like a big mental hurdle. And I don't know if it's just because you're admiring other films that are so good or other books that are so good. But this idea it's really hard for the idea to sink in, that it started as bad. It's like hard to believe. Well, I tried. I believe that the first iteration of JAWS or whatever was probably bad. And it took a long time before it became jaws. One

Joseph Winter 24:49
of the biggest reasons is that's what they put in front of you at film school like they put the awesome first films in front of you. A masterpiece Yeah, about Reservoir Dogs. It's not even And technically, Tarantino is first movie. Oh, and like hearing Edgar Wright. It's like, well, you don't know this really like it's not really talked about like that. And then I heard Edgar Wright on a podcast years ago, where he talked about fistful of fingers, which he doesn't even want people to see. And I still haven't seen it. And he explains why. And I wish I would have been taught that in school, like, here are the filmmakers who made first films that either you can't see, or they don't want you to see. And then they learn from it and went on to make Shaun of the Dead or like, you know, something else like that.

Alex Ferrari 25:34
Where they don't do that that doesn't sell, doesn't sell them seats in film school. I mean, they sell the sizzle, but they don't sell the steak real well, but they sell the sizzle really, really, really well. And you know, what's fascinating is after talking to as many people as I have on the show, and speaking to like Edgar and some of these bigger, you know, Oscar winners and things like that, I've come to realize in just my own personal journey, that all of them go through the same things that we do. It's always shit at the beginning. It's always crap. They're nervous, they have to look at the same blank page you guys have to look at. And they just work it out in a different way. But it is it is, I think Hollywood puts it out there that that like the story of Rocky, that he wrote it in like, what, four, three nights or something like that, he wrote Rocky. And then like, that was the the myth like, oh, he wrote any one of the Oscar. And then years later, I saw an interview with Stallone. And he's like, Yeah, I wrote the first draft in three days, but I beat the hell out of that thing for the next six months, you know, perfecting it, you know, it's, it's that kind of delusion that's put out there. But I think that's a Hollywood thing, too. And I mean, it's been, you know, it's always been that way with this kind of the sizzle, not the steak. You know that question. So with so let me ask you a dead stream. How did you guys first of all, fantastic. It looks great, man. It's so much fun. And then I'm like, wait a minute, is that Joe? Is he the star of this too? Like, that's tough enough to do it behind the scenes, but in front of the scenes, and for in front of the camera to be able to do it all. And you're right. It's like basically, you're the show on top of it. So it's a lot of pressure on you, Joe as as a performer of that movie. Yeah, you got some ghosts and goblins and other things flying around, which are really interesting. But your funniest shit by the way, you really, really funny this funny as hell, really well produced looks nice. It looks like you know, because I've see, I see a lot of stuff. See a lot of stuff. And in the horror genre, as you know, not always is production value. But always, how did you guys decide to do like, this was the thing like, Get this thing off the ground? And then we'll talk about the South by Southwest call.

Vanessa Winter 27:51
Yeah, I think yeah, we started writing it around Joseph strengths because he can act and He is hilarious. But it did end up being really Gru grueling, and a ton of pressure. As

Joseph Winter 28:04
you I think we should like talk about why though. The reason is, like we we were trying to, we gave ourselves the creative prompt of like, what if there was a movie, no one could say no, to, if we made like, could we, in theory, make something by ourselves? And that's the thing that led us to? Well, that would of course, I would be in it. And it wasn't like, honestly, we didn't think I was great. We just thought that I could act like I had been in some of our other stuff that we had made. So it was like, okay, a given. It's me in a haunted house. Is there and nobody else is in it. Like that's kind of where what we were building off of?

