There’s a moment in every filmmaker’s journey when the dream begins to feel real. It’s no longer just an idea scribbled in a notebook or a late-night conversation with friends—it’s a production, a team, a budget, a risk. And yet, for all the attention given to cameras, scripts, and performances, there’s a quiet, often ignored foundation that determines whether that dream survives contact with reality: structure.
On today’s episode, we explore that unseen architecture with Nellie Akalp, an entrepreneur and legal expert who has spent decades helping businesses come into existence. What becomes immediately clear is that filmmaking, despite its creative soul, is deeply rooted in business decisions—decisions that many filmmakers delay, avoid, or misunderstand entirely.
Her journey into entrepreneurship didn’t begin with filmmaking, but the parallels are striking. Starting her first company in the early days of the internet, she experienced firsthand what it means to build something from nothing. That same principle applies to filmmakers. A film is not just a story—it’s an entity. A living, breathing structure that involves money, people, contracts, and liability. And without the proper framework, it can collapse before it ever reaches an audience.
One of the most eye-opening ideas from the conversation is deceptively simple: every film should be its own company.
“A movie… it’s like an entity of its own,” she explains, emphasizing that each project carries its own risks and responsibilities.
This isn’t just a technical detail—it’s a shift in mindset. When filmmakers treat a project casually, as something temporary or informal, they expose themselves to unnecessary risk. But when they treat it as a business, everything changes. Decisions become more deliberate. Protections are put in place. The project gains a kind of legitimacy that extends beyond the creative process.
This is where the concept of the LLC enters—not as a bureaucratic burden, but as a creative safeguard.
An LLC, as discussed in the episode, offers something filmmakers desperately need: separation. It creates a boundary between the project and the individual. If something goes wrong—financially, legally, or operationally—that boundary can mean the difference between a setback and a catastrophe. And in an industry where uncertainty is the norm, that kind of protection isn’t optional—it’s essential.
But what’s fascinating is how accessible this process has become. There’s a lingering belief that legal structures require expensive lawyers and complicated systems. Nellie dismantles that idea completely. Forming an LLC, maintaining it, even dissolving it after a project wraps—these are processes that can be handled efficiently with the right guidance. The real challenge isn’t complexity—it’s awareness.
And that’s where many filmmakers stumble.
They wait too long. They skip steps. They assume they’ll “figure it out later.” But later often comes with consequences—missed opportunities, legal headaches, or worse, financial exposure that could have been avoided with a few early decisions.
Another key insight from the conversation is the importance of compliance. Starting an LLC is only the beginning. Maintaining it—filing the right documents, managing changes, keeping everything aligned with state requirements—is what keeps the structure intact. It’s not glamorous work, but neither is editing at 3 a.m. or troubleshooting a broken shoot. It’s part of the craft, just on a different level.
And then there’s the broader lesson, one that extends beyond legalities into the philosophy of filmmaking itself.
Filmmakers often think of themselves purely as artists. But the reality is, the most successful ones understand they are also entrepreneurs. They build systems. They manage risk. They think strategically about how each project fits into a larger career. The LLC isn’t just a legal tool—it’s a symbol of that shift in identity.
To create is one thing. To sustain that creation over time—that’s something else entirely.
In the end, Nellie Akalp offers something invaluable: clarity. Not just about LLCs or business structures, but about the responsibility that comes with bringing a film into the world. Because every story deserves to be told—but it also deserves to be protected.
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Alex Ferrari 0:47
Enjoy today's episode with guest host Dave Bullis.
Dave Bullis 1:54
But on today's episode, we have a guest who's not a filmmaker, but it's a person that helps with LLCs. I know a lot of people have been sort of, you know, messaging me and asking if I could get somebody who's more legal centric on just for an episode or two, just someone to talk about, like, the legalities of some things creating LLCs, how do you stay safe when you're making contracts? So this is actually gonna be a pretty good episode, because she, not only, you know, does all the work on that. But she also is an entrepreneur, a small business expert, a speaker, and the CEO of CorpNet.com, with guest, Nellie Akalp. Hey, Nellie, thank you very much for joining us on the show.