Vanessa Winter 28:39
Yeah, I think we're like, originally were like $25,000 2530. Like, what could we do if we just strapped cameras to Joseph and that was kind of like, and we were kind of like simmering on that like a little bit. And then I think once it started once it started feeling like somebody who was going to go in and do a real live stream and put up extra cameras, and a movie that was going to escalate from maybe a little bit more grounded to just completely bonkers 80s Creature Feature. That's where at least I started getting really creatively excited. But then of course, the budget, like tripled. It was having to pull some shots that off. So that I guess that's its own. That's its own Genesis. As far as Joseph's role in it, it became clear, like, increasingly that how difficult it was going to be because on the on the performer, just the pressure on the performer to carry the whole movie. And as we started diving into YouTube personalities and started writing the script and refining the script. We became really scared about how hard it is actually, to talk for 90 minutes and have people care and It also made the date the influencers online a lot more of just what kind of talent and art form they've kind of honed in with this blogging style. Comedy, I would call it, I would think some of them are definitely comedic artists. So we started studying that a lot. And yeah, so it ended up being a lot of pressure for Joseph to, to deliver that kind of performance. And that kind of nuance that could actually be watchable. And even when we had a script that was super, we felt like it was really solid. We have a casual writers group with friends that we would read stuff out, read stuff with, and even when we felt like it was slain pretty well with them, we started doing some tech rehearsals and realize that the character wasn't there yet that he was just going to be unwatchable. So anyway, ended up being a lot of rehearsals for Joseph. And then the technical side was also a little bit unexpected. Just how difficult it was to operate the camera. So a lot of the movie was just me, like, not yelling at you, but like basally, directing and saying, Hey, pan that room again, but this time, 20% slower. So all of this was like while he was trying to be here. So that

Joseph Winter 31:15
was the thing that we didn't like, we had thought through a lot, we did not think through the part of operating while acting like we just didn't, I didn't. And it was a completely different thing. It was engaging a different part of my brain than the performer. And it was just incredibly difficult. And like at the time, so I had avoided actually thinking about me doing some of the emotional scenes or like, actually the weight of the movie, because I knew if I did think about it, I would clam up, I would get that paralysis before we ever made it. So I waited to think about it until we were shooting. And it really felt I just felt crashing that first day was a mess. We had to reshoot almost the whole thing. Like I just wasn't good. I wasn't on. But But yeah, I mean, thank goodness, it wasn't a studio movie, because we had, we had the ability to pop in some weekends to the same location over the next few months and do some pickups just on our own dime on you know, whenever we have a chance. So that was fortunate. And that really saved the movie.

Vanessa Winter 32:15
Yeah, so I think the missing piece as far as when we talked about starting starting the movie, it was a kind of do it yourself. But then as the script progressed in the idea got bigger, we ended up bringing on a partner, Jared Cook, who was our CO producer, and also our DP. And so this wasn't, he was so instrumental in pulling off the how seamless the camera rigs worked. Along with that he designed the interface for the chat. So he was a really big creative force. And we did we put a lot of work into the the tech rehearsals and camera tests to make sure the movie wasn't too shaky. Joseph actually had two cameras strapped to his head as the POV of the point of view camera so that we could change angle or lens length. And one of them had a little gimbal in it to help stabilize so that it wasn't a nauseating found footage. Scary Movie experience. So anyway, that's I was really happy with the way that the tech worked out in the movie, but it did put extra pressure on Joseph to camera operate. It wasn't just a it's free. It wasn't an improvised, like go back scared tell some jokes. Everything was like very finely tuned with timing and where he was looking and how to access very precise

Joseph Winter 33:46
film.

Alex Ferrari 33:47
I'm exhausted and I didn't even make this movie. I mean, just what you explain. I'm like, oh my god, I'm tired already. Well, let me ask you. So like, how many days you guys shoot?

Joseph Winter 33:59
That is hard now. Because of all the partial stuff. But the first we did seven days back to back as our main principle. And then there were a few pickets. I think the way last time we calculated probably ends up at 14 or 15 days when it was all said and done

Alex Ferrari 34:15
with the pickups and things that you just put back into what was so I always like to ask him this question. You know, we're all you know, we all are on set. And there's always that one day that you feel the entire thing is going to come crashing down around you as directors. I'm assuming that happened every day, probably every hour of every day. Was there the one thing that you just like, I don't think we're gonna make it. How what was that thing and how did you overcome it?

Joseph Winter 34:37
What should we choose? But,

Vanessa Winter 34:39
man for me, for me it was day one. And maybe it's because I as like the director that was behind monitor. The schedule was more on my shoulders. But we had a huge windstorm that came through the very first day and blew off all of our makeshift duva teen on the outside of the house. which

Joseph Winter 35:00
was like to cover the entire house so that we could shoot during the day. We ended

Vanessa Winter 35:05
up like spending hours and hours repairing that and then by the time we got our first shot off, just the morale wasn't there, the character hadn't really vibed yet. And we got the camera Tech, we realized even with all of our tests, it just I mean, they're not action cameras are not cinema cameras. So the consistency, there's just a lot of surprises. And we thought we were going to shoot the whole movie in six days. Oh, man, it's so scary. Like, Jesus night for me, which is like coming home late. And just we only had a couple hours asleep anyway, but I just remember just sitting like awake the whole time being like, how are we going to pull this off? Oh, that's what we that was the worst. I think that was the darkest. We

Joseph Winter 35:50
literally sat in this office. It was like, man, it's like 17 hours after showing up for the shoot. And we were sitting here literally saying, How are we going to save the movie? Because it was like this is going to crash and burn. We're not even gonna finish making it. It's not. And then what we finished we will never show anybody because I did so bad that first day. But yeah, so I agree with her first day.

Alex Ferrari 36:14
Well, I mean, if it makes you feel any better, when I did my first big film, a hurricane came and in Florida and flooded our sets. Completely, of course, so we decided to write it into the script. That's good. I mean, I wrote it into like, like, Oh, and also FEMA decided to set up at the hospital that we're at 10,000 people outside online getting food and water while we're trying to shoot a movie in the basement of this like working slash abandoned hospital. So like we just like yeah, write it in, man. We can't What do we gotta do? We have no money. Let's so lesson for everyone listening that sometimes you got to write it in.

Vanessa Winter 37:03
That's, that's hero status. You have to keep making movie.

Alex Ferrari 37:09
Again, the insanity of what we do. It's not that's like hey, maybe maybe we shouldn't do this. No, that never crossed our mind is like we got trucks out here. There's a dolly we're shooting on the Panasonic dv x 100 A mini DV the best film camera ever made in the world. I mean, you gotta go, gotta go. I even had the adapter for the wide angle we have to go. This was happening. This was happening. It was five days of Oh my god. Anyway, that's a whole other story. If you guys had a chance to go back in time to talk to both of yourselves. At the beginning of this insanity, what will be the one thing you would tell them?

Joseph Winter 37:55
Would it be the beginning of the dead stream insanity or Oh,

Alex Ferrari 37:58
no, no, no, no, the entire journey of this 10 year odyssey to get to where you are right now. At the beginning you're at film school, both of you and you. And all of a sudden you Marty McFly it in and you just walk in and just go dice. I'm from the future. I can't tell you much. But I can tell you this one thing I need you to

Joseph Winter 38:19
do, I would say chill the eff out and, like adjust expectations. This is like getting in touch with the love of the craft and life. And then let's talk making an actual feature length film. So like that was the thing if you would have told me back then 15 years later, your first movie comes out or whatever. I would have imploded and like I wish I could go back and just say don't implode, like be okay with that.

Vanessa Winter 38:50
I think I would have been like look myself in the eyes and be like, you're never going to be good at commercials. You know, you're never going to be good at commercials just go make horror movies.

Alex Ferrari 39:01
Unless there's horror crime here so for commercials you

Vanessa Winter 39:04
know, I've actually done some of those and that was a lot of fun. I guess it's not like a whole thing it's just a cardinal so

Alex Ferrari 39:13
every once in a blue moon you get

Joseph Winter 39:15
you get to play like that.

Alex Ferrari 39:17
Well you know when you guys when you guys work do you guys work together as a team like besides dead stream like how do you direct on set? Do you guys work as a team? And if you do how what like how do you I always fascinated by teams of directors like what do you guys do? Do you mean do you like know what each other's thinking? Are you calling brother ring it like how are you doing it?

Joseph Winter 39:37
Yeah, so what we say like usually, I mean I'm usually in front of the cameras so far and what we've done and because of that we do a lot of pre pro so that when we show up like a lot of like storyboarding with our iPhones and like making sure that the decisions as much as possible. Get made before we show up that way there is less likely of the friction of having a completely different idea for something, which will still happen. Because no matter how much you prepare things are different.