Nellie Akalp 2:31
Hi, Dave. Thank you for having me.
Dave Bullis 2:33
Oh, you know, it's my pleasure. You know, you know, Nellie, you are the CEO of CorpNet, and you know, I wanted to, you know, inquire more about your background, because I, you know, I see that you always have sort of had this entrepreneurial spirit. So I wanted to ask you, Nellie, how did you get started, you know, down the road to becoming the CEO of CorpNet?
Nellie Akalp 2:51
Well, I've been in the industry for over 15 years, and got into entrepreneurship back in 1997 right out of law school when we found our first company and have been in the same industry ever since we grew our first company and sold it back in 2005 to a publicly traded company, and then took some time off focus on my family and kids, and decided I was too young, too passionate, too motivated, to take on an early retirement. So I got back into the legal document filing industry in 2009 and started my company, CorpNet.com, so, you know,
Dave Bullis 3:35
Obviously, you know, the landscape of entrepreneurship has changed since, you know, you first started in and I did believe you said 96 so you know, what are some of the things you know, the you've actually seen that have happened recently that sort of have helped or maybe even hindered entrepreneurship?
Nellie Akalp 3:47
Well, I think we're in a different climate than what it was like back in 1997 in 1997 when I started our first company, my corporation, it was at the birth of the Internet age. So it was really easy to, you know, put up a website and immediately start seeing orders come through online, even without having any sort of a payment, get gateway, whereas in 2009 when I launched CorpNet, the landscape, the economic climate, everything had changed, and now we're in this new age of social media. So in my opinion, there's a lot of difference between how I ran my business back in the 1990s versus now, and I have never worked harder in my life than I do today.
Dave Bullis 4:43
You know, it's funny because, you know, that's what a lot I've heard from a lot of other entrepreneurs. Because, you know, they usually quit their day jobs to, you know, you know, follow their passion, follow their their own desires, to build their own company. And they always, usually say, you know, we end up working even more, but they usually enjoy it a lot more. Because it's working for their own company, if you know what I mean,
Nellie Akalp 5:02
Absolutely, I think the greatest thing about being an entrepreneur is just being able to shoot as high as you want and really do it within your own climate, within your own creative box, without having any limitations, and being able to spread your wings as far and loud and high as you'd like to reach them. And I think that was one of the biggest realizations for me after selling my first company, because when we first sold, really there wasn't any notion of us wanting to leave, but after the sale, it really lost its culture, its entrepreneurial spirit, for us, and we thought it's perfect time for us to take some time off and really focus on growing ourselves as individuals, as entrepreneurs, focusing on my marriage with my husband and business partner of over 19 years now, and really focusing on our children, and had another kid on the way. And you know what? What it made me realize is that I really love being my own boss, and I really don't enjoy corporate America, and really like to start from scratch, create something out of nothing, and really create that culture that I envision wanting to be a part of on a daily basis.
Dave Bullis 6:29
Yeah, you know, I think a lot of people in America have become burned out on corporate America. I think they've really just gotten burned out on the inter office politics, you know, on some of the other practices in, you know, corporate America. And I think that's why you're seeing a lot of entrepreneurship now, of people sort of, you know, starting their own stores, like, you know, you mentioned you started near, you know, the.com boom. And when I look around today, I see a lot of businesses, you know, starting up. And, you know, there's not a brick and mortar store at all most of the time. You know, they're, a, sort of like an all, they're an online store. And then, if they're like a T Shirt Company, they then just farm it out to another company. And then, of course, they farm it out to another company that ships the the goods. So it's just, you know, I think this is we're going to that now where more people aren't going to have the traditional nine to five, it's going to be an entrepreneur job where, you know, you make your own business and you or even become a freelancer, you know, and you sort of start, and you sort of start getting your clients and building up from there.