Vanessa Winter 40:10
Yeah, I don't think we're on like the Coen brother level yet. Actually, I haven't seen them direct. So I don't know what it's like. But if we realize on set that we've been imagining something completely different, then we just kind of argue it out. And our Luckily, our crews have kind of gotten used to it. But we'll just sit there and be like, Are you sure you want it to be over the shoulder like, not a two shot, and we'll just argue the pros and cons and tell somebody's out loud in

Alex Ferrari 40:34
front of the children or you.

Joseph Winter 40:38
on VHS 99, we made a goal to not do that like to, we'll be like, hey, sidebar, and then we would go last very long. But like we we started that way with the sidebar, but then it was like it was so crazy with the schedules, and we decided there wasn't time. So we just had to say like, after a take, I just be like yelling over the camera like, hey, wherever she was hiding. And we would just argue it out like that. So we're working on that.

Alex Ferrari 41:03
That's, you don't you don't argue for the children, that the children being the crew, you can't do that. Oh, like but apparently they figured out that mom and dad are fighting special

Joseph Winter 41:13
crew is the same crew as dead stream. So by that point, they felt like our actual children, and they were great.

Alex Ferrari 41:19
Mom and Dad are fighting again, let's just take a break. Now, what did you do with dead stream is a horror, comedy. horror comedies are not easy. They're arguably one of the most difficult things to do in that genre. Because you got to balance how much comedy versus how much horror. I mean, Sam is the SAM is the master of that. I mean, you Evil Dead or Army of Darkness is, is beautifully balanced. And I think you guys did a really great job here. But how do you in the creative process? Think? Should we throw a gag in here or scare in here? Like how? How do you balance that out?

Vanessa Winter 42:00
I always say a lot of like when I think about the process. It's a lot of trial and error. So yeah, lots of lots of rewrites in the script. And then I think on set, there's moments of feeling like, you know what, I think even if we have to cut this joke that we love, I think it's most important that this scene is scary. So we'll make those kinds of decisions. And then I think it still really finds itself and post. Yeah. test audiences are really helpful. And there is sound design, like also transformed our movie because we were able to really lean into okay, this is this is scary, like moment, do we need to cut some dialogue? really emphasize the scare with sound. But yeah, it was just kind of a it's kind of a crapshoot.

Joseph Winter 42:49
Yeah. If you if you were to read the draft, if you were to read what we thought we were making, when we set out to make Devstream, so a lot more jokey. I mean, our movie is very comedy. But on the page, there were more little gags and jokes and longer monologues that we thought were funny that weren't actually funny. And like, by the, the version, you see now is way more scary than what was on the page. And that's because of the editing. Like we actually shot it pretty true to what that was on the page. But then we refined it and post and it was like test screenings, and just feeling it out with different people. Or we finally were able to realize, yeah, this is like too many jokes in this moment. This needs to be scary. So I would say the secret sauce so far was has been post production.

Vanessa Winter 43:36
Yeah, we also kind of benefited from being two brains where I think because Joseph was the performer, he could really focus on the moment and the comedy in the moment. And I was very focused on things, the tension, and the scares that I wanted. I was thinking about the movie a little bit more as a whole. And so that yeah, unlike the super brain of Sam Raimi, we have to I don't

Alex Ferrari 44:04
know, he's, he's not he's not human. Obviously. He actually opened up the book. And that's how he that's just the way it is. Now, I always love asking this question, especially you guys now that I know the backstory of dead stream. You submitted all these film festivals. And we all do it. Well, you know, we all going to submit to the lottery ticket of Sundance slam dance South by Toronto, the top five or 10 and then you get a call from South by Southwest. What was that like for you guys? Considering that wasn't the delusion? At the beginning of this process? You were just like, oh, let's just I'm assuming you just like let's just see what happens kind of vibe, right?