Nellie Akalp 7:29
Yes, exactly. And frankly, I think in this day and age, it's really about the relationships and the reputation that you're creating out there, and you're setting out there for yourself, because to me, with this age that we're currently in, which is the social media digital era, it's really about that personal engagement and that client nurturing and cultivation, and the relationships that you build with the clients that's going to determine the success of your business in the long run.
Dave Bullis 8:06
That's very interesting as well, because, you know, as we're talking about entrepreneurship, you know, I actually, up until a few months ago, I actually worked full time at a college, and, you know, when we were actually talking about, you know, creating a new course all about business, you know, a lot of the professors were they there was nothing about this, about this new age, about digital and social media. And I, obviously, I said something about that, and we ended up not making the course. But it got me thinking, you know, I read a book a while ago about, you know, college and where it's at today. And this guy basically said he thinks that a lot of college degrees and a lot of people going out and gotten in the real world now, they don't have the necessary tools to succeed, rather than if you just fresh out of high school went right in doing what you want in entrepreneurship. You know, I kind of see his point. I mean, I don't know. Do you have a thought about that?
Nellie Akalp 9:03
Here's the thing is, I think, personally, in my opinion, I think anybody who wants to become a successful entrepreneur, and if they really want to go through entrepreneurship, you can straight out of high school go into it, but in my opinion, I think it's super important to have education under your belt and get a college degree. Why? Because I think all of those junctures in our lives are again, extra experience, and the courses that you're taking in college are geared towards somehow helping you becoming a better entrepreneur. For me, it has helped me a ton. I mean, I got my degree in business and marketing, and some of the classes that I took really help me in my daily operations of running and growing my business. I'm not saying that every class I took helped, but I think again, they're geared to be a tool and a resource to make you a better person in life and a better entrepreneur, if that's really the way you want to go, others may have a different outlook on it, and others may have a different opinion on it. You may have those people who really have that vision, passion and determination to really write out of high school. Want to start a business and again, by all means, but I think it's really important to always better yourself, and always, you know, improve yourself as a person and an entrepreneur, and if you choose not to go to college, then at least, you know, take some online courses to really, you know, strengthen your skills as as a business person, if that's the route you want to go,
Dave Bullis 11:12
Yeah, you know, there's a lot of online courses now, and I see it, you know, with the massive online open courses, you know, A course here on Udemy, on Skillshare, and I sometimes wonder, you know, if that's the future, if there would be, basically, you could just take what you want to take meaning, there would be, we would have to redefine what degrees are, but you know what I mean, like, so it wouldn't be you taking, like a traditional bachelor's degree, you know, course or curriculum you would have. You would take the courses that you were interested in, and they would either give you a certificate. What I've seen them do now is there's like a mini program at MIT, for instance, had their their micro Master's course, and basically it was like, you know, five or six online courses that you had to pass, and then you could, you would be getting this, what's called a Micro Masters, and it would be about a year's time, rather than the traditional, you know, two years for a master's degree. It's just, it's just an interesting, you know, time to be alive because of all these different changes. And, yeah, I always look to get different people's, you know, feedback about this, and we know what they're, you know, experiencing. And, you know, in the quote, unquote, real world.
Nellie Akalp 12:17
Well, here's, here's my take on it. I have four children, and two of them are teenagers, and obviously they see me on a daily basis in my work attire and just juggling and trying to balance life with work, and they see my successes, and obviously it's good enough reason for them to be all amped up and excited about, hey, I want to become successful like you, mom, and I want to go into business for myself. But the one thing that I always tell my kids is that, well, you know, success, it comes with experience, and my path for success was not only going and, you know, through high school getting good grades at listening to my teachers going and getting my four year college degree. But I also decided to go to law school, because for me, every you know, every ounce of education that I received, both through my college years and my graduate years, was again, experience underneath my belt, and this is from somebody who not only went to college and graduate school, but at the same time maintained the job through college and grad school, and every one of those experiences, in my opinion, has led and paved the way for me to be a better person, a better entrepreneur, and really has paved the way to my success today, because those were all experiences, and those interactions to me is what really led me to be who I am today. So I think the more you can expose yourself to tools and resources that can make you a better person, a more rounded person. By all means, go for it.
Dave Bullis 14:06
And you know, that's wanted to talk to you about, you know, is your successes, you know, because, you know, I see what you're doing at CorpNet, and it's just, you know, it's awesome. And you know, I wanted to sort of ask you now, you know, if we were going to, let's just say, you know, let's, let's just say, my friend and I just given an example, we're going to create a business. And, you know, we were going to come to something like, you know, comes, come to CorpNet, you know, what would you recommend? I mean, you know, should we, you know, you know. I mean, I know that's a very open ended question, so I should probably, probably, probably reword that. So, you know, let's just say we came and we wanted to ask you, you know, the question of LLC versus, like, s, Corp and stuff like that, you know, because, you know, with film projects, they're a little bit different than, say, some other entrepreneurships, because me, because, you know, a movie in itself is its own entity, yeah. So, you know, you know, you build upon that. So if I was going to come to you with like, a film project, you know. What were some of the things that you know, you would say, and you know, what would you recommend between an LLC or maybe even something different than an LLC? You know, I'm always interested to hear about.
Nellie Akalp 15:08
Let me back up for a minute and just give you a two second version of what Corp net does, and then I can provide you with the differences in the business structures and what we see and would recommend as a resource to your audience. Our company, CorpNet provides business filing services to startups, entrepreneurs, movie film producers, anybody who's looking to start a corporation or LLC or any other type of business filing, or they have an existing business and want us to help them maintain the business structure. We provide the services online in all 50 states. And really what makes us different from all the hundreds of 1000s of other competitors out there is our level of personal service and really the dedication we have to our clients from start to finish. So you can visit us online at www dot Corp net.com, we have live chat experts standing by at any time of the day, Monday through Fridays, from 6am until 5pm Pacific, Standard Time. But specifically, what makes us different is that we have a very, very large customer base of dealing with the entertainment industry and movie and film producers. So we probably have about 30% of our clients are in the film industry, and really we consider ourselves experts in the field of really guiding your audience as to what's necessary, what type of legal document filings are required, and to be able to assist them and guide them into getting what they need. So in answer to your question, really for an inter a person in the entertainment industry trying to set up a business structure for their movie or film. You can go either way, LLC or S corporation, because, as you mentioned, it Dave a movie, it's like an entity of its own. So one of the things that we recommend, because we deal with a ton of producers is that they come with several different movies. Well, each movie should have its own entity. And as far as it being an LLC or an S corporation, it really, really depends on the level of formality that you want to deal with. As far as that particular movie with the S corporation, there's stricter requirements as to who can qualify, whereas with an LLC, it's a much more lax type of entity. Anybody can be a member of an LLC, and it's much less formal as far as the filing requirements that are required to bring the LLC into existence. In addition it, the only piece of document that really controls the LLC is the operating agreement. So if you are trying to set up a movie and the people backing the movie Up, some are in state, some are out of state. The LLC may be the better way to go, because there are no requirements with the LLC that bar and out of state or to be a member of the LLC. But as far as the protection, as to which one will afford you greater liability protection, etc, both the S corp and the LLC offer liability protection. They both offer the the double taxation avoidance, whereby you would otherwise have to pay by forming a C corporation. So it really depends on, again, the level of formality that you want to deal with, whether all the shareholders or members of that particular film are, you know, residents of the US, are citizens of the US. If they are, then S corporation is a great way to go. Otherwise, the LLC is a great type of entity and the most favored within and amongst the film industry and the entertainment industry,
Dave Bullis 19:27
You know, because my experience, you know, with LLCs came when we had to start buying insurance because, you know, because when, when, when I was doing, you know, student films, you know, you know, most student films are just, you know, run and gun. They really don't have, you know, the doing it, you know, the proper way. But when I started, you know, getting into buying insurance, because we started doing, you know, riskier stuff, you know, whether you want to, you know, blow up a car or whatever the LLC, and then you you know, I would get the insurance, and then I could, you know, go from there. And, you know, that's was, you know, couple years ago, when I actually the last time I actually produced something, that's what we did. We actually went the LLC route.