Joseph Winter 44:47
Let me actually tell you about the delusion. So like we weren't, we were so like, we we were so non delusional about

Vanessa Winter 44:55
I hated Phil, like, at least for me like I had a thing against film festivals. It's Like the rejections and lottery of it is so painful. We also live right by Sundance and go every year and it's just kind of this looming like, we don't even try. That was like my reaction to it. Like, I don't, I don't have any. I'm not even gonna have hopes that they can crush anymore. Okay. Oh, yeah,

Joseph Winter 45:19
that was That was rude towards Sunday. We love Sunday. So it was just this feeling of like, we don't belong, you know what I mean? Like, like we're not, we're not going to give them that power, we're not going to submit to the Ailis festivals. So we didn't like honestly the biggest festivals that we submitted to or the fall festivals that was like beyond fest, and there was Fright Fest and Fantasia. And those were like the long shots to us. The thing that changed the course of the movie was, we got rejected by the big ones, except beyond fest, and from Ersoy, who helps run the festival. He called us and he said, I would love to play you at beyond fest. But I think you're selling yourself short. I have a sales agent friend who could talk to you take over the festival thing that you're doing. And you could try for first quarter festival like South by Southwest, and Sundance. And we were like, no brainer, no, thanks. Like, we're not, we're not that, like we have a

Alex Ferrari 46:18
no sweet guy was.

Vanessa Winter 46:21
But it was like, What's your

Joseph Winter 46:23
angle? That's how I was feeling like, what's this guy's angle? Because he's just being too good to be true. Like, he's been so nice and so sweet. So we're

Vanessa Winter 46:31
like, what this guy does love cinema or something.

Alex Ferrari 46:34
He's like, he's not really human. No, no, no, there's none of that in film business.

Joseph Winter 46:40
But the but the thing is, like, after thinking about after we actually told him, No, we want to do world premiere at your festival. We thought, Okay, we made that stream as a huge swing, everything about it, we put everything on the line for the movie. Why would we stop doing that right now, when this guy is telling us there is a shot a small shot, but a shot? So we came back and said, All right, let's do it. Let's talk to the sales agent, we withdrew from the path that we had, like some of the small ones we've been accepted to. And we just he the sales agent started submitting for us, which is how most festivals are programmed. And

Vanessa Winter 47:19
it sounds it sounds dumb, but it was so nerve wracking because we had had some offers for distribution. And I felt like, you know, if we pull out of the fall festivals, which is very genre friendly, there's a chance that nobody we get rejected from the bigger festivals, and nobody just ever sees our movie. And these offers kind of go away. And so yeah, I was pretty nervous. So this is all leading up to your question of the call from,

Alex Ferrari 47:45
by the way, what were the what were the offers? Were they any good? Or were they pretty predatory? Or they were like solid or No,

Joseph Winter 47:51
I have strong feelings. I feel like I usually say the strongest version of this, which is very predatorial in my mind. Now here's the thing, I wouldn't have known that if I hadn't listened to indie film hustle, because I had no frame of reference. But you talk about the predatorial distribution industry. And so that was on my brain. When I saw we got this very big distribution company that started talking to us after the beyond fest offer. And we were so excited. We're like, if we have their name on our movie, oh my god,

Alex Ferrari 48:21
I without you saying it. I know who it is. And we won't say it publicly. But when we stop recording, I'm going to ask you, and I'll tell you who it is. I know who it is. Go ahead.

Joseph Winter 48:30
You probably do. And it was so it was so low and it was just deflating, and I felt offended but also might be offended at this like it's just a stupid movie. And so basically from that to like, with the sales agent using the South by Southwest like behind the scenes, hey, let's have exclusive negotiations to like shutter it's a completely different Oh, like it's it's not even close.

Alex Ferrari 48:59
So so you get so you get into South by and we'll get to the phone call in a second. But you your sales agents, you know, working behind the scenes to negotiate a good deal for you because now you're in South by and now it's a conversation and because you're going to premiere it South by hey, let's talk to shutter now. You want to make a deal before this goes out? Because once this goes once this premieres this is going to be a feeding frenzy. Let's Let's Make a Deal beforehand. Is that kind of that was kind of the vibe.

Vanessa Winter 49:28
Yeah, it was for a little bit more detail. It was going out to some big some big people first so like shutter Netflix Blumhouse and seeing what they thought and seeing is there any is there any chance of kind of creating not like a bidding war but like a friendly version of that. And then when it didn't seem like that was going to happen. It was a conversation of shutters offering a really good price now and they benefit from like announcing at attend a list festival. So do we go with that? Or do we take the risk of it premiering? And then trying to negotiate? And so, yeah, yeah, so we ended up. And we also, we really love shutter. And that was one of our goals at the beginning was to be on shutter, we just feel like that's where our audience was. So after talking with them and stuff, we felt like signing with them before self buy was the right decision. And we ended up being really happy with it. Today is the name of our sales agent, blue Finch. They're based out of London, I've never heard anybody have a bad experience with them. I've heard of them. And they've like, they've also handled the international sales portion, which has ended up being significant for us, which was great and unforeseen. And having somebody that's really honest and transparent. And showing you all of the deals, is just made such a huge difference. And I know it's so rare. It's so rare. What's

Alex Ferrari 51:01
your a unicorn? You guys are unicorns,

Joseph Winter 51:06
we were so aware of that this whole time. Like, we kept thinking when's the part where blue Finch is going to screw us light us and they never did. It's It has not happened, they've been such a great partner. And with the shutter thing I want to say like, the numbers made sense. There's a reason why we said alright, let's just go to shutter. This is like, we're happy with this. But a big part of that was they wanted to take care of the movie. So it was like it was a good deal. And there was that promise of we will release you in October, that week that you come out will be all about dead stream. And like they really believe in the movie got the movie where the other distribution company that we're talking about, was talking about it like just a number. It was like something they're gonna throw at the wall, see if it sticks, and then that's it. I've heard that so so we're very, we're so it's

Vanessa Winter 51:56
gonna be so rare to just in the streaming days of having a streamer that actually is passionate about your film and is planning a release and a marketing strategy. And so that was that was also just really shutter was really great. And that way.

Alex Ferrari 52:13
No, so you get the phone call what happens?

Vanessa Winter 52:16
So we actually got we actually got an email because the phone with our sales agent got the phone call since they submitted. So I saw it in the middle of the night because I woke up for some reason saw the email, and I was so excited. I was shaking and I like I woke Joseph Joseph up in the freakiest way possible, just like shaking him and shaking him. He's so confused. I finally get it out. Like what happened? I'm not kidding. He went back to sleep.

Joseph Winter 52:44
No, this is what happened. That's a dream. But it's a dream. It's a dream of

Vanessa Winter 52:47
ours by myself just eating like canned soup on the floor being like, Whoa,

Joseph Winter 52:53
check it out. We got we got rejected our entire new strategy rejected from everybody except for South by South by was like the last thing we're waiting for. So we're not going to get it in my mind. It's like, we blew it. We blew it with this whole thing. So she wakes me up by literally shaking me going. We got into stuff like that. And I was like looking at her dad died. Like, that's how I came out of my sleep is like her dad died or something.

Alex Ferrari 53:19
I'm so sorry for you.

Joseph Winter 53:22
I also as soon as I realized that it wasn't bad. In my mind. I was like your, your sleep is so precious. So I was like, Okay, I'm gonna I'm just gonna try to go back to sleep. And I did when I woke up the next day. I was like, What was I thinking going back to sleep like I I legit did not let myself feel anything.

Vanessa Winter 53:40
Like if you have a six month old baby, it makes sense. Why you Oh, no,

Alex Ferrari 53:44
no, no, no, no, no, no six month, six month old. I don't care if you would get an Oscar nomination. That's nice. I'll deal with that in the morning. But so so you but you went back to sleep knowing that you got to the south bar, or did you still think it was the dad had passed?

Joseph Winter 54:01
No. I knew as soon as it was good news. I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna go back to sleep. And like, wait, I feel this. But I woke up being like, South By

Alex Ferrari 54:11
Christmas Day. It's like Christmas day.

Joseph Winter 54:15
It was it was awesome. That's amazing.

Alex Ferrari 54:17
As I look, I'm so happy that you guys i hope this story. I mean, we've gone through the rollercoaster of emotions here from the very state of despair. To Getting to to like now look, we haven't been screwed. We're actually making money. We made a movie with your the VHS 999 coming out. You guys are off and running now and I'm so happy for you guys. And you know, it was overnight. Obviously you just this was overnight success. Obviously it was very quick. You didn't have to struggle at all through this process. You know, when is when is it? It's already out and shutter right up. Everyone can see that shame on shutter. One is one is VHS 99 Come

Joseph Winter 54:57
out. That came out in October as well. they're also both.