Nellie Akalp 20:12
Yes, LLCs are really, really the favorite type of entity these days. Again, as I mentioned to you, it's great for a small business, and literally, anyone can be a member of an LLC. It's very, very informal. I refer to the LLC as the entity where you can have your cake and eat it too, because not only it provides you with all the liability and asset protection that you want in creating a business structure, but with limited formalities, with minimal formalities, so we can take care of it for you. It's offered in all 50 states, and again, we can take care of filing the LLC for you in any of the 50 states, and all of the paperwork required to keep the LLC in compliance throughout the years the LLC is in existence.
Dave Bullis 21:10
So, you know, Nellie, I wanted to ask, you know, if a filmmaker listening to this, you know, wanted to come to you about starting an LLC, is there anything they need to do beforehand, before coming to you to start the LLC.
Nellie Akalp 21:22
Actually, not really. I mean, typically, speaking for a film producer, we normally use the name of the movie as the name of the LLC, unless they have another, you know, particular name that they'd like to use, such as their holding company, etc. But really what we need before they come to us is just the name, the members of the people that are going to be as part of the LLC, the business address, and then we take care of the rest. I mean, really, we take the hassle out of the movie producer, doing all the legwork and bringing the LLC into existence, and then we become your partner throughout the lifetime of the LLC, and helping you keep the LLC in compliance.
Dave Bullis 22:06
So what are some of the things you know, like the LLC, you know, I've been in my experience with LLC, some of the things, like a tax ID number usually comes up. So, you know, what are the some of the things that about being in compliance? You know, that should, you know? You know, we concerned about to for the LLC to be in compliance.
Nellie Akalp 22:22
So with our company, CorpNet, we offer three different packages. And normally, what I would recommend to any movie film producer or somebody in the entertainment industry is our deluxe or all inclusive, complete package whereby one, you know, not only we take care of handling the name check, we submit the paperwork to the state for filing for the LLC. Once the LLC is filed, we actually obtain and assign the tax ID number to the LLC, which is really the social security number for the LLC, that particular LLC, where the IRS can identify all the transactions associated with that particular LLC, and then once the tax ID is signed and we have all the paperwork, including the operating agreement all drafted, we forward all the documentation to the particular client for that LLC, whereby It allows them to go open up the bank account and then start conducting business under the LLC, and then within a year or two, after depending on the state requirements, we can file all the Statement of Information, annual report filings, all the compliance filings that are due for that LLC within their state, in addition to, for example, if the general principle of the LLC likes to make any modifications to the LLC, add members, delete members, we can help them throughout the lifetime of the LLC with all those needs as well.
Dave Bullis 23:58
You know, that's something that you know, I've learned that you need on a film project is either so you know, somebody who knows the legalities of things. Because, you know, when you get stuff like the tax ID number, and you start getting, you know, into into sort of, like, you know, lots of legal documents, I've realized that you do need to have somebody who you can turn to and be like, what does this mean?
Nellie Akalp 24:16
Exactly, yes. And here's the great thing about our business, Dave, is that we assign you your own business filings expert, your own dedicated account rep, and we deal with a ton of high end movie producers who will call here. And, for example, deal with our senior filings expert, Amanda Barron, who is literally has been with the company since day one, is a walking encyclopedia when it comes to forming corporations and LLCs in all 50 states. But she's also our specialist in dealing with people who are within the entertainment industry. Street, and who'd like to form corporations or LLCs for their movies. So we will assign you not only to an expert, but an expert that has expertise in your field.
Dave Bullis 25:14
So, you know, Nellie I wanted to ask, you know, we were talking about entrepreneurship, you know. And I always wonder, you know, where crowdfunding sort of comes into this. Because, you know, with the equity based crowdfunding coming into law, you know, I always wonder, you know, where that would fall within the LLC, because now, you know, with people being able to sort of buy into the project, I wonder if does that add, you know, another dimension or two to your LLC.
Nellie Akalp 25:38
I mean, we deal with all sectors, all verticals. And really, we're here to service any type of clients filing needs that they require. So you know, in my opinion, whoever needs assistance with setting up a corporation or an LLC in whatever business vertical or sector they are, we can assist them.
Dave Bullis 26:00
That's good to know, because, you know, like I was saying before, you know, with, you know, having somebody in your corner, because I've been down that road before, too, and it's just, you know, I've never done equity based crowdfunding. So I was doing crowdfunding, it wasn't around. But, you know, even when you're doing perk crowdfunding, you know, I had a producer on there going, is this legal? Should we get a lawyer on here? And I said, no, no. I said, you know, it's through their own website, you know, and they explained, in their terms and agreements, you know, what is entailed with this crowdfunding campaign. It's perk based, you know, etc, etc. But, you know, I just wanted to ask because, you know, with with that becoming no be rolling out more and more, I just wanted to ask if that would, you know, entail something completely different on top of the LLC, no, not at all.
Nellie Akalp 26:39
And in fact, one of the notions and the lack of awareness out there that I wanted to address, which you just brought up, Dave, is the fact that there's still this lack of awareness that a corporation or LLC can be done on your own through a reputable on online company, such as the services we provide here at Corp net, and most often, people think that they do have to go to an attorney or an accountant to get these filings done. Again, remember, this company and our other companies was found by attorney, husband and wife team, so we've been through law school. We are within the industry. My husband is admitted to the California State Bar, and frankly, you do not need a lawyer to form a corporation or LLC and merely act as a Scribner to file documents with the state. You can take care of these filings and more with the help of a company such as ours for literally 1/10 an iota of the price, and really save that money that you would otherwise pay to a legal professional, and really use it when it comes handy, when you actually need the assistance of a lawyer. So we're very capable, and consider ourselves experts in the field, and can handle all these filings and more in all 50 states.
Dave Bullis 28:01
So you know, Nellie, that's good point you just brought up, and I wanted to ask, you know, when it does come to time to dissolve the LLC, like, if it was a film project, you know, we've shot it, you know, we've, we've, no it's in post production. It's being distributed, you know, and it's there, you know, this comes up point in time when you have to dissolve that LLC, you know, is that a complicated process?
Nellie Akalp 28:16
Not at all. In fact, again, we handled the solutions in all 50 states, and we can help you in dissolving the LLC at the end of the film project. It's just merely a document that needs to be filed within the state. And obviously, every state has different requirements. Some dissolutions are much more tedious and require much more filings than others. But again, we handle dissolution paperwork in all 50 states, and can help you in dissolving the LLC as well.
Dave Bullis 28:50
So now you know, now we know we've talked a lot about LLCs and, you know, and making companies everything like that. Is there any sort of challenges you see, you know, in your daily or weekly you know, business from from entrepreneurs or filmmakers. Is there any sort of mistake that you see a lot of that? Is it almost like a common mistake that you see that people make?
Nellie Akalp 29:08
I think oftentimes the most common mistakes that we see is, again, the filmmaker, the entrepreneur, not having the due diligence or the information necessary, paying tons of money where they otherwise they could have saved the money and come to a company such as ours to you know, form, the legal paperwork for them, oftentimes not having the correct information and filing the LLC in a state other than the state where the movie is being shot and not that, not doing their due diligence and making sure the name is available before forming the LLC, and then after the LLC is formed, not having the proper information to keep the LLC in compliance. So these are all mistakes that we've dealt with and oftentimes have to have fixed. So again, it could all be saved by having a reputable company take care of these filings for you and just calling us and having us do a free business consultation over the phone with you, or taking advantage of our live chat feature.