Alex Ferrari 55:01
And what's next? What's next for you guys?

Vanessa Winter 55:04
It's totally more horror movies. Yeah,

Alex Ferrari 55:07
nothing lined up. Like, I'm assuming you got a couple things lined up. We got a couple

Joseph Winter 55:10
of things brewing, but not ready to announce. All right, all right, but you're working on stuff. That's all. I can say horror comedy,

Alex Ferrari 55:19
for sure. Or comedy you sticking in the genre that you like, is to stay right there. I'm going to ask you a few questions. Ask all my guests. If you guys have listened to me, You know what these questions are? What advice would you give a filmmaker trying to break into the business today?

Joseph Winter 55:35
Let me tap into my memories of all the times I've imagined answering this question. I feel like I'm gonna go back to that regret of like, making not making more stuff, and just being willing to make bad things to write bad things, because that's how good things are made.

Vanessa Winter 55:54
Yeah, I would say the landscape is always changing, like things are changing so much that all the stuff I learned in film school, and I think you've said this before on your podcast, which is like all your heroes in the 90s or whatever, that stuff's not relevant anymore. So it's always carving out your own path. And I think there just is this trial and error of finding your niche, and it's going to take some time.

Joseph Winter 56:17
And also don't make 20 minute short films. They're hard to program and really short films.

Alex Ferrari 56:24
Make them short. I mean, my first film was 20 minutes and I got into 160 film festivals, but it was 2005 Less competition. I could have gone to 250 festivals if it would have been 10 minutes

Vanessa Winter 56:39
a 17 minute sci fi 3d movie it was

Joseph Winter 56:43
22 minutes it was two minutes really like 3d 3d and this was my this was my film school delusion. Like I was like that I'm going to make

Alex Ferrari 56:53
the 3d one 3d was like super hot and then you get Yeah, it was like this whole thing. We built like bricks.

Joseph Winter 57:00
Yeah, we didn't say that was when everything everything was being converted 3d And we were like, eff this let's make real 3d So that's what we did and I regret it honestly, it was like why would make a 22 minute epic thing I could have made like six things and grown as an artist Wouldn't that have been nice? That well that doesn't

Alex Ferrari 57:19
that doesn't fall into the delusion sir. What is the lesson that took you the longest to learn whether in the film business or in life?

Joseph Winter 57:26
Everything's gonna be okay when everything is going bad like literally every production big stakes small stakes, they'll end up being okay after the bad it's hard for me to still remember that but like it's true.

Vanessa Winter 57:42
Hmm. Sounds like yeah, life. Yeah, the risk when to take risks was my I think my biggest learning thing. So I think yeah, you the business requires taking risks and committing. And so by default, you're going to miss out on other things.

Alex Ferrari 58:05
All right. And three of your favorite films, which I'm assuming will be horror of all time.

Joseph Winter 58:10
Okay. For me that here's the three. We've got the shining creep show. Silver Bullet the gate Monster Squad three amigos.

Alex Ferrari 58:21
That's that's six.

Joseph Winter 58:24
You can't make me choose. I've tried.

Alex Ferrari 58:27
You were ready. You are ready for that. You are ready for the question. I appreciate that. Monster Squad. I mean, Wolfman has nartz She is you my dear.

Vanessa Winter 58:39
Um, and yeah, I'm not as prepared. I would say I love the original Alien. I think it's a perfect monster movie. Um, there's a 1979 Russian movie called Solaris, which is sci fi horror. And I think it's just beautiful and haunting. I also love from the 70s Don't look now with Donald Sutherland in Yeah, it's a great husband and wife relationship, but also just terrifying. And imagery super iconic. So I don't know if those are my favorite but those are three.

Alex Ferrari 59:15
And where can people find out more about you guys and what you guys are doing?

Joseph Winter 59:19
I'm on Twitter and Instagram at Joseph Winter VHS.

Vanessa Winter 59:25
My handle is Vanessa M is and Marie Winter.

Alex Ferrari 59:30
All right, guys. It's been such a pleasure talking to you guys. And I really hope that this conversation inspires and terrifies people all at the same time. I appreciate you continued success and congratulations on everything guys.

Vanessa Winter 59:45
Yeah, very honored to be here.

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