Dave Bullis 30:27
So, you know, Neil, you brought up a funny, you know, brought up something, and it reminds me of a funny story that happened to me. You know, I have a friend of mine who's an attorney on my, you know, on my Facebook friends list, and when I started my production company, she actually sent me an email telling me that it was, it was a bad idea. I mean, it was called Iron Fist films, my production company, and she thought it was too close to the Marvel superhero Iron Fist. And I said, But, but my Iron Fist is based off of Iron Fist training from Shaolin Kung Fu. That's, you know, 3000 years old, you know. I, you know. And I was trying to go back and forth with her about this. But, I mean, have you seen something like similar like that happen, where maybe a trademark was a little too close to home.
Nellie Akalp 31:04
Absolutely, we deal with that on a daily basis, because as part of our products and services, we offer trademark registration, search and filing services, and oftentimes people, as I mentioned to you, do not take the time to check on that name to make sure it's available before they start the business. And they don't take an additional they don't take the additional necessary steps to do a further research of the name to see whether anybody has common law rights to that name, whether that name has a potential trademark right to it. And again, we can help and assist, because we have all those tools on our website, such as the free name search, the free trademark search, that can provide you with the necessary information so that you are prevented on being on the wrong end of a trademark infringement suit, potentially,
Dave Bullis 32:01
You know, no another funny story. It's involves a friend of mine. He actually was a private investigator and lawyers, trademark lawyers were actually hide or hire him out to go and investigate some different trademarks. And he actually had one one time. These four guys started a company. They just started, you know, opened up a actual physical store, and the name of the store was called Apple. And literally, they did, I don't think they made an LLC, but they just started to come, you know, the business called Apple. They had a they had a logo outside their their logo also was, was, you know, a green apple. And when he went in there to talk to him about it, they actually were, like, dumb. They were pretending they were dumbfounded. Like, we don't know anything about this other Apple. What are you talking about? Needless to say, they actually decided to shut it down. When, finally, when the trademark lawyers were like, look, we're going to sue you if you don't stop.
Nellie Akalp 32:51
Yes, that will happen. And again, you can save yourself a ton of headache and time if you just go about and do your due diligence before you start printing out business cards and letterheads and start using that name in commerce.
Dave Bullis 33:07
Yeah, it's, uh, yeah, I concur, you know, that's when I used iron fist. I actually went through and I actually made sure it wasn't going to be a problem. But I know that, you know, when her and I were talking my attorney friend and I she, you know, brought that up just because she thought it was, you know, too close. But again, mine is based off something completely different, you know, that's a couple 1000 years old, so I don't really know if anybody could actually trademark that, although, you know, I hear Budweiser is changing the name of their beer to America, yeah,
Nellie Akalp 33:37
I heard that too.
Dave Bullis 33:38
I don't know how he would be able to trademark America, but
Nellie Akalp 33:43
That would be considered a generic term. So it's not trademarkable unless they do Budweiser slash America or something like that. I'm sure they have a great team of legal experts working on that as we speak,
Dave Bullis 33:59
You know, Nellie we've been talking for about, you know, 30 minutes. You know, I wanted to ask, you know, is there anything that we sort of haven't discussed yet, or anything you wanted to maybe mention that we didn't get a chance to?
Nellie Akalp 34:08
Actually, I think we've covered it all. And again, we'd love to assist any one of your audiences with any of their business filing needs, or helping them set up a corporation or LLC in all 50 states. You can visit us [email protected] if you have any questions, feel free to email us to [email protected] or just pick up the phone call, 1-888-449-2638, you can follow me on Twitter at CorpNet, Nellie, or follow the company at Twitter, at CorpNet, and then we're also on live chat Monday through Fridays, from 6am until 5pm Pacific, Standard Time,
Dave Bullis 34:53
And that's awesome. And everyone I will link to everything, all the links Nellie just said in the show notes as well. You know Nelly. I want to say thank you very much for coming on. Thanks. And you know my pleasure. And you know I want to wish you the best of luck with everything, with CorpNet, and you know for helping all the future entrepreneurs.
Nellie Akalp 35:08
Thank you so much. And thank you for the opportunity, Dave.
Dave Bullis 35:11
Oh, my pleasure. Take care Nellie.
Nellie Akalp 35:12
Take care.
